Great room. Only real complaint is that it seems to have very few trash cans.

Played in the room for the first time. Certainly enjoyed it. Cage was really slow cashing out, but w/e. Dealers were all quite good.

Also I'd love to play a 10/20 LHE game. In for when it happens.

@johnny Couple of questions:

Was in the room Tuesday night / Wed morning (generally great experience), but had a couple of questions.

1) At one point we had a player leave the table to go to dinner, getting on the dinner list, but his chips were left on the table for roughly 90 minutes. We also had (at various times) 2 players away for > 30 minutes. I'm not trying to be a fascist about the time policies but it puts the burden on the players still at the table that they can't step away to avoid 3rd man walking. Just needs to be a little more consistently applied.

2) Still have different dealers saying / doing different things for all ins. Not quite as many as Saturday though.

3) Final question re: hoodies. Can you clarify the rule we need to comply with? At my table on Tuesday we had a few players with sunglasses and hats pulled low, and one player who pulled the his hoodie up over the bottom part of his face. I didn't really care as the bandit was generous with his chips but there was a little confusion.

Thanks again for being so responsive ITT.

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Never saw an answer to this, also wondering if i can turn my gold md live card into something.

Also, FAQ says that you cant show your cards to someone else in a live hand, even heads up. What happens if you do? is the hand dead?

Also button straddles EV+? i doubt that. MAYBE short handed... I support Mississippi straddles because I want the fish to straddle more and blind themselves to death.

I see a lot of mixed games. Are they considering a NLHE/PLO or PLO/PLO8 game?

The former would be a dream and get tons of action, while introducing newer players to PLO.

Also, never understood why people love the MS straddle. Id think you would want weak players in the blinds to make mistakes/bad payoffs postflop. But instead with MS straddle you give the fish a chance to fold and play tighter, if not more correctly in the blinds.

Mississippi button straddles are 100% plus EV in uncapped games, in 200 BB and 250 BB capped games not so much imo. MS straddle gets more fish/recs into bigger games.

The MS gets fish to play bigger games, I have years of stats from Tunica and Biloxi that prove how good the MS straddle is compared to just playing bigger games.

The 10/25 games had some brutal line ups but the 5/10 MS straddle games were decent late night at National Harbor.

Not to mention that many people associated with the LHE list are actually dealers at MD Live (not me), so they cannot play at MD Live. Many of them want a 10/20 game or something similar at a place they can actually play at, aka MGM. To not take advantage of the list is just crazy IMO. That is what it is there for.

I'd be interested if it was 15/30 or 20/40.

Johnny - I see where you posted that tournaments will start January 2016. Can you give us an idea of what those daily tournaments might be? Times? Buy ins?

If it's posted elsewhere, just point me in the right direction. Thanks.

We will have a daily NL tournament (Monday-Thursday) at 11:00AM. Buy in is $120 with a single rebuy available. Friday is a $230 NL. Further details will be posted on Bravo Live soon, along with mgmnationalharbor.com/poker

In the evenings we have tourneys scheduled Sunday-Thur at 7:00PM. Sun-Mon is a $120 NL (Same as 11AM event) Tues-Thur is a $150 Bounty event, Wednesday is an $80 PLO Rebuy Event.

Field sizes will be limited by available space (which has been incredibly limited so far)

Rebuy or reentry?

I made my first visit last night. All but one of the dealers were outstanding. The one exception was a new dealer that I think will get there. However I had an issue and a comment.

Whatever the rules are, I'd like to see consistent enforcement. The hoodie policy is not being enforced. One player had a baseball hat and a hoodie that covered everything down to the oversized shades. Another had a knit hat stretched down to the shades. In both cases, most of the face was covered. If there is a rule against this, these two were clearly in violation. I also had one person with 4 blacks at the base of a stack of reds. One dealer said something and he fixed it but then as soon as that dealer left he put the blacks back in hiding and several other dealers said nothing.

Also, the structure of 1-2 PLO seems the same as Aria, except at Aria the straddle is $10 and here it's $5. I'm not really sure the point of a $5 straddle when it's a $5 bring in anyway. It doesn't really affect the action. Shouldn't it be $10?

Haven't seen anything ITT or online yet but is there (or will there) be a Twitter acct for this room to communicate out promos - tourneys etc?


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Making the straddle a $10 straddle makes an intro level PLO game play far too large for the rec player. Let us see how this plays, and we will make adjustments. Making the game a $10 straddle would essentially make it the same as a 5/5 game.

There will be a dedicated Twitter account for the poker room. It is not operational, but will be soon.

We have made dealers aware in shift updates re: burying chips. Supervisors and dealers are also being made aware about the hoodie/sunglass/hat issue. As we move forward, the consistency will improve.

Thanks for both answers. I agree about the separation with the 5-5, since the Aria 2-5 PLO has the rock in the game and your 5-5 does not. It just seems to make the straddle an oddity that doesn't really affect the action. On the other hand, it is kind of a way to make the intro game not have a straddle without having to argue with people about it. I don't mind; it just seems strange since it doesn't really affect the action.

Cant agree with this enough. Would love to build a robust PLO market and a popular, strong 1/2 game is a great way to do this IMO.

I'm used to people using a hoodie and/or shades and it's not that big of a deal either way except for consistency. I wouldn't have even commented except these two players were kind of creepy the way the were completely covered up. At MDL, I'd see people pull a hood up or put on shades when they were in a hand then pull it down, and even up, you could at least see the rest of their face. In both of these cases, it looked like they were trying to hide from someone and was a little creepy so I was surprised it didn't get anyone's attention.

I wish a poker room would just be bold and say straight up no hoodies and no shades.

Anyways, I expect to play 100-150 hours of poker in this room this winter, hopefully run good and take some shots in bigger PLO games.

Why? The warmest pullover/sweatshirt I own is an old North Face hoodie. And in all the years I've owned it, I dont think I've put the hood up once. Thats what the MGMNH rule is (allegedly) hoodies allowed but no hoods up for security reasons.

Not sure why my choice of outerwear would bother anyone.

I doubt that was the intent of the comment. I think it was more being more direct about saying no having the hood up and no shades on. I wear hoodies to the casino as well. It would be odd to rule them out entirely.

Ah, gotcha.

The hoodie rule seems strange to me...while I like having less hoodies up, shades on, players going into "lockdown" (hoodies pulled over their neck and face) and more social interaction at the tables at the end of the day its the. "internet kids" money too and they should be free to play in a way that makes them comfortable, IMO...oh right it's a security issue🙄...

the rule is bound to be arbitrarily enforced (no hoodie, but knit hat pulled low? Scarf up high? Going to tell a high-limit player to pull it down (not like you have many, if any, that have their hood up but that's besides the point).

Also as previously stated 10 straddle would be too big for 1-2