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10-26-2017 , 10:35 PM
Regardless of what the rule should be, the MGMNH rule is that whomever has been at the table longer gets priority.
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10-27-2017 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Joe Davola
Regardless of what the rule should be, the MGMNH rule is that whomever has been at the table longer gets priority.
Can the player who has been at the table longer keep taking the new open seat after someone asks for it, or is his priority given up after he takes the first open seat?

It seems that seat change buttons would be a significant improvement in this process.
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10-27-2017 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
Can the player who has been at the table longer keep taking the new open seat after someone asks for it, or is his priority given up after he takes the first open seat?

It seems that seat change buttons would be a significant improvement in this process.
Once a player changes seAts, dealers log them out and back in. This makes their time played in Bravo reset, effectively making them last in seniority.
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10-27-2017 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
Once a player changes seAts, dealers log them out and back in. This makes their time played in Bravo reset, effectively making them last in seniority.


I have never seen this happen intentionally, dealers use the ‘M’ to move players, not logging them out and back in


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10-27-2017 , 04:50 PM
Legend has it that Wild Bill Hickok had a seat change button before the unfortunate accident.
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10-27-2017 , 04:59 PM
Can we get playing behind buttons? Almost a weekly occurrence now of someone losing (or almost losing) a ton of money not knowing someone was playing more behind.
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10-27-2017 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerini
Legend has it that Wild Bill Hickok had a seat change button before the unfortunate accident.
Pretty sure that was not an accident
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10-27-2017 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Havax
Can we get playing behind buttons? Almost a weekly occurrence now of someone losing (or almost losing) a ton of money not knowing someone was playing more behind.
+1,000 (behind)

Still a fan of the single large button that goes in front of the dealer when any player has money behind.
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10-28-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrad
+1,000 (behind)

Still a fan of the single large button that goes in front of the dealer when any player has money behind.
At the end of the day, it's your responsibility to know how much everyone is playing with. If you were at the table when the player purchased chips, then you should know they have chips on the way. I can see this being an issue if someone wasn't present when the player reloaded though.
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10-28-2017 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by highaltitudepkr
At the end of the day, it's your responsibility to know how much everyone is playing with. If you were at the table when the player purchased chips, then you should know they have chips on the way. I can see this being an issue if someone wasn't present when the player reloaded though.
I agree that it is our responsibility to know, but the first half of your post and the second half are at odds with each other. When I originally advocated for the playing behind buttons, I used the example of a player being away from the table when money was given to a chip runner. I've seen that happen several times. It's unreasonable to expect every player to ask if anybody is playing behind when they come to a table, especially new/recreational players. We want to protect those players from feeling cheated and not returning, and I can guarantee you that they make up the majority of players who would be hurt by not knowing somebody has more money coming. I see no downside to having the buttons, and a clear upside.
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10-28-2017 , 04:29 PM
What is the argument against all in and playing behind buttons?
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10-28-2017 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Joe Davola
What is the argument against all in and playing behind buttons?


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Originally Posted by highaltitudepkr
At the end of the day, it's your responsibility to know how much everyone is playing with.

So far this is the argument against. Pretty weak one imo.
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10-28-2017 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Joe Davola
What is the argument against all in and playing behind buttons?
The argument against all in buttons is that whole it is fine of the player announces he is all in, if a player simply makes a bet which puts him all in .... it makes no more sense for the dealer to announce him as all in then it would for the dealer to announce how much more a player has in his stack anytime he makes a bet....
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10-28-2017 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrad
So far this is the argument against. Pretty weak one imo.
I pretty clearly stated why that argument is weak in the same post.

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Originally Posted by highaltitudepkr
I can see this being an issue if someone wasn't present when the player reloaded though.
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10-28-2017 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by highaltitudepkr
I pretty clearly stated why that argument is weak in the same post.
Yea I understand that, wasn't attacking you. I was just answering Joe's question with the only attempt I've seen so far to argue against playing behind buttons.
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10-29-2017 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrad
Yea I understand that, wasn't attacking you. I was just answering Joe's question with the only attempt I've seen so far to argue against playing behind buttons.
No worries man. That was pretty much the only devils advocate argument I could make for not using some sort of marker or button to signify a player with cash behind. Your point about the players most at risk here being the rec players was on point, because ultimately they're the ones than need the most protection. It's in everyone's best interest for them to have an enjoyable experience without any added intimidation factor or disadvantages that can be easily avoided.
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10-30-2017 , 06:34 PM
I have a procedure question that came up today that I wasn't sure on.

