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01-27-2017 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
Tacky tin cans.. pssssh.... Those, sir, are high-grade polished stainless steel luxury drink holders....
that u cant see thru...
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01-27-2017 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
that u cant see thru...
This may be hard to imagine, but when you put a coffee cup into a clear cup holder you no longer can see through to the other side.

While I didn't like it at first, I've grown to like these cup holders better than ones built in to the rail. They stay cleaner and take up no room if you're not using one. I've seen chips being hidden behind them a few times but just be aware and ask for chips to be made visible and it's a non-issue.
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01-27-2017 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrad
This may be hard to imagine, but when you put a coffee cup into a clear cup holder you no longer can see through to the other side.

While I didn't like it at first, I've grown to like these cup holders better than ones built in to the rail. They stay cleaner and take up no room if you're not using one. I've seen chips being hidden behind them a few times but just be aware and ask for chips to be made visible and it's a non-issue.
how about:
clear plastic cup holders
clear plastic cups
soda dispenser that dispenses only clear liquid: sprite, crystal Pepsi, water, etc
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01-27-2017 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrad
This may be hard to imagine, but when you put a coffee cup into a clear cup holder you no longer can see through to the other side.

While I didn't like it at first, I've grown to like these cup holders better than ones built in to the rail. They stay cleaner and take up no room if you're not using one. I've seen chips being hidden behind them a few times but just be aware and ask for chips to be made visible and it's a non-issue.

Exactly.. cant believe we are still talking about the cup holders. Lets talk about real things going on. I for one have no qualms and love this place. The action is splendid and couldn't be happier. I've also been a VA poker player for about my whole life, so having the freakin MGM next to my house is something kids only dream about.
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01-27-2017 , 09:37 PM
I'd like a cup of coffee with two creams, two sugars… and clear, please.


--klez
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01-27-2017 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by klezmaniac
I'd like a cup of coffee with two creams, two sugars… and clear, please.


--klez
No problem sir... we have a free coffee station with all the goodies you want.
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01-28-2017 , 12:35 AM
11:30pm fri nite.
bravo says all 39 tables in use AND 110 players on the 1/3 list?!?!

are the games *THAT* juicy?!?!
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01-28-2017 , 04:16 AM
So, ive heard rumors the poker room is moving upstairs at some point? say it isnt so! I assume the regs are complaining about the slot machine noise? i agree its annoying but well worth the annoyance to be readily accessable to other gamblers. I can say that having a hidden away poker room hurts the action, because no one goes there unless they are specifically looking to play poker. Active pit right out front surely gets more players in, and also gets more winning poker players to dump some winnings back to the casino on the way out.

I think a partial wall on the slot side could reduce the noise, thinking something similar to what Aria has. (the have sort of decorations along the sides, but its still open and you can see in)

I think of this thread as a place to offer constructive criticism, so of course the (sometimes minority) who doesnt like something about the room are the ones who post on here, so I guess ill list a few things about the room I like and hope dont change (as compared to others in the thread)

-I like the room location (as described above)

-i like the temperature (some said its too cold, if anything it may be a bit too hot presumably because the temp was moved up to accomodate the complaints, id rather need a jacket than be hot without one but the temp is currently comfortable)

-I LOVE the buyin structure. $100-500 lowest stakes is amazing. SO many more fish buy in for 200-300 than at 100-300, I think the high max makes $100 just seem too small (while still letting the shortstack fish play for $100).

-using $25 chips at 1/3 is awesome! Normally i hate $25 chips, i end up with a few floating around my red chips, and i never wanna bet them because the fish tend to deem it some sort of tell which cause them to react unpredictably... But here its great because so many are being used, the basiclaly become the primary chip. Betting $200+ doesnt scare the fish into folding like it does with 2 stacks of reds. I think this is the #1 difference that is driving the action. so many more huge bad bluffs, so many more monster hero calls and bad ships, its so good. It also allows buyins at the table more easily.

-i dont mind the cups. I rarely drink anything at the table, so the arm rests are more comfortable. cupholders are a bit annoying, i wish people would just put their cups on the tables behind them, but whatever, i can ask what someone's stack size is if i dont already know.

-I like the hoodie sunglasses rule, although doesnt seem fully enforced yet.
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01-28-2017 , 10:35 AM
What is the hoodie sunglasses rule? I wore sunglasses with a baseball cap for a little bit not problems. Though I took off the baseball cap pretty quickly.

MGM had a huge problem last night with filling up the tables. Starting around 5 pm and going until I left at 1 am this morning, seats at my PLO table went empty for half an hour while they went through the list calling people, according to my tablemates giving them five minutes each before continuing down. Even though there wer e 15 -20 on lots of lists and many of the people had left.

I strongly encourage them to give a one minute (or immediate) reponse to the list when it's so busy and seats are empty. I don't mind, in fact I prefer playing PLO 6 - 8 handed, but it got so crowded with people standing around waiting for tables that it was hard to walk anywhere.

