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Old 04-20-2018, 01:52 PM   #3976
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

I envision a scenario where you call in and still wait an hour for a seat because 50 people called in before you. And the drunk guy who just won 2k playing blackjack doesn’t try his luck at the poker table because he looks at the list and there are 100 people on the list that called in and he assumes that they are ahead of him.


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Old 04-20-2018, 01:53 PM   #3977
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

Won’t the wait lists be massively mitigated with the additional tables? More tables means more recs...
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Old 04-20-2018, 02:30 PM   #3978
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Recs that take advantage of it would be regs by default.
So a rec is someone who plays how many times per year? Once?

If you want him to become a reg, but the only times he can play are when the room has exorbitantly long lists, how do you get him to frequent the room?

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Old 04-20-2018, 02:39 PM   #3979
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If being able to call in to get on the list is beneficial to you, it has to be at the expense of someone else, yes?
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Old 04-20-2018, 02:41 PM   #3980
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If being able to call in to get on the list is beneficial to you, it has to be at the expense of someone else, yes?
yes. That distills my point nicely. Waiting for a table is zero-sum.
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Old 04-20-2018, 02:53 PM   #3981
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

Honestly I never realized this aversion to having people call in. For the 5-5 game its a lifesaver esp if the game hasnt gotten off the ground yet. So I greatly appreciate it being offered even if its only for some games and hope that this continues.

Just about every room in Vegas offers it for most games and they are - table size - much smaller rooms. So this is not like MGM/JG is learning to split the atom here.

On the table issue, I'd disagree that the new room is going to "massively" mitigate any waitlist issues. The room is only (allegedly) adding 7 tables.
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Old 04-20-2018, 03:04 PM   #3982
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Are callins zero sum? I don’t think of them that way.


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Old 04-20-2018, 06:58 PM   #3983
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Honestly I never realized this aversion to having people call in. For the 5-5 game its a lifesaver esp if the game hasnt gotten off the ground yet. So I greatly appreciate it being offered even if its only for some games and hope that this continues.

Just about every room in Vegas offers it for most games and they are - table size - much smaller rooms. So this is not like MGM/JG is learning to split the atom here.

On the table issue, I'd disagree that the new room is going to "massively" mitigate any waitlist issues. The room is only (allegedly) adding 7 tables.
Call ins for games that already get an 80 name list are counter productive. Most common experieice for me is that the list gets clogged with call ins and it takes much longer to fill seats. I want players that are ready to sit down and play to have the ability to do so...
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:09 PM   #3984
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

You guys are barking up the wrong tree with the call-ins. I'm not saying it can't be problematic in minor situations.

In my experiences, mainly with plo, people want to be one two three or four different lists and because the tables are so spread out it's hard for the players and floor to communicate it makes for longer slower lists.

I would say a majority of the players getting called for plo are already seated and probably don't want the seat but the tables are so spread out it's difficult to communicate with the floor. This and the table jumpers make for very long waits and me not interested in coming to play until the new room opens.

The only temporary solution I can think of is asking the players if they would like to have their names taken off any of the lists when they sit but the floor is so swamped it's difficult for them to do much with the situation.
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:12 PM   #3985
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

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Call ins for games that already get an 80 name list are counter productive. Most common experieice for me is that the list gets clogged with call ins and it takes much longer to fill seats. I want players that are ready to sit down and play to have the ability to do so...

isn’t that why the call-in players have the phone icon on Bravo and then it goes away when they checkin? if there were only 5 phone players on a list and a empty seat, isn’t the player physically at the brush who is ready to sit down and play getting that seat anyways?

i wouldn’t even mind if you had to sign up in person but could be placed at the top of the list for the next hour, not being called until you come back within that hour.

can’t tell you how many times i’ve come in the evening, hustle to the brush, no list, go to the restroom or step outside for a minute since it’s preferable for the game to do so beforehand, then come back 5 mins later and there’s 9 people on the list.
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Old 04-21-2018, 10:36 AM   #3986
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So a rec is someone who plays how many times per year? Once?

If you want him to become a reg, but the only times he can play are when the room has exorbitantly long lists, how do you get him to frequent the room?

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Guess I shouldn't post before my morning coffee—sorry.

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Old 04-22-2018, 08:25 PM   #3987
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The bathrooms near the poker room haven't had urinal cakes most of the time for a while now. The green apple scent was very preferable to the scent in there now.
I also notice that the cleaning crew has started to spend their time handing out paper towels and soliciting tips instead of cleaning. The cleanliness has started to degrade noticeably when this is going on, much like when the same thing happened at Maryland Live.
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Old 04-22-2018, 08:57 PM   #3988
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I am of the opposite opinion: if I'm playing poker, I have no interest in sitting around for 30-45 minutes not playing poker.
I'm with Rapini on this one. I play this tournament a couple of times a month and it can finish late as it is. It's sort of silly to have breaks after both level four and level five, but adding a dinner break would be painful. Add the shake shack app to your phone and time your order for one of the existing breaks.
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Old Yesterday, 03:58 AM   #3989
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

Callins are an overall net positive for the Poker Room and the players pool in general. How often you see ppls put name on the list and after the room supervisor call for the game it's a no go, but with ppls who callins are guarantee that the game will happen. Peoples who callins don't get priority if they are not at the casino when the game go off.
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

Any chance you guys can fix the metal railings in the high stakes area? I cut myself Saturday night using the railings while I walked around and down the ramp. Some of them are pretty much knives due to the bent metal. I had to fill out some paper work with a security guard afterwards too.

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Old Yesterday, 05:53 PM   #3991
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

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Are callins zero sum?
Yes.

Callins adjust the order of the queue.
(they also possibly, theoretically, provide a help in forecasting very near-term room demand)

They don't do anything else.

Every seat is filled by someone who can hear the brush. Callins can affect which person (from the pool who can hear the brush) gets the seat. If someone benefits due to a callin, they win and some other person(s) loses by an equivalent amount.

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I don’t think of them that way.
You and apparently everyone else.
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Old Yesterday, 07:52 PM   #3992
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Yes.

Callins adjust the order of the queue.
(they also possibly, theoretically, provide a help in forecasting very near-term room demand)

They don't do anything else.

Every seat is filled by someone who can hear the brush. Callins can affect which person (from the pool who can hear the brush) gets the seat. If someone benefits due to a callin, they win and some other person(s) loses by an equivalent amount.

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.



You and apparently everyone else.
I would take it as a sign that other people in the thread/forum know what they are talking about. Just something to mull over.
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