I was in the BB today and it limped around to me. I had a red chip out there for my blind and I took it back and replaced it with a green chip to raise to $25. UTG called and it folded around to the button who claimed that because I didn't say raise, it was just a call. I argued that it was probably pretty clear that I was raising since I removed a $5 chip that covered the $3 needed to call and replaced it with a green chip. He said that the rule was when you throw in one chip it is a call and the dealer said that he was technically correct. I agree with the rule that tossing in one chip before you have acted is a call, but I figured that since I removed my blind and threw in more money that it would be a valid raise. The button relented and made the call, but it was just a weird situation and I'm not sure what the right answer is.
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10-30-2017 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
I have a procedure question that came up today that I wasn't sure on.

I was in the BB today and it limped around to me. I had a red chip out there for my blind and I took it back and replaced it with a green chip to raise to $25. UTG called and it folded around to the button who claimed that because I didn't say raise, it was just a call. I argued that it was probably pretty clear that I was raising since I removed a $5 chip that covered the $3 needed to call and replaced it with a green chip. He said that the rule was when you throw in one chip it is a call and the dealer said that he was technically correct. I agree with the rule that tossing in one chip before you have acted is a call, but I figured that since I removed my blind and threw in more money that it would be a valid raise. The button relented and made the call, but it was just a weird situation and I'm not sure what the right answer is.
With your red chip in the BB you are playing $3. When it has been limped back to you, you have the option, correct? The options are to call or to raise (and to fold, but that’s not optimal play). If you wanted to call you would have either said call or tapped the table. You did not do that but rather you chose to replace your red chip (playing 3) with the higher green chip, which is your right to do with the option. The fact you were silent would not matter as your intention is to exercise your option with a raise to the full value of the green chip, $25.

With that being said, verbalizing raises always makes clear your intent. Of course some players prefer not vocalizing in order to reduce tells, but that is the trade off - clarity of intent vs. risk of signaling your hand strength.
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10-30-2017 , 07:49 PM
I have seen people who were playing behind and forgot the had cash coming and they go all in with the small amount of chips in front of them and when called the were surprised they had to fork over the cash when it arrived. They can't argue against it but they never forget it.
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10-30-2017 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wzupdok
With your red chip in the BB you are playing $3. When it has been limped back to you, you have the option, correct? The options are to

call or to raise

(and to fold, but that’s not optimal play). If you wanted to call you would have either said call or tapped the table. You did not do that but rather you chose to replace your red chip (playing 3) with the higher green chip, which is your right to do with the option. The fact you were silent would not matter as your intention is to exercise your option with a raise to the full value of the green chip, $25.

With that being said, verbalizing raises always makes clear your intent. Of course some players prefer not vocalizing in order to reduce tells, but that is the trade off - clarity of intent vs. risk of signaling your hand strength.
Because he already had the BB in place, he had already called, with the option to check, or raise.
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10-31-2017 , 09:34 AM
JG almost the end of the month, any insight on cash promo’s for next month?

I know you will be busy with PPO for tournaments.
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10-31-2017 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
I have a procedure question that came up today that I wasn't sure on.

I was in the BB today and it limped around to me. I had a red chip out there for my blind and I took it back and replaced it with a green chip to raise to $25. UTG called and it folded around to the button who claimed that because I didn't say raise, it was just a call. I argued that it was probably pretty clear that I was raising since I removed a $5 chip that covered the $3 needed to call and replaced it with a green chip. He said that the rule was when you throw in one chip it is a call and the dealer said that he was technically correct. I agree with the rule that tossing in one chip before you have acted is a call, but I figured that since I removed my blind and threw in more money that it would be a valid raise. The button relented and made the call, but it was just a weird situation and I'm not sure what the right answer is.


Significant action happened before the button said anything so it’s $25 regardless. Next time just say raise.
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10-31-2017 , 12:12 PM
Can the poker room comps be used for food at any and all the restaurants at MGMNH including Fish, the steak house, Ginger and Tap?
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10-31-2017 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by vaz
Can the poker room comps be used for food at any and all the restaurants at MGMNH including Fish, the steak house, Ginger and Tap?
Yes. You just have to get them loaded on to your card in the poker room and tell them where you want to eat.

Lot of activity in the garage today. Looks like they are unwrapping the ticket machines and possibly painting the road at the exit. Nov 1 charged parking date?
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10-31-2017 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
I have a procedure question that came up today that I wasn't sure on.

I was in the BB today and it limped around to me. I had a red chip out there for my blind and I took it back and replaced it with a green chip to raise to $25. UTG called and it folded around to the button who claimed that because I didn't say raise, it was just a call. I argued that it was probably pretty clear that I was raising since I removed a $5 chip that covered the $3 needed to call and replaced it with a green chip. He said that the rule was when you throw in one chip it is a call and the dealer said that he was technically correct. I agree with the rule that tossing in one chip before you have acted is a call, but I figured that since I removed my blind and threw in more money that it would be a valid raise. The button relented and made the call, but it was just a weird situation and I'm not sure what the right answer is.


Should've been a raise.


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