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I think the promo is great exactly how it is. Only change i could see is dropping those $1k payouts to $599 and reallocating the rest of it (like all 4 HH should be $599)

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07-23-2017 , 08:08 PM

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Fore

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

4x5
4x5
8x5
8xunlimited

Math is hard

Then let's try a rephrase of the prior claim. In a standard (per RRoP) 4-8 LHE game, your max cash at risk unless you choose otherwise, is $96. That is you can't be forced to make decisions for more than that amount.

Now if NH has decided to have a bet and four raises instead of three, that increases the cap. Similarly at some places a straddle can change the cap. But the reality is at LHE there is a cap you know before entering a pot unless you choose to put more at risk.

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07-23-2017 , 08:19 PM

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JohnnyGroomsTD

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Originally Posted by Fore

We have a bet and four raises....

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07-23-2017 , 09:37 PM

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Fore

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

We have a bet and four raises....

As was noted and is certainly no issue. But doesn't change LHE by its nature and structure has a max per hand risk cap that can not be taken from a player

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07-24-2017 , 12:59 AM

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Tomark

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Originally Posted by Fore

As was noted and is certainly no issue. But doesn't change LHE by its nature and structure has a max per hand risk cap that can not be taken from a player

The point actually was that 4/8 is not even close to a 1/3 NLH size game.

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07-24-2017 , 12:24 PM

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holmfries

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Originally Posted by Tomark

The point actually was that 4/8 is not even close to a 1/3 NLH size game.

That is just nonsense and the analysis is just too simple. Average pot size is way higher for 4/8 than 1/3. The structured nature is going to introduce more variance so it depends on what you call a "bigger" game.

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07-24-2017 , 01:03 PM

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Rapini

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Regarding whether 1/3 or 4/8 in general plays bigger, if you'd like to continue that discussion please make a new thread for that issue in Poker Theory or the main LCP forum.

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07-24-2017 , 01:42 PM

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LAK23

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

Yes. Details will be released on July 24.

Anxiously awaiting the details...

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07-24-2017 , 02:40 PM

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Tomark

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Originally Posted by Rapini

Regarding whether 1/3 or 4/8 in general plays bigger, if you'd like to continue that discussion please make a new thread for that issue in Poker Theory or the main LCP forum.

I did my best not to derail, but now im kind of curious if someone has a reasonable argument to defend 4/8 as playing as big as 1/3, so I made a thread.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15.../#post52594782

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07-24-2017 , 03:03 PM

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JohnnyGroomsTD

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Originally Posted by LAK23

Anxiously awaiting the details...

Complete schedule still not ready... preliminary details, subject to change:

Potomac Poker Open, November 24 -December 4, 2017. Opening event, $565 no Limit, $500K guaranteed prize pool. Main event, $2,700 no limit $500K guaranteed. Possible hotel room deal for +/- 130ish per night at a local hotel...

Midweek events including seniors, Big O, PLO, 5 card Omaha.

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07-24-2017 , 03:32 PM

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BillyBizzle

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

Main event, $2,700 no limit $500K guaranteed.

I was excited for your first event and am glad that you're starting to put on serious events. I understand why you wouldn't want to dream too big on your first event, but I think that guarantee will cap the potential field at something like 350-450 entrants at best.

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07-24-2017 , 03:46 PM

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JohnnyGroomsTD

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Originally Posted by BillyBizzle

Possibly, but looking at data from competitors in the market, that number appears to be about what to expect regardless of a guarantee.

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07-24-2017 , 03:52 PM

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kimoser22

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

Any chance of a mixed games/ dealers choice tourney? I'd guess 500 + vig would be a good price point that would still draw from some of the 10-25 mix players as well as low enough to attract some fresh faces.

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07-24-2017 , 03:54 PM

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flopshot

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

Bummer some of this is running Thanksgiving weekend.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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07-24-2017 , 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by flopshot

Bummer some of this is running Thanksgiving weekend.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

True, but our options are limited as far as space goes.

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07-24-2017 , 03:59 PM

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Mr Sandbag

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Originally Posted by BillyBizzle

I think the structure affects it a little more. If it's really really good they'll smash the guarantee.

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07-24-2017 , 04:18 PM

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DMoogle

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Would love to have a PLO event that caters to 5/5 and above players - $1500 buy-in would be a nice sweet spot. MD Live and Borgata only ever seem to have $550 and $350 PLO events. Even if it doesn't get many runners, the event would still be enjoyable.

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07-24-2017 , 04:36 PM

#2718

Jlo22

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

THANK YOU!!! Thrilled to have a tournament series in my own backyard. The poker room has been great and we appreciate all you do to incorporate player feedback. Looking forward to this!

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07-24-2017 , 05:07 PM

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teddyrowe9

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

Any idea how many starting flights/days there will be for the $565? If day 2 starts Sunday, it'd be nice to have an evening Saturday flight to accommodate those getting back into town early Saturday.

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07-24-2017 , 05:30 PM

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JohnnyGroomsTD

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Originally Posted by teddyrowe9

Any idea how many starting flights/days there will be for the $565? If day 2 starts Sunday, it'd be nice to have an evening Saturday flight to accommodate those getting back into town early Saturday.

4 flights
11AM and 6PM on Friday
11AM and 6PM on Saturday

This will be a single re-entry per flight

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07-24-2017 , 05:38 PM

#2721

JohnnyGroomsTD

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Originally Posted by DMoogle

1K PLO a possibility.... with a reload (free chips held in reserve to lower variance. Chips could be put into play any time in first 6 levels, or used as a second bullet if a player gets busted)

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07-24-2017 , 05:44 PM

#2722

JohnnyGroomsTD

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For those in the area, what do you feel is the best time to run secondary afternoon events? Traffic is a consideration I am looking at... Eastbound traffic over the bridge is at its heaviest from 3pm-6pm...

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07-24-2017 , 05:46 PM

#2723

The Apex

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Where will the tournaments be held?

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07-24-2017 , 05:52 PM

#2724

Didace

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Originally Posted by kimoser22

Any chance of a mixed games/ dealers choice tourney?

Dealer's choice tourney seems problematic.

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07-24-2017 , 05:59 PM

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DMoogle

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

1K PLO a possibility.... with a reload (free chips held in reserve to lower variance. Chips could be put into play any time in first 6 levels, or used as a second bullet if a player gets busted)

I would be for an unlimited $1K rebuy event - think it would be awesome action, but this sounds good too. Thanks for listening, as always.

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