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05-21-2017 , 10:59 PM
So basically MGM is saying they wish they had more hotel rooms, more food & beverage, more retail and more casino space. Must be a good problem to have.

You have to figure that eventually the demand at MGM tapers off a bit but really it's far and away both closest to DC and nicest property in the area so it could really be booming for quite a while.
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05-21-2017 , 11:22 PM
That article makes it sound like the decision would be coming from casino management, and not necessarily from Johnny. We all know poker is the black sheep in the casino family so I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see this move happen if they want to add more table games.
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05-22-2017 , 01:16 AM
Hey tournament guys -- quick question. How long does the daily 11AM $120 buyin tournament normally last? Might head over there instead of MD Live to play some, just curious how long to expect.
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05-22-2017 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by psujohn
Plenty of nitty old ladies back here where I can seek my revenge by proxy.



I play 1/3. I typically buy $400 red. You want me to carry around 80 chips? I could carry black or green sure but the tables are always short on red as it is. I'd say I make change for someone at least twice in an average session.



It's not impossible or even difficult to staff the cage at a level where there will never be much of a line.



So the dealer has to pause and sell the new guy $100 in green - making the shortage of red on the table worse - and notify everyone that the guy is $300 behind or whatever. Which opens all the problems that come with a player playing behind.
I played at lot at the Bellagio back in the day and the floor would not seat you if you didn't have your chips. If they knew you and they knew they were getting tipped they would seat you and get your chips for you. But they never really had chip runners that did anything but fill the dealers racks so they could make change for rake.
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05-22-2017 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pk_nuts
I played at lot at the Bellagio back in the day and the floor would not seat you if you didn't have your chips. If they knew you and they knew they were getting tipped they would seat you and get your chips for you. But they never really had chip runners that did anything but fill the dealers racks so they could make change for rake.


As of at least last summer the floors were running chips for everyone who needed it when sitting


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05-22-2017 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dcmidnight
Interesting reading LVA this morning, stated pretty clearly that the MGM NH poker room was moving upstairs.

Didn't JG adamantly state - a while ago - that this wasn't happening?
He's said exactly nothing about it and his silence is deafening. I suppose/hope that means he knows it's going to happen and he's still trying to fight it. The room being moved upstairs would be awful.
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05-22-2017 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SoulVision
Hey tournament guys -- quick question. How long does the daily 11AM $120 buyin tournament normally last? Might head over there instead of MD Live to play some, just curious how long to expect.
I haven't played any of them but I'm usually there on Wed afternoon/evening. They've normally reached the FT by about 4 pm or so and are finished before 7 pm if my memory serves me correctly.
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05-22-2017 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Havax
He's said exactly nothing about it and his silence is deafening. I suppose/hope that means he knows it's going to happen and he's still trying to fight it. The room being moved upstairs would be awful.
We have not made a decision to move the poker room upstairs at this point. We ARE exploring every opportunity to make more room for the property. rest assured, if we do move the room, it will be a positive thing, not a negative one...
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05-22-2017 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
We have not made a decision to move the poker room upstairs at this point. We ARE exploring every opportunity to make more room for the property. rest assured, if we do move the room, it will be a positive thing, not a negative one...
Wait.. thought the casino was only allowed x number of slots and y number of table games?
Did MGM get the gaming commission to up that #?

Or did the architect screw up and not design the casino with eough space to accommodate the max #, and MGM is runninging below max now?
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05-22-2017 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
Wait.. thought the casino was only allowed x number of slots and y number of table games?
Did MGM get the gaming commission to up that #?

Or did the architect not design the casino with enough space to accommodate the max #, and MGM is running below max now?
I cant speak to any of those issues...
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05-22-2017 , 07:34 PM
Just about every aspect of the property appears to be at or over capacity on weekend nights. Attempting to self park is an adventure. It will be interesting to see how mgm adjusts.

Funny how some dealers are certain a move upstairs is 100% happening.
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05-22-2017 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
Wait.. thought the casino was only allowed x number of slots and y number of table games?
Did MGM get the gaming commission to up that #?

Or did the architect screw up and not design the casino with eough space to accommodate the max #, and MGM is runninging below max now?
There are places in the slots where there is clearly more room to move around than there used to be a few months ago. If I had to guess I'd say they packed them way too close to each other at first, maybe had to spread them out and had to remove machines. Pure guess on my part but there were definitely areas that seemed like there was no way they were up to fire code.

I do know that MGMNH opened with a few hundred machines less than they were approved for. At the time IIRC they said they wanted to put more table games in. If they are seeing an increased demand for slots now, there's a chance they have a few hundred to play with.

