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Old 02-06-2019, 05:00 PM   #5551
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Between 5:30 and 6:30 PM, a little early if they chop. Around 7 if there is a good turnout.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:28 PM   #5552
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The high hands are back on Tue and Thu. One hour high hands really? I guess they must be running low on Jackpot funds.

Doesn’t everyone know HH’s with a frequency of more than 30 mins are ineffective, unless the amount paid is equal or higher than 1K/hour. I would
rather see 200/15 mins or 250/30 mins.

Creativity in cash game promo’s for the month of Feb M:0 L:1.
Let's have a cross promotion with black jack. Anyone that plays a game that the casino discourages using any skill what-so-ever are exactly the crowd I want at the poker table. Play x amount of bj and poker, enter y raffle.
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:24 AM   #5553
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Let's have a cross promotion with black jack. Anyone that plays a game that the casino discourages using any skill what-so-ever are exactly the crowd I want at the poker table. Play x amount of bj and poker, enter y raffle.
Cross Game Promotion? Really! Dream on Sir!

We can hardly get tier credits for poker play when every other room in their system has a way to do it. There is no automation for poker comps to convert to cash and you are suggesting they run a cross game promo where they have to track two different games.

Also, with the attention span of a BJ player and their better comp system why would they be excited to play Poker?
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Old 02-07-2019, 07:40 PM   #5554
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Cross Game Promotion? Really! Dream on Sir!

We can hardly get tier credits for poker play when every other room in their system has a way to do it. There is no automation for poker comps to convert to cash and you are suggesting they run a cross game promo where they have to track two different games.

Also, with the attention span of a BJ player and their better comp system why would they be excited to play Poker?
1. I don't have many dreams related to poker players, it was simply a suggestion.

2. Fair enough on the systems in it's current state.

3. Plenty of bj players at the poker table on weekends, I just want more of them. If the prizes were decent enough, it might encourage someone that plays casually to invest some time.

4. See #1.
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Old 02-16-2019, 01:11 PM   #5555
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What are the challenges with getting 5/10 NLH game going mid-days on weekends? Player pool who starts games is similar/exactly with the 10/25 crowd? Realize that the interest volume seems to be borderline, but then later in the day it gets frozen out due to full room?

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Old 02-16-2019, 01:55 PM   #5556
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Been waiting 15 minutes to get chips with two Cashiers and chip runners consistently cutting the line. Drives me crazy.


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Old 02-16-2019, 03:08 PM   #5557
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You should be able to buy checks at the front desk.

Of course, the same issue could be present when cashing out.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:00 PM   #5558
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Been waiting 15 minutes to get chips with two Cashiers and chip runners consistently cutting the line. Drives me crazy
By far, Saturdays are the busiest day of the week in the poker room, so hopefully it's just that a few people called out sick and not that their supervisor thought 2 cashiers should suffice on a Saturday afternoon.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:01 PM   #5559
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You should be able to buy checks at the front desk.

Of course, the same issue could be present when cashing out.


Front desk wasn’t selling when I was there.


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Old 02-16-2019, 10:57 PM   #5560
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MGMNH Poker should always have someone at the front desk who can sell checks for the initial buy-ins.

I believe that the importance of this is drastically underestimated.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:28 AM   #5561
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What are the challenges with getting 5/10 NLH game going mid-days on weekends? Player pool who starts games is similar/exactly with the 10/25 crowd? Realize that the interest volume seems to be borderline, but then later in the day it gets frozen out due to full room?
They refuse to call it when there are bigger games running. I have no idea why. This is incredibly unfair to anyone wanting to play that stake but not being rolled for larger games. Between this and comments by Johnny in this thread, it seems management has it out for the 5/10 regs. Right now there are over 30 names on the list, no game running, and as far as I know, no attempt was made to start one.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:20 AM   #5562
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They refuse to call it when there are bigger games running. I have no idea why. This is incredibly unfair to anyone wanting to play that stake but not being rolled for larger games. Between this and comments by Johnny in this thread, it seems management has it out for the 5/10 regs. Right now there are over 30 names on the list, no game running, and as far as I know, no attempt was made to start one.
Would love to hear Johnny's input on this. This is an alarming trend and the last word we got about this was calling the 5/T players shameful.
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Old 02-17-2019, 08:44 AM   #5563
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Yesterday afternoon and evening, Bravo showed them full spread, with a 10-25 and a 25-50 already running. In addition to the long list of 5-10 players, there were also long lists for all of the 5-card PLO games, so it seems like Johnny and his managers have to decide every Saturday which group of players to piss off.

Without putting in more tables, the poker room cannot keep everyone happy; demand for games exceeds the supply of tables. And human nature being what it is, everyone whose list is not called feels slighted and ignored.

