It might depend upon which direction you are heading in, but if I couldn't leave before 3, I wouldn't leave until after 6:30 or 7pm.

GL,

--klez

evening rush traffic is much rougher than AM traffic. if you dont get outta there by 345 you could cost yourself another 30-45min in traffic. lots of offices/govt workers clock out at 4pm...

I got my first trip in last night and watched some MNF while messing around at the 4/8 LHE table.

In general things ran very smoothly to the point where you wouldn't know it was a new room.

The only suggestion I would offer would be some sort of floor map that shows table numbers or making them visible in some other way.

The 4/8 game was played pretty much w/ white and green chips (a few reds sprinkled in) which made things a little clunky. $2 chips might have made it easier. And would like to again request a pink chip game (7.50/15).

Also, there wasn't much of a list so no one said anything but there was one woman who bought in w/ the $40 minimum to start and then once she got all-in she'd pull a $20 out of her pocket effectively rebuying in for $20. I don't know if that's really kosher or not.

3:45 sounds good. I am heading towards 270.

Was thinking worst case will try the EZ pass.

Yeah, I'd get on the road ASAP if you don't want to sit somewhere along the way. Your biggest issue is likely to be where 495 and 270 split after the EZ Pass though there are other potential problems areas on the route as well.

They put a toll at the 270/495 interchange or am I reading this wrong

Colored down two $1k chips yesterday at the cage. The cashier gave me $2,200. I corrected it while still at the window, but obviously a problem.

There are paid HOV lanes between 95 and NoVA that merge back in just before the VA State line.

gotcha thank you

Left at 3:20 and reached rockville area at 4:20.

The traffic was at a standstill after the toll merge. I didn't try ez pass, but, the toll read 7:45 one way.

It is like flying first class to NY (using the HOT's) and getting cramped in the subway to reach home.

Hopefully they will extend the HOT's to 495 soon.

First I appreciate your follow up. In response to the earlier reply, I had already read every related post ITT. Unfortunately I don't really FB so I would likely never find that thread.

What I find wrong with your position is two fold. First you have rewarded the angler with the information he desires. And you are forcing the victim to reveal more info. At a min you need to also limit the angler to only non aggressive actions. IOW, checks and calls; no bets or raises for the rest of the hand.

The second issue is that these misleading actions are already covered in the rules. Verbal is binding but so is a physical betting action. So whichever is first is his action. If verbal is first, then that is his action. If the chips are first then that is the action. Only controversy is if they happen at exactly the same time, which is very difficult to make happen. But then the dealer is the arbiter. He shpuld immediately stop action and clarify what the bet is.

If you do allow the angler to make multiple action, even if you allow the victim to pick, you are ultimately allowing a string bet or potentially an anti string bet. So first action much be the ultimate action. And if he persists in attempting the angle, a discussion with the floor is in order and ultimately some time off if these actions don't stop.

To me it is the worst possible choice to allow or force the other player to have to police this kind of behavior. Running the game and enforcing the rules is the dealers role. Sure players can also help but they should not become the primary rules enforcers.

Once I was at a table with a couple of players having an mini ongoing rules war. The dealer was fairly new and knew that long ago I had dealt. She literally started to look at me to settle their tiffs and be the arbitrator. My response was .... really, nope, I don't get paid for that anymore and I am not entering that no win situation.

Are you considering the bettor or the caller the angler? Creating the deliberate confusion is the angle, IMO. The caller would have the ability to force the angler into either action... on pre-showdown bets, I can see the information gained, but obviuosly not on showdown bets. Once again, this is precisely why I want our dealers to clarify the action, and to make all pots correct before proceeding. The players here don't like it much, but I feel it's in the best interest of he game.

Bettor is the angler. I also agree with making the pot right. I also agree the dealer should immediately clarify the action. The caller should not have to guess nor request clarification. If X is pushed as the bet but y is verbalized, the only proper response is for the dealer to immediately without a request clarify what the first action was an make the pot right aligned with that. If that is your position then mea culpa. But it has not sounded that we to me.

Cant tell you how many issues that non-clear action caused at the Bellagio. Guy drops an amount of red chips down. Dealer does nothing. Older gentleman at the other end asks "How much is that" - partially maybe because he cant see that great, partially because its just a pile of chips. Repeat this XXX times per down for players that just like to lump their chips out there and not verbalize the action.

Wynn dealt with it a completely different way. If it was unclear at the amount of chips that were put out, the dealer *immediately* cleaned up the stacks so that they were easy to read. IE if it was 8 red chips slopped out in a pile they would cut it into two stacks of $20 so everyone had an equal opportunity to see and didnt have to repeatedly ask "how much is that", "how much was that", "whats the bet"...

It wasnt consistent whether or not they would verbalize the amount but sometimes they did - sometimes they didnt. But the couple of dealers that were extremely swift about doing so just really knew what they were doing. Stack of chips is sloppily bet, bang bang they cleaned up the piles, announced "$40" and looked down the table to continue the action. Experienced dealers like that just really take control and things ran so much smoother and more efficient that way - and *everyone* enjoyed it. More hands = more dealer tips = more rake for the house.

BTW I think I agree with Johnny's previous statements of rewarding players who pay attention to the action. Wildly paraphrasing here. But in this case messy action is easily solved.

Just had a dealer with 1k in green and over 100 red in the well refuse to sell a player chips for his $600 rebuy and made him get a chip runner, is this standard?


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Yes. And we also club baby seals! J/K.... no it isn't standard. It was a bad decision by a green dealer.

Played today, and my personal rule of thumb on the subject of traffic is to either leave before 3:30 or stay until at least 8 pm. I went for the later departure today.

JG: All of your employees are extremely pleasant to deal with. Great room!

Johnny, I think this forum should be required reading for all your supervisors...

Cage is still a ridiculous mess. Right now there are 4 tellers at the cage, of which one is serving a customer. They've been trying to give some guy what looks like $1300 for about 10 minutes.

the entire point of the dinner list is to let people go eat without losing their seat for long if at all but also not wasting a seat at the table. the 4 hour minimum makes total sense. you shouldnt need to go on the dinner list if you've barely been playing.

Johnny, just want to say that putting out water and coffee for self-service was a brilliant idea! Thank you for doing this!

Quick question... the coffee wasn't labeled. Is it all regular? If not, it would be helpful to at least label the decaf.

It's a temporary solution. Long term we will have machines... and they will be labeled.

I beg to differ. I plan on arriving this afternoon at 4pm and playing for 5 or 6 hours. I don't want to wait until 8pm to eat. Why should I? Why do you care if I give up my seat at 6:30 and return at 7:30 versus giving up my seat at 8pm and returning at 9pm?

Does not compute. How is playing time relevant to desire to eat? Hypothetically I go to work at 8 am and take my lunch break at noon. Then I come to the casino after work at 5 pm and want to have dinner at 7:30 I "shouldn't need to go on the dinner list because I've barely been playing"? Where is the logic?