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Old 12-08-2016, 10:36 PM   #1
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MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxon Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

This thread is for discussion specifically related to the MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (MGMNH). Any discussion that is not specifically related to MGMNH--including low-content or chatter posts--should go in the Maryland Regional Communities thread, which can be found here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/20...yland-1265087/.

WEBSITES:

Main -- https://www.mgmnationalharbor.com/en.html
Poker -- https://www.mgmnationalharbor.com/en/casino/poker.html
Bravo Poker Live -- https://www.bravopokerlive.com/venue...asino-resort/#

DIRECTIONS:

Address: 101 Harborview Ave, Oxon Hill, MD 20745

Driving: Essentially, all directions end in the Oxon Hill Road Exit. The local exits of 495 north will lead to MGM National Harbor, while southbound exits on 495 should exit to Oxon Hill Rd.

Public Transit: NH2 bus -- https://www.wmata.com/schedules/time...upload/nh2.pdf -- which connects with metrorail at King Street.

Shuttle: There is a shuttle that runs from National Harbor.

PARKING:

https://www.mgmnationalharbor.com/en...r-parking.html

Self-park: "While the resort will move to a paid parking model in the future, Self-Parking for our guests will be complimentary during the opening period." Johnny recommends floors 3 and 4 near the elevators as the ideal spaces for poker room parking.
Valet: "Valet parking will be available 24-hours per day. Rates will be $25 for up to 12 hours, $45 for 12-24 hours."

THE POKER ROOM
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POKER DIRECTOR: Johnny Grooms (JohnnyGroomsTD)

POKER ROOM PHONE NUMBER: 301-971-5600
*** Poker room is currently NOT accepting call-ins for game wait lists, may be implemented sometime in January ***

39 TABLES

GAMES- Any game legal in MD: Holdem, Omaha, Badugi, Badeucey, Badacey, and Stud Variants.

BUY-INS

1/3 NL: $100-$500
2/5 NL: $300-$1000
5/10 NL: $600-$2500
10/25 NL: $1,500 min (no max)
25/50 NL: $3,000 min (no max)
50/100 NL: $5,000 min (no max)

1/2 PLO: $200-$700, $5 Bring in
5/5 PLO: $500-$2,500
5/10 PLO: $1,000 min (no max)
10/25 PLO: $2,500 min (no max)
25/50 PLO: $5,000 min (no max)
50/100 PLO: $10,000 min (no max)

All chips will move on transfers, regardless of whether it's a voluntary move or broken table.

RAKE:

10% to $5 max on games below 5/10.

$7 per half hour on 5/10 NL/PL; 15/30 L.

No flop, no drop.

Reduced rake in effect when there are 6 players or less.

BAD BEAT JACKPOT:

$2 jackpot drop ($1 @ $10, $1 @ $30) on jackpot-eligible games.
Quad 7s beaten, pot >=$10, both cards must play in both the winning and losing hands, and kicker must tie or beat the board to qualify.
Both cards must play; kicker must at least tie the board kicker.
Split is 40%-20%-40% with a player share for anyone dealt into the jackpot hand.

MISCELLANEOUS

NLHE games are 10-handed at 1/3 and 2/5 and 9-handed at 5/10 & up.
PLO games are 9-handed.
LHE games are 10-handed below 10/20 and 9-handed at 10/20 & up.

There is no betting line; the racetrack line is a courtesy line.

Players in the hand may talk about the hand when heads up, but no cards may be revealed.

UTG straddles are allowed in NLHE. Mississippi straddles are allowed in PLO.

Running it twice is permitted in time-raked games. Maryland law requires only one flop, but allows for two turns and two rivers.

New players must post in limit games and higher-limit games, but not in low-limit games.

Players with a live hand may request to see other hands at showdown, but any hands shown in this manner are live.

The poker room will use KEM cards.

PLAYER BOXES: Hundreds of boxes are available for a $100 deposit and $100 annual fee. The annual fee may be waived based on frequency and level of play. Boxes must be accessed at least once every 90 days.

COMPS: $2/hr in pot-raked games; $3 in time-rake games. Comps expire one year from the day they were earned. No comped or reduced rates on hotel rooms.

FOOD: All food options available in the food court/market area will be available in the poker room via dedicated food runners.

