The room was very well run today and ready to handle the holiday crowds. However, having only one cashier and nobody in the vestibule area at 8:15pm when tables are breaking and people are heading out is bad. I know this isn't a poker room management issue but it definitely is poor planning on somebody's part.

I think AA was actually complaining about the mix needing more PLO tables and less 1/3. Just a gut feeling but I think the 1/3 players come out earlier than the PLO and its tough to break a full table just to get a different game going on it.

Canceling the tourney and going full spread early was surely a great move but there were still 30+ on the 1/3 when I looked at 12:30 or so so I went the other direction. Probably shoulda sucked it up and went to MGM anyway.

Cancelling the tourny was the right move, considering the traffic on a holiday, JG owes me a dinner for opening that Pandora's box.

PSU the lists were dissipated pretty quickly. So you should have come.

Also, a tweety bird told me that we will be hearing about exciting new promotions soon.

I hope that bird is early to work today and will share some details.

That little bird has been in the office all morning working on it. Info will be on Bravo and in the poker room later this afternoon.

JG, you know what they say, "Early Bird gets the Worm!"

We are all ears!

JG we need to do something about the table numbers!

I understand the aesthetics, may be the designers have an idea to display it without hurting the same.

Johnny I heard there was going to be a tournament series in April. Can you confirm or deny this?

Also very curious thoughts on the VIP chair idea as it is very good for all parties involved, and if it's something you are into would be nice to implement it sooner rather than later

Thanks

Say you add a 10th seat for Mr Big.
Ten minutes later Joe Nebbish busts out of the game.
Do you keep the table 10 handed and call the next player on the List (or the next Mr Big) or do you remove the chair and go back to 9 handed?

It's only the fear of paying for parking that keeps me from declaring MGM my regular room and other places as occasional spots. Something about paying for parking rubs me wrong - I think it's called living in the suburbs. If parking was charged but comped after X hours play it would be a minor inconvenience. If I have to actually pull $15 out of my pocket I'm not going to be happy.

If you declare Mr. Big is a vip and gets to skip the list and have a chair added ..... later on when there is the need for a ruling and the floor make a ruling in favor of Mr. Big, why should I as Mr. Small have any confidence that the ruling wasn't made because Mr. Big is a VIP and they want him to stay in the game?

Is anyone else asking for this?

Also, will there be some sort of committee that approves meets the criterion to be whales VIPs?

I have always seen it done is the game would stay 10 handed until "Mr Big" leaves the game or it is his turn on the list. Then it would go back to 9

Also yes basically everyone is asking for it, that's why I mentioned a petition.

The criteria would be pre approved and could even be made up by Johnny and his staff or Johnny and a spokesperson from the games

Let's look at this from an economic point of view which is the main interest of the casino.

They mainly have poker to attract table game players and derive a very small portion of profits from poker.

They aren't incentivized to pad the professionals pockets by getting the player in the game when he's just going to go play table games or lose less at a lower stake open seat saving more for table games.

The only incentive I can see is competing with another casino who offers this but MGM has all the high stakes action.

The only casino I have seen do anything like this is the Rio during the series and for good reason. Most of the whales are staying at MGM properties and the Rio is motivated to keep them around due to competition.

Because the floor is there to make fair rulings and follow a set of rules that are already written and in place. A floor also won't risk being written up to make a clearly wrong ruling

Also the higher stakes games basically run themselves. 98% of the community is very courteous and not there to try and screw someone over no matter who you are

Every MGM property in vegas does this not just Rio. Also they are incentivized to keep whales happy. Some whales come specifically to play poker, If they can't get in a game they will leave. If they get in a game often times they walk multiple times during session and play BJ / Bac

Yes this is also good for the regs who play in the game. But it is not the main reason to do it.

Once again, Vegas, competition

I imagine people who don't play the big games will have a very skewed view on this. Fwiw, I think we'd generally appreciate the option in the big limit game.

Written up by who? the management who put in place the rule favoring the VIP?

I'm not worried about a rogue floorperson ... I'm worried about the instititionalized favortism.


I get it. You don't care if I walk because I don;t play in the big game.

But if I know that favoritsim is going on in the big game I can have no confidence in the management in any game.

Oh and if I know that is going on and your whales Significant other is sitting in my small game .... don't you think I would have the same concerns.

In poker the house is supposed to be neutral. If they violate that neutrality once no one can have confidence in that nuetrality thereafter.

It doesnt matter where you compare it to and if there is competition or not.

To save thread from getting totally derailed please only comment on this suggestion further if you play in the games in question.

If you have questions about how the VIP chair would work or legitimate concerns feel free to PM me. Thanks guys

I have never once seen a 10th chair added in Bellagio, though I will grant that I am a few times a year visitor and I generally play in mid-stakes not high stakes. Still, I've never seen it up in the high-stakes area when playing there or walking through. Possibly it happens in BR, but when there's a game going there it's usually short handed IME.

(I have seen it added at CAZ, but only late night when a short handed table breaks and there's only 1 table left, or when there was a mistake made in seating a player. It had nothing to do with whales.)

I'm not dismissing the idea out of hand, and understand that it may well be in the interest of the house to do so to keep their whales happy. But the fact that it's the reg players who keep asking for it here belies your insistence that you're not asking for it because of your own interest primarily.

Uh, nice try. You are welcome to ask people to PM you, and I appreciate the general desire not to derail the thread, but you don't get to decide what is and isn't appropriate commentary in this thread I'm afraid, particularly when just trying to silence the people who disagree with you.

I will concede that high stakes games run according to their own customs at times, though, and ask all the thread participants to at least be cognizant of that.

i am not asking to silence people who disagree, i am trying to silence people who have no clue what they are talking about because they play lower games this doesn't happen in....fwiw this regularly happens at 10-20nl at bellagio (upstairs not BR)

I have also said this is in everyones interest, I am not trying to pretend it isnt good for the players. It is fairly obvious it is, and in the first post I said it rewards regs who constantly keep the games going.

If anyone has reasonable negative points I encourage them to post them, but questions about how it work do not need to be posted in the thread

Possible. But we have bigger fish to fry right now....

Johnny,

Question:

By definition, reduced take is still taking a jackpot drop from the pot.

Ergo, why would the be excluded from eligibility for jackpot sponsored promotions?

Is there a citation that enables this?


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Promotion info is now posted on Bravo poker app. Flyers will be available in the poker room later this evening. Info will also be posted on the MGM national Harbor website closer to the end of the month.