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07-18-2017 , 12:31 AM
What can I expect for limit holdem that is bigger than 4/8 but smaller than 60/120? I looked at bravo tonight and there was a 10/20 going which is encouraging. Anything on times and stakes would be appreciated. I am coming to town Sunday to Wednesday.
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07-18-2017 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dicklaw
Random questions:

If I want a table change, considering the one hour rule here, is it preferred to ask the dealer, or go directly to the front desk, or what?

Is there a drinking fountain around the room? I'm more middle age water than old man coffee. I saw some drinking fountains that were set up to refill bottles outside the casino, near the shops, but am not sure if there is one near the poker room.

Thx.
The only fountains are outside near the rest rooms closer to the market place area. A fountain in shake shack. Inside the Casino there are no options other than ordering from the waitress.
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07-18-2017 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dicklaw
Random questions:

If I want a table change, considering the one hour rule here, is it preferred to ask the dealer, or go directly to the front desk, or what?

Is there a drinking fountain around the room? I'm more middle age water than old man coffee. I saw some drinking fountains that were set up to refill bottles outside the casino, near the shops, but am not sure if there is one near the poker room.

Thx.
skip the dealer. table change must be from a supervisor.
I goto the brush to avoid any problems.
ie: supervisor walking around got distracted by some other player/dealer and around forgot about you.

get hot water from the self serve coffee machine, and let it cool off.
only takes 5 min to be drinkable
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07-18-2017 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by holmfries
What can I expect for limit holdem that is bigger than 4/8 but smaller than 60/120? I looked at bravo tonight and there was a 10/20 going which is encouraging. Anything on times and stakes would be appreciated. I am coming to town Sunday to Wednesday.
Most of the time 4/8 is the only limit game going. The action is actually pretty good though and I enjoy playing it as a change of pace from 1/3.
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07-18-2017 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
Most of the time 4/8 is the only limit game going. The action is actually pretty good though and I enjoy playing it as a change of pace from 1/3.
I would love to start a moderately higher limit game... something in the 8/16- 10/20 range regularly. Cant seem to drum up enough interest.
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07-18-2017 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
I would love to start a moderately higher limit game... something in the 8/16- 10/20 range regularly. Cant seem to drum up enough interest.
make it $1 rake
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07-19-2017 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
make it $1 rake
If making the game a $1 rake is the difference maker that creates a game, chances are it wont be a game that has any staying power (or any rational person would want to play in). The lineup would likely be pretty rocky...
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07-19-2017 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
If making the game a $1 rake is the difference maker that creates a game, chances are it wont be a game that has any staying power (or any rational person would want to play in). The lineup would likely be pretty rocky...
Is this an argument for more rake is better?

Last edited by Rapini; 07-19-2017 at 02:04 PM.
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07-19-2017 , 02:14 PM
Is there any sort of "poker comps for stupids that have never been to a casino before" that anyone could point me to? I'm having trouble finding anything more than bits and pieces and don't understand.
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07-19-2017 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
I would love to start a moderately higher limit game... something in the 8/16- 10/20 range regularly. Cant seem to drum up enough interest.
I would love an 8/16 game. I'll try to talk to some of the 4/8 regs and see if they would ever be interested in that.
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07-19-2017 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by airwave16
Is there any sort of "poker comps for stupids that have never been to a casino before" that anyone could point me to? I'm having trouble finding anything more than bits and pieces and don't understand.
poker comp rate= $2/hr for $1/3 nl, $3 hr for timed games.

poker comps cannot be used directly at food court.
you must convert poker comps to regular comps but u cant do that by yourself.
you must have a poker supervisor to do that.

I wished that I could at least VIEW how much poker comps I have w/o having to bother a supervisor.

johnny- u cant set up a machine just to view your poker comps?
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07-19-2017 , 04:55 PM
Is food the only thing you can use them for?
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07-19-2017 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by airwave16
Is food the only thing you can use them for?
What else would you like to use them for? If you're specific, then Johnny or someone else who knows can help.
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07-19-2017 , 05:33 PM
Related to the latest questions regarding comps, how exactly do you get comps? Do you have to have a mlife card? If it's on a card, how do you use it for food?

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07-19-2017 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
What else would you like to use them for? If you're specific, then Johnny or someone else who knows can help.
Booze, MDL allowed their comps to be used for booze, HSB as well so its not a State Reg

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Related to the latest questions regarding comps, how exactly do you get comps? Do you have to have a mlife card? If it's on a card, how do you use it for food?
You need an Mlife card to receive comps, if you forgot yours mid-way through a session and u were logged in as a guest, a supervisor can usually make you a re-print and back you up. To use the comps you wither give the card to a food runner, who takes care of the comp process or you ask a supervisor for a comp denomination at a specific restaurant (e.g. Marcus) or the food court then walk the comp to the food court and use it in lieu of cash.
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07-19-2017 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
If making the game a $1 rake is the difference maker that creates a game, chances are it wont be a game that has any staying power (or any rational person would want to play in). The lineup would likely be pretty rocky...
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
I would love an 8/16 game. I'll try to talk to some of the 4/8 regs and see if they would ever be interested in that.
Generally I'd agree with you johnny, in this case I don't. You are introducing people to a new variant of poker that for whatever reason people there don't seem to play. And before you say "well they could just play 4/8", understand that there is a whole demographic that isn't going to "slum it" by playing that low.

