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Old 05-21-2020, 04:19 PM   #6951
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

The best procedure is substituting the hand sanitizer for the dealer button
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:20 AM   #6952
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Voting for mask wearing to be optional.
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:43 AM   #6953
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Voting for mask wearing to be optional.
Voting for mask wearing to be required.

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Old 05-22-2020, 07:54 AM   #6954
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I will be wearing a mask whether or not it is required. But I strongly encourage MGM to require them and provide them for those who do not have one. A large portion of the player pool is made up of retirees at higher risk of death if they contract the virus; we should make the poker room a safe(r) place for them to pass the time if they so choose.

And to appeal to the baser motives: retirees are some of the softest targets, so you have an economic interest in getting them to the poker room.

And MGM's financial self-interest is tied up in all this. If it does not require masks and someone becomes infected/traced to MGM, MGM could be liable for not adhering to strict containment measures. The fact that other recently-opened casinos are requiring masks is certainly a signal that the industry standard of care is to require masks and not following their lead would indicate a breach of duty.

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Old 05-22-2020, 08:08 PM   #6955
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I will be wearing a mask whether or not it is required. But I strongly encourage MGM to require them and provide them for those who do not have one. A large portion of the player pool is made up of retirees at higher risk of death if they contract the virus; we should make the poker room a safe(r) place for them to pass the time if they so choose.

And to appeal to the baser motives: retirees are some of the softest targets, so you have an economic interest in getting them to the poker room.


And MGM's financial self-interest is tied up in all this. If it does not require masks and someone becomes infected/traced to MGM, MGM could be liable for not adhering to strict containment measures. The fact that other recently-opened casinos are requiring masks is certainly a signal that the industry standard of care is to require masks and not following their lead would indicate a breach of duty.
Plus, keeping them alive keeps their money in play.
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:01 PM   #6956
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

Final warning. Keep this thread specific to casino information. No coronavirus morality arguments, no PSAs, etc. We have 2 coronavirus threads in CCP (1 poker-related, 1 other), use those. I'm going to start issuing temp-bans for further violations. This applies to everyone, but specifically DCJ, Dumbo, and bruce. And if you have a problem with this, take it to the Moderation Discussion thread in CCP, no comments on it here.

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Old 05-23-2020, 08:02 AM   #6957
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Here's the Palm Beach Kennel Club procedures. They look reasonable to me, what do you all think if it was implemented at MGM NH?

Games will be played with a designated number of players to be determined by management
The waiting area will not be utilized. Players will be seated upon arrival and games will commence when the designated number of players is achieved
Players will not be granted table transfers. The table you are seated will be your table for the duration of the day
Players will be required to purchase their initial and buy ins at the cage
Dealers will not rotate from table to table. Dealers will be assigned to one table only
Chips will be isolated to a specific table. Once chips have been introduced to a game, they can only exit in the following manners: Drop Boxes, Dealer tip boxes, Cashed out at the cashier
Once chips are removed from play, they will not be recirculated until after they are sanitized
Paper cards will be utilized and discarded at regular intervals
Eating food at the tables will be prohibited
Drinks will be served with tabletop cup holders; cup holders will be sanitized prior to being issued to a new customer
Hand sanitizer will be used in lieu of a dealer button. When a player has the sanitizer, they are encouraged to use it
Dealers will sanitize their hands after arriving at the table
All players will be required to sanitize their hands upon initially or subsequently arriving at the table"
Players will not be granted table transfers. The table you are seated will be your table for the duration of the day

Dealers will not rotate from table to table. Dealers will be assigned to one table only

So if you get a bad/slow dealer you have to leave for an hour then come back to try to get a better table?
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:12 AM   #6958
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Players will not be granted table transfers. The table you are seated will be your table for the duration of the day

Dealers will not rotate from table to table. Dealers will be assigned to one table only

So if you get a bad/slow dealer you have to leave for an hour then come back to try to get a better table?
Out of all the casinos that decided to open recently in Florida, this one one has by far the most lax safety standards. (And apparently the only one that publicly requires a liability waiver upon entering...coincidence?) It is not a very good model for other casinos, including ours. Among other noticeable failings, they don't require masks, no plexiglass barriers (an eye-sore, but apparently effective since many other casinos have them), and no enforcement of 4- and 5-max games. As one poster commented in another thread, "this can't end well."
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:27 PM   #6959
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Businesses having many of something completely unproven does not make the “apparently effective”. We have no evidence plexiglass does anything at a poker table. Not because it won’t work but simply because we have zero evidence, none nada, nothing.

They ar3 in many places simply do to herd mentality.
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:35 PM   #6960
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I thought the barriers were recommended by the state Gaming Commission, which surely had some basis for recommending them, no? (Although I must be honest, I am not aware of the details here.)

Don't take the above as suggesting that these measures will be effective at preventing the spread of the virus. I agree that's yet to be seen. Opening at all is undoubtedly a substantial risk, but if a casino is going to open this early, it might as well err on the side of caution when the stakes couldn't be higher (pun accidental).
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:25 PM   #6961
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I won't be playing at MGM when they open. I can already see that the amount of complaining that will be going on will be way to annoying for me to handle.
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Old Today, 09:38 AM   #6962
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Looks like MD Live will be pretty aggressive in their safety requirements. Masks required of all hotel/casino guests.
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Old Today, 09:46 AM   #6963
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Looks like MD Live will be pretty aggressive in their safety requirements. Masks required of all hotel/casino guests.
Any word on an estimated opening date?
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