That said, MGM is by far the nicest poker room I have ever set foot in. The dealers are universally very friendly. Some of them are obviously inexperienced, which is to be expected. The chips seem clean! The cup holders are better than the decades old plastic versions I have seen elsewhere and look clean, so they're fine. There are side tables available with cup holders, not sure if you must eat to get one.

I only played at one table, and I wasn't the fish at the table. Not many players I would call 'bad', maybe 3 out of 20. But enough with a variety of playing styles that I find exploitable that I had a profitable evening. And I SUCK at poker.

I would not go there at least on Friday or Saturday nights because you'll wait an hour or three while watching empty seats go unfilled.

I suggest MGM get away from a laptop with a 14" screen IRC and move to a full keyboard, mouse, and at least a 24" monitor which are very cheap. At the very least, plug a USB mouse into the laptop. Much easier to deal with a database that spills over the screen when one is not using a trackpad. And seriously, that little stand is a joke. Give the people room to work! I looks unprofessional and stands in contrast to the quality of the place as a whole.

IF you go on a weekend I strongly suggest you get there before two pm. Everyone that sat after that said they'd been waiting 2 hours or more.
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01-28-2017 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomark
So, ive heard rumors the poker room is moving upstairs at some point? say it isnt so! I assume the regs are complaining about the slot machine noise?
The room hasn't even been open two months how can there be "regs" that are that irritated yet? Actually, dont answer that.

I just cant see moving the room upstairs, it makes no sense given that they designed this space to be a poker room. It makes far more sense to take out the slots/machines between there and the bathrooms and put in another dozen tables if they wanted to.

I do think it would be cool if they did some sort of fake/partial wall installation in a couple sections, that would be really nice.
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01-28-2017 , 02:24 PM
The room has been open less than 2 months. I would take any rumors of it being expanded/moved with a giant grain of salt.

A salt lick might be more appropriate.


--klez
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01-28-2017 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by klezmaniac
The room has been open less than 2 months. I would take any rumors of it being expanded/moved with a giant grain of salt.

A salt lick might be more appropriate.


--klez
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01-28-2017 , 02:57 PM
Room offers seemed to have really opened up (5/10+) poker room is an out of the park home run, wonder if the rest of the property is not at projections?
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01-28-2017 , 05:31 PM
Johnny, sorry if this has been already been asked!

1. I was playing 10/25 PLO and a situation occurred where 4 players went all in pre-flop. As told we can only run the board once when action is multi-way. One player ended up winning all of the pot and the game broke shortly after.

Is any action being taken to change this ruling - To allow run it twice multi-way? Some players have argued it's always multi-way pre-flop so why allow it pre-flop?

2. This 1 flop 2 turn 2 rivers overall is complete disaster. There is enough cards in a deck to run 2 full boards in PLO. I have ran 2 full boards playing PLO in borgata, parx, and vegas casinos so I don't understand the reasoning behind this.



I know you're very busy and thank you in advance.
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01-28-2017 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gruziaboy92

Johnny, sorry if this has been already been asked!
Maryland Gaming rules on running it twice. Casinos have no choice.
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01-28-2017 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
MGM had a huge problem last night with filling up the tables. Starting around 5 pm and going until I left at 1 am this morning, seats at my PLO table went empty for half an hour while they went through the list calling people, according to my tablemates giving them five minutes each before continuing down. Even though there wer e 15 -20 on lots of lists and many of the people had left.

I only played at one table, and I wasn't the fish at the table. Not many players I would call 'bad', maybe 3 out of 20. But enough with a variety of playing styles that I find exploitable that I had a profitable evening. And I SUCK at poker.
+1 on this. Table 30, right? I was there as well for a good portion of the evening. Sadly, I was the fish.

It was kind of crazy how long the seats stayed open. We had one seat open for at least 45 minutes before a take-charge dealer got it filled. The entire time the seat was open, the list was at least 18 deep, and sometimes 24 deep. This is with two tables running. We were all listening and they simply weren't calling names.

When the take-charge dealer took charge, she managed to get the situation fixed pretty fast.

[Edit] Most dealers were at least competent. There were also 1 or 2 pretty bad ones, who I wouldn't name in a thread. Might send JG a PM about one of the bad ones, she was really really bad and should not be a dealer anywhere.


- Everything is still clean and in excellent condition.
- Dealers & floors were mostly competent, with a couple of standouts.
- Poker cage had more than one person this time, made things a lot faster.
- Not a coffee drinker, but the station seemed much appreciated.
- Rules were enforced pretty well overall, though not aggressively.
- 75%+ of dealers knew exactly how much was in the pot at all times.
- Timely fills are still an issue at PLO. Players sold to players multiple times.
- The fill issue is funny/sad, given PLO is literally right next to the cage.