Free WiFi is available. Players will be allowed to use electronic devices unless their use slows down the game.

[If you'd like to provide an update to the FAQ, please copy this entire post, make necessary changes, and send via PM to Rapini. Thank you.]

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Old 12-09-2016, 12:16 AM   #2
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxen Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

Doors are open...tip..pay the extra and valet and you walk straight in. Parking garage and elevators are less tight now. No wait for 1:3 or 2:5...seated right away lots of empty tables available

Johnny, we are at table 10; room looks amazing. Congrats...
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Old 12-09-2016, 12:17 AM   #3
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Just had an all in and the "full call" rule did not slow things down at all. As matter of fact it saves time after the showdown of having to get the pots right and distributed.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:59 AM   #4
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Re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxen Hill, MD); FAQ in OP

Exhausted after a 16 hour day today. I hope you all enjoyed the room. We had some bumps and bruises, but I was overall pleased with opening. Apologies for delays on Safety deposit boxes. We will do better tomorrow.
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Old 12-09-2016, 03:37 AM   #5
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re: MGM National Harbor Resort & Casino (Oxen Hill, MD);

The Bravo Poker Live link above doesn't work for me—some kind of account issue. But I can see room details from the Bravo app on my smartphone.

I had been planning to come visit Thursday evening, but the traffic reports scared me off. Maybe I'll try Friday mid-day.

I'm hoping there will be some Omaha8 tables. Bravo shows a waitlist for 4-8 limit Omaha Hi/Lo, but no current tables going.

Btw, I've seen the address listed as 101 National Ave (Oxen Hill, MD) but if you're planning to use a GPS I saw a news report suggesting that it would work better to use 101 Harborview Ave.
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Old 12-09-2016, 06:33 AM   #6
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Exhausted after a 16 hour day today. I hope you all enjoyed the room. We had some bumps and bruises, but I was overall pleased with opening. Apologies for delays on Safety deposit boxes. We will do better tomorrow.
What does this mean? When will they be available?
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Old 12-09-2016, 08:05 AM   #7
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Just had an all in and the "full call" rule did not slow things down at all. As matter of fact it saves time after the showdown of having to get the pots right and distributed.
I get the excitement and all but to say the rule doesn't slow the game down is ridiculous. Every "all-in" isn't going to go to showdown which will absolutely slow the game down. When it does go to showdown it won't "save time"' as the same count will be made either way. So to review......when showdown, same. When no showdown, it slows the game.
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Old 12-09-2016, 08:08 AM   #8
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Exhausted after a 16 hour day today. I hope you all enjoyed the room. We had some bumps and bruises, but I was overall pleased with opening. Apologies for delays on Safety deposit boxes. We will do better tomorrow.
Congratulations on the G.O. exciting and proud times I'm sure. Thank you for your efforts in this thread during 2016 in being so active and engaged with the poker community. Imagine if every room manager was as engaged with their client base as you are? Wow that would energize the entire industry!!! Great job in being a tremendous ambassador to the game and best of luck getting some rest here and there!!
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Old 12-09-2016, 08:21 AM   #9
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I get the excitement and all but to say the rule doesn't slow the game down is ridiculous. Every "all-in" isn't going to go to showdown which will absolutely slow the game down. When it does go to showdown it won't "save time"' as the same count will be made either way. So to review......when showdown, same. When no showdown, it slows the game.
Please give an example of an all-in being called but doesn't go to showdown, because I just don't get it.
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Old 12-09-2016, 08:37 AM   #10
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He meant Count down instead of showdown???

When the losing all-in player is obviously covered???
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Old 12-09-2016, 08:44 AM   #11
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Guys, just play limit so you don't to worry about these complicated discussions!