8/16 would be a good sustainable limit. Throw a half kill in there for funsies and you have yourself a game. Average buy in should be the same as for 2/5, which you guys seem overrun with.

Just my two cents.
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07-20-2017 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
What else would you like to use them for? If you're specific, then Johnny or someone else who knows can help.
At Maryland LIVE, you can also use comps to buy merchandise in the gift shop.
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07-20-2017 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
I would love to start a moderately higher limit game... something in the 8/16- 10/20 range regularly. Cant seem to drum up enough interest.
I haven't been to MGM because there isn't a 10/20 or 20/40 game running from what I see online. I would happily play 8/16 (half kill or something would be even better). I have to go to the Borgata which is 2.5 hours instead of MGM which is 45 minutes for this reason.
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07-20-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave D
I haven't been to MGM because there isn't a 10/20 or 20/40 game running from what I see online. I would happily play 8/16 (half kill or something would be even better). I have to go to the Borgata which is 2.5 hours instead of MGM which is 45 minutes for this reason.
They did have a 10/20 limit game running this past Monday night around 1100pm.
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07-20-2017 , 02:59 PM
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Johnny,

Please make sure the tournament dealers are up-to-speed on this rule. I saw it misapplied 4 times in a 3 hour timeframe on Wednesday night.

Rule 15: Face Up for All-Ins. “All cards will be tabled without delay once a player is all-in and all betting action by all other players in the hand is complete”. This rule means that all downcards of all players will be turned up at once when at least one player is all-in and there is no chance of further betting action by the other player(s). Do not wait for the showdown to turn the cards up; do not wait for sidepots to be divided before turning up the all-in who is only in for the main pot; if betting action is finalized on any street prior to the showdown, turn the cards up at that point and then run out the remaining cards.

Example 1. NLHE. Two players remain. On the turn, Player A (the shorter stack) pushes all-in and is called by B. Turn both A and B’s downcards up at this point, then burn and turn the river and proceed to showdown.

Example 2. NLHE. Three players remain.
Pre-flop, Player A (the shortest stack) pushes all-in and is called by both B and C. Do not turn cards up yet because B and C both have chips so further betting action is possible.
On the flop B and C check; betting is still possible so don’t turn the cards up yet.
On the turn B pushes all-in and C calls. Turn all hands up now (A, B, and C) because no further betting is possible. Burn and turn the river then proceed to showdown. Award the sidepot between B and C first, then award the main pot. Notice: you do not keep A’s cards face down until the sidepot between B and C is awarded.

Example 3. NLHE. Three players remain.
Pre-flop, Player A (the shortest stack) pushes all-in for 700 and is called by both B and C who have several thousand each left. Do not turn cards up yet because B and C both have chips so further betting action is possible.
On the flop B and C check; betting is still possible so don’t turn the cards up yet.
On the turn B bets 1000 and C calls. Since both B and C still have chips and the river remains to be dealt, betting is still possible so don’t turn the cards up yet.
On the river both B and C check. Turn all hands up now (A, B, and C) because betting is over and the hand is moving to showdown. Award the 2000 sidepot between B and C first, then award the main pot. Notice: do not keep A’s cards face down until the sidepot between B and C is awarded.
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07-20-2017 , 05:11 PM
I tried to get a weekly 20-40 LHE going for Wednesdays but was not successful. I'll probably try again at the end of the summer.
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07-20-2017 , 11:24 PM
Hey there are like 5 people on the 20/40 list now. So you are saying there is a chance...
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07-21-2017 , 12:13 AM
What about giving the 8/16 - 20/40 game $1 rake when short handed to get people to start the game?


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07-21-2017 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by holmfries
Generally I'd agree with you johnny, in this case I don't. You are introducing people to a new variant of poker that for whatever reason people there don't seem to play. And before you say "well they could just play 4/8", understand that there is a whole demographic that isn't going to "slum it" by playing that low.

8/16 would be a good sustainable limit. Throw a half kill in there for funsies and you have yourself a game. Average buy in should be the same as for 2/5, which you guys seem overrun with.

Just my two cents.
For what its worth, id play 8/16 from time to time if it was a regular game but i wouldnt play a game that has an email list because id rather not play with people that persistent. I would never pay 4/8 because its a rakefest. Of course whenever i played 8/16 youd just be cannibalizing your 1/3 game moreso than bringing in more people.

I would say 8/16 realistically plays as big as 1/3, not 2/5.
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07-21-2017 , 02:14 AM
I don't think a regular 8/16 game cannibalizing the 1/3 would necessarily be a bad thing. Even if 8 of the 10 players there would otherwise be playing 1/3 you'd have 1 or 2 who come specifically for the LHE game.
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