Good experience overall for the third visit. Glad to see that this room is being run so well and that management takes feedback into account and incorporates it when it makes sense to do so.

Last edited by dinesh; 01-28-2017 at 10:05 PM.
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01-28-2017 , 07:06 PM
No idea why table 30 is the red headed step child but filling empty PLO seats is always an issue there. I asked the fill question a few pages back but I have no idea why there isnt a simpler solution to this. When a PLO game first opens - why cant the floor/dealer/whoever figure out a *real* full for the tray. Not filling 4.5 of the 6 sleeves/stacks with whites.
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01-28-2017 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dcmidnight
No idea why table 30 is the red headed step child but filling empty PLO seats is always an issue there. I asked the fill question a few pages back but I have no idea why there isnt a simpler solution to this. When a PLO game first opens - why cant the floor/dealer/whoever figure out a *real* full for the tray. Not filling 4.5 of the 6 sleeves/stacks with whites.
Completely agree with filling empty seats at the tables closest to the cage. As for the rack, 4 of the sleeves of white is only $200. Since they only allow $1500 in the rack total, that only leaves about $200 in red and $1100 in green. Adding $200 more in red/green won't help much and would only cause the whites needing to be filled more often since they are used up fast enough for rake and dealer/waitress tips.

Best solution IMO would be have tables designated for higher games (which it seems is the case with tables 30-39) and allow a higher amount in the dealer tray for these tables. Maybe that's not allowed, but I think it would help.
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01-28-2017 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2+3
Completely agree with filling empty seats at the tables closest to the cage. As for the rack, 4 of the sleeves of white is only $200. Since they only allow $1500 in the rack total, that only leaves about $200 in red and $1100 in green. Adding $200 more in red/green won't help much and would only cause the whites needing to be filled more often since they are used up fast enough for rake and dealer/waitress tips.

Best solution IMO would be have tables designated for higher games (which it seems is the case with tables 30-39) and allow a higher amount in the dealer tray for these tables. Maybe that's not allowed, but I think it would help.
I'd say we lost almost an hour or so over the course of a ten hour session while dealers called for help to refill the chip thingy. Some of that will be lost anyway, but two minutes lost every half hour at a minimum was my experience yesterday.
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01-28-2017 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
I strongly encourage them to give a one minute (or immediate) reponse to the list when it's so busy and seats are empty.

this assumes that everybody who is on the list is standing close enough to the room/podium area to hear their names being called and be able to checkin within one minute

Since they have the bravo text messaging feature I am the casino wants people to walk around and gamble etc. One minute is absurd, because then the brush has to deal with someone who had just missed their call, wants to go to the top of the list, etc. etc.
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01-28-2017 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
soda dispenser that dispenses only clear liquid: sprite, crystal Pepsi, water, etc
A soda dispenser would actually be really cool.
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01-28-2017 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gruziaboy92
Johnny, sorry if this has been already been asked!

1. I was playing 10/25 PLO and a situation occurred where 4 players went all in pre-flop. As told we can only run the board once when action is multi-way. One player ended up winning all of the pot and the game broke shortly after.

Is any action being taken to change this ruling - To allow run it twice multi-way? Some players have argued it's always multi-way pre-flop so why allow it pre-flop?

2. This 1 flop 2 turn 2 rivers overall is complete disaster. There is enough cards in a deck to run 2 full boards in PLO. I have ran 2 full boards playing PLO in borgata, parx, and vegas casinos so I don't understand the reasoning behind this.



I know you're very busy and thank you in advance.
As mentioned, this is a state regulation. We can petition to change it, but it's a long process.
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01-28-2017 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dcmidnight
No idea why table 30 is the red headed step child but filling empty PLO seats is always an issue there. I asked the fill question a few pages back but I have no idea why there isnt a simpler solution to this. When a PLO game first opens - why cant the floor/dealer/whoever figure out a *real* full for the tray. Not filling 4.5 of the 6 sleeves/stacks with whites.
The real issue is that we spread several different games of PLO (1/2, 1/2 5 Card, and 1/2 Big O). Most of the players come in and want to be put on all Omaha lists. The lists are not as live as they look. We are making some changes in that area to address that specific issue.
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01-28-2017 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 2+3
Completely agree with filling empty seats at the tables closest to the cage. As for the rack, 4 of the sleeves of white is only $200. Since they only allow $1500 in the rack total, that only leaves about $200 in red and $1100 in green. Adding $200 more in red/green won't help much and would only cause the whites needing to be filled more often since they are used up fast enough for rake and dealer/waitress tips.

Best solution IMO would be have tables designated for higher games (which it seems is the case with tables 30-39) and allow a higher amount in the dealer tray for these tables. Maybe that's not allowed, but I think it would help.
Considering making the banks larger...
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01-28-2017 , 09:49 PM
Johnny,

We're sitting right outside the office, the table card has been out for a down, the list is 34 deep...


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