I'm certain to be in the minority here but I think that a new room wouldn't be the end of the world and could actually be pretty good depending on the layout. Lots of minor issues that might be easily solved.
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05-22-2017 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sai1b0ats
Just about every aspect of the property appears to be at or over capacity on weekend nights. Attempting to self park is an adventure. It will be interesting to see how mgm adjusts.

Funny how some dealers are certain a move upstairs is 100% happening.
Charging for self parking will really help in this regard IMO.
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05-22-2017 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by psujohn
So the dealer has to pause and sell the new guy $100 in green - making the shortage of red on the table worse - and notify everyone that the guy is $300 behind or whatever. Which opens all the problems that come with a player playing behind.
shortage of reds is a good thing. the fish call so much more easily with greens. Its one of the reasons the casino is so great.

I agree anyway though, im not carrying 20 greens, and carrying 5 blacks solves basically nothing because id end up getting colored up anyway.
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05-23-2017 , 09:10 PM
is there anyway to get a poker room rate for the hotel either as you book hotel now or after you have put in some hours at the table?
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05-23-2017 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sirluckbox
is there anyway to get a poker room rate for the hotel either as you book hotel now or after you have put in some hours at the table?
Unfortunately, there is no poker rate. We have a very limited number of rooms and are consistently at high occupancy.
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05-23-2017 , 11:21 PM
Ever since my overlong rant a few weeks ago regarding reduced rake, I have noticed a tangible improvement. I've had zero issues getting a request approved in a timely manner. I don't know if it's just lucky variance or if it means there have been some policy changes to improve the process and make it more fair for the players. If it's the latter, I just want to give a big thank you to Johnny and the rest of the team for once again taking feedback from the community (even obnoxious feedback like mine) and making MGM an even better place to play poker.
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05-24-2017 , 01:15 PM
Quick question: Is there discounted valet parking available? Or is it always going to be $25 if you want to valet? Thanks in advance...
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05-24-2017 , 03:48 PM
+1 on reduced rake improvement whether real or imagined.

Upstairs poker room - ie away from the bacc pits - is a disaster obv. But nothing that can be done other than whine I guess!
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05-24-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dudebroIII
+1 on reduced rake improvement whether real or imagined.

Upstairs poker room - ie away from the bacc pits - is a disaster obv. But nothing that can be done other than whine I guess!
Guys that want to find the room will find the room. This idea that drunk whales leave a good run in the pits and want to spew so bad that they positively have to stumble into a nearby poker room and sit down for a grind session - but only if its right nearby - has to be one of the most overrated myths in the 25 or so years I've been playing. Guys that really want to spew will find the room.

IMO it would be worth it if JG is allowed to really build a room. Less so if its stuffed into a repurposed conference/banquet room of some kind.
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05-25-2017 , 05:31 AM
I am more concerned about starbucks and the food court being further away.
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05-25-2017 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dudebroIII
+1 on reduced rake improvement whether real or imagined.

Upstairs poker room - ie away from the bacc pits - is a disaster obv. But nothing that can be done other than whine I guess!
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Originally Posted by dcmidnight
Guys that want to find the room will find the room. This idea that drunk whales leave a good run in the pits and want to spew so bad that they positively have to stumble into a nearby poker room and sit down for a grind session - but only if its right nearby - has to be one of the most overrated myths in the 25 or so years I've been playing. Guys that really want to spew will find the room.

IMO it would be worth it if JG is allowed to really build a room. Less so if its stuffed into a repurposed conference/banquet room of some kind.
Poker room upstairs away from the main gaming floor really worked out for Revel, didn't it?

It's a different market, sure, I get that. But I still can't help feel that the "out of sight, out of mind" saying would still apply to some people. If I was visiting the property for the first time and looking to play poker, I may just end up at at blackjack table if I take a lap around the entire casino and don't see the poker room.
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05-25-2017 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by stu17
Poker room upstairs away from the main gaming floor really worked out for Revel, didn't it?



It's a different market, sure, I get that. But I still can't help feel that the "out of sight, out of mind" saying would still apply to some people. If I was visiting the property for the first time and looking to play poker, I may just end up at at blackjack table if I take a lap around the entire casino and don't see the poker room.


Or the old Showboat room when it was upstairs.


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05-25-2017 , 10:31 AM
Wasn't Borgata main room downstairs at one time, separated from the casino floor? IIRC, they had no problems with volume...
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05-25-2017 , 10:33 AM
Seminole Hard Rock in Tampa has their poker room 2 escalators removed from the rest of the casino, and it's always packed.
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