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Old 12-09-2016, 09:23 AM   #12
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Just came from mlife desk, they matched my borgata black card to mlife gold. I asked the lady if they're matching anything else and she told me no. But I heard on the floor you can contact a host to see what they can do.
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:44 AM   #13
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Johnny - I plan to visit on Sunday afternoon. Will I be able to meet you then & shake your hand? Parking & driving in/out shouldn't be too much of an issue by then. Excellent marketing and hype - am sure it will live up to it

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Old 12-09-2016, 10:31 AM   #14
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I get the excitement and all but to say the rule doesn't slow the game down is ridiculous. Every "all-in" isn't going to go to showdown which will absolutely slow the game down. When it does go to showdown it won't "save time"' as the same count will be made either way. So to review......when showdown, same. When no showdown, it slows the game.
In instances where there was not a showdown, there was no call to the all-in bet so....
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:45 AM   #15
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Very cold in the room due to there being doors directly opening up to outside at the back of the room. Even with the doors closed and blocked off from opening, there is a noticeable draft in the room. They should really try to plug the draft coming from the bottom of the doors as it's pretty uncomfortable right now.
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:46 AM   #16
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Tried to play a 25/50 last night but no tables, so played 1/3 for a hour and then left. Are the big games going to go before I head back west?
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:19 AM   #17
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I get the excitement and all but to say the rule doesn't slow the game down is ridiculous. Every "all-in" isn't going to go to showdown which will absolutely slow the game down. When it does go to showdown it won't "save time"' as the same count will be made either way. So to review......when showdown, same. When no showdown, it slows the game.
I don't think you're talking about what you think you're talking about.

The rule being discussed here is that if someone goes all-in, and someone else calls by throwing in a single chip, then the pot will be made correct BEFORE more cards are dealt, meaning the caller will have to push forward the required chips.

This is not related to counting the all-in stack which may or may not happen depending on the players facing the action of the all-in player.
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:20 AM   #18
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JG first and foremost Congratulations!

Now that the room is open and operational the Bravo needs to be updated.

It still shows the old information from the soft opening.
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:25 AM   #19
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Please give an example of an all-in being called but doesn't go to showdown, because I just don't get it.
Ok it's not just me. Maybe I explained incorrectly
Was part of and witnessed numerous all ins. People tanked, asked the dealer what the count was, etc. Once they made a decision and said call, all of the main pots and side pots were established and then the dealer ran out the cards or the players flipped. The dealer then slid the respective pot(s) to the winning players.

The time spent establishing the pots BEFORE running the cards or players flipping is the same time that would have been spent asking the players for chip stacks to build the pots correctly and distribute after a 1 chip call

Therefore no real time difference from what I noticed. In fact once the hand was over, it was easier and faster to move on to the next hand.
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:27 AM   #20
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"Running it twice is permitted in raked games." does this mean you can run it twice ever at 1/2? explaining to those people what that option is is going to be torture.

any idea who has to show first at showdown? closest to the button or last aggressor?

$2 per pot going to the bad beat jackpot is BRUTAL. is MDL that way too? that would be enough to make me play elsewhere, given the option.
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:35 AM   #21
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"Running it twice is permitted in raked games." does this mean you can run it twice ever at 1/2? explaining to those people what that option is is going to be torture.
I think it is supposed to read "Running it twice is permitted in time-raked games."
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:38 AM   #22
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"Running it twice is permitted in raked games." does this mean you can run it twice ever at 1/2? explaining to those people what that option is is going to be torture.

any idea who has to show first at showdown? closest to the button or last aggressor?

$2 per pot going to the bad beat jackpot is BRUTAL. is MDL that way too? that would be enough to make me play elsewhere, given the option.


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I think it is supposed to read "Running it twice is permitted in time-raked games."
Angus is correct; thanks for the heads up. I fixed the typo.

As for the $2 BBJ drop, best of luck trying to find somewhere cheaper.
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:48 AM   #23
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As for the $2 BBJ drop, best of luck trying to find somewhere cheaper.
Without spending more than a half second in thought I can list Borgata, Foxwoods, and Mohegan Sun.

It is what the market ultimately decides as all of FL I believe is $2 and Live! set the $2 bar early on as this mid-Atlantic market developed.
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:49 AM   #24
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Johnny, can you confirm mlife will match borgata black label?

That would also essentially mean anyone with a cesaers diamond could match also because borgata matches diamond with black label. Then you could match black label to m life
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:53 AM   #25
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Looking forward to visiting this room this weekend. What is with this crazy $5+2 nonsense? All I have ever seen is $4+1. Foxwoods, Borgata, Aria, Bellagio, all the first class casinos, $4 rake since I started playing poker.
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