If it really bothers you, vote with your feet, drive 45 minutes and go play at Live. That would be a win-win for both you and MGM's poker room: you get to play the game you want, when you want, and MGM's wait lists get smaller.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:16 AM   #5564
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So 5/10 doesn't run on Saturdays anymore, but 25/50 does? That's unusual. Perhaps more should be known about this 25/50 game. Does anybody have any info?
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:15 PM   #5565
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JG,

The table changes have been a breeze for me the last weeks.. Your staffing is doing a great job with seating players and table changes..
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:19 PM   #5566
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This seems to be an on going problem... Waiting to get chips or cash out sometimes takes awhile... It is a bit tilting
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:23 PM   #5567
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What are the challenges with getting 5/10 NLH game going mid-days on weekends? Player pool who starts games is similar/exactly with the 10/25 crowd? Realize that the interest volume seems to be borderline, but then later in the day it gets frozen out due to full room?
While there is certainly overlap in the player pool, the main difference is that the 10-25 regulars, when they ask a floor to call a 10-25 game, the floors are certain (at least on the weekends) that the game will run immediately and for a long time. The few guys who play most weekends at MGM understand that we need to 2-3-4-5 handed for a while sometimes so we can lock down a table in the afternoon because it would be nearly impossible to get one in the evening. Some of the 5-10 regulars recognize this, but because the player pool is fairly large, it's harder to convince the players on the list to start or continue a game short handed.

From the casino's perspective, they are more reluctant to call a game that may or may not run, and might break after a few dealers, causing delay's in MGM's desire to generate rake, when they know if they call a 1-3 or whatever, it would run and generate rake for sure.

I think the key is to align the 5-10 player pool's interest in having tables for the day with the casino's interest in keeping the rake revenue flowing. The easiest way is, when a 5-10 is called, to play no matter what for as long as needed. A small degree of coordination would be helpful in having a small # of the players who are willing to start the game no matter what show up at a certain time and promise the floor that if a game is called, it will run for at least a few hours so the room is assured of continued flow of rake/toke money for the dealers.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:35 PM   #5568
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So 5/10 doesn't run on Saturdays anymore, but 25/50 does? That's unusual. Perhaps more should be known about this 25/50 game. Does anybody have any info?
5-10 does run almost daily - yesterday was an aberration because the room was at capacity earlier than usual. The 25-50 was a private game and usually doesn't run on weekends either.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:49 PM   #5569
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Yesterday afternoon and evening, Bravo showed them full spread, with a 10-25 and a 25-50 already running. In addition to the long list of 5-10 players, there were also long lists for all of the 5-card PLO games, so it seems like Johnny and his managers have to decide every Saturday which group of players to piss off.

Without putting in more tables, the poker room cannot keep everyone happy; demand for games exceeds the supply of tables. And human nature being what it is, everyone whose list is not called feels slighted and ignored.

If it really bothers you, vote with your feet, drive 45 minutes and go play at Live. That would be a win-win for both you and MGM's poker room: you get to play the game you want, when you want, and MGM's wait lists get smaller.
I think many higher limit regulars are "pissed off" because the room initially advertised the elevated area as a "dedicated high stakes platform" reserved for higher limit games. With the promotions going on weekend mornings - early afternoons, the room fills up quickly with lower limit games, leaving empty tables sparse.

And as an aside, the room should do a better job planning for holiday weekends. Every long weekend, there seems to be an understaffed room on Sunday/Monday.
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Old 02-17-2019, 06:30 PM   #5570
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I think many higher limit regulars are "pissed off" because the room initially advertised the elevated area as a "dedicated high stakes platform" reserved for higher limit games. With the promotions going on weekend mornings - early afternoons, the room fills up quickly with lower limit games, leaving empty tables sparse.



And as an aside, the room should do a better job planning for holiday weekends. Every long weekend, there seems to be an understaffed room on Sunday/Monday.


Yeah but then everyone started complaining about the smell so they started putting 1-3 up on the elevated platform.


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Old 02-17-2019, 07:01 PM   #5571
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We're in Year 3 and still dealing with 10-15 empty tables with long lists on holidays with very predictable increased traffic in the room. If dealers calling out is the common variable can we please start factoring that into the scheduling equation and start to compensate for it?
Just a friendly reminder that tomorrow is a government holiday. Please prep for the room to be packed.
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Old 02-17-2019, 08:41 PM   #5572
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5-10 does run almost daily - yesterday was an aberration because the room was at capacity earlier than usual. The 25-50 was a private game and usually doesn't run on weekends either.
How does a private game work at MGMNH poker?
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Old 02-17-2019, 08:42 PM   #5573
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This makes no sense. If there's a problem smell in the elevated area, no one should be there.
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Old 02-17-2019, 10:00 PM   #5574
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While I agree with this assessment for Saturday, tonight there are plenty of open tables, yet 28 waiting for 5-10 with no game running, 34 on the 1-2-5 list and 21 on the 5-5 list. Perhaps they missed the holiday turnout in the staffing, but there is basically no waiting for 1-3 or 2-5 and hours long for all of the PLO and they didn't run the 5-10 at all. It seems odd. Even if they are short of dealers, I would expect games that generate lots of rake and cater to bigger gamblers who might also give the table games more money would at least have equal footing with the smaller games.

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Yesterday afternoon and evening, Bravo showed them full spread, with a 10-25 and a 25-50 already running. In addition to the long list of 5-10 players, there were also long lists for all of the 5-card PLO games, so it seems like Johnny and his managers have to decide every Saturday which group of players to piss off.

Without putting in more tables, the poker room cannot keep everyone happy; demand for games exceeds the supply of tables. And human nature being what it is, everyone whose list is not called feels slighted and ignored.

If it really bothers you, vote with your feet, drive 45 minutes and go play at Live. That would be a win-win for both you and MGM's poker room: you get to play the game you want, when you want, and MGM's wait lists get smaller.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:51 PM   #5575
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Nice field in the tournament for Presidents day. Cash games are going well too.
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