This happens more than you think…

They were running a ballet business that probably blew up. Had to hire people. They were in ballet not in finance.

But ya it seemed like an easy catch if they did 2 seconds of checking

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I also find it hard to lose that much at live poker when the biggest game there is what a 2.5k cap at mgm or something that is spread regularly?

That’s a lot of Max buyins…

She had to be playing black Jack or baccarat or something

Slots. My bet is on slots. Middle aged women are the best slot customers for the casino and I am not saying this because I am stereotyping, I was in a game with a casino employee a couple of years ago and he was telling me this.

Oh ya good call was probably high limit slots where she could fly under the radar and punt thousands in privacy

You assume she actually punted the money off. She may have simply pocketed the cash.

This is what I thought as well - run a CC transaction for 5k and roll out?

But is there seriously *no* expectation of MGM stepping in at some point? 330+ transactions in less than 9 months totaling over $1M?

Look, I'm not naive, I know MGM is in the business of screwing its customers out of their money as fast as possible. But man it feels like there was a line somewhere that they left far in the dust.

Also says that the non-profit had *zero* other supervision for that amount of cash? No one else reading statements, not one single person looked at one document?

The whole thing is bizarre on so many levels.

I know of a case where a person retired early and then via his gambling addiction dropped mid seven figures 401K between a smallish casino and a horse track in less than three years. There are many more facts I need to preclude here but it all ended with him tragically committing suicide. The gambling losses were but one fact but a significant part of this tradgedy.

The point is the casino and track, not large entities, took this cash at a similar or greater rate than MGMNH. Without any other flags, these kinds of losses can easily happen. Note I am not saying any of these casinos did anything wrong.

I'm not either - and again, its just an odd case. I guess one way to look at it is that if a guy comes in and dumps $5M on the baccarat tables in a single night - the casino wont do anything either.

Possible…

But I’m going to assume the entire scheme was degen behavior.

Why would you take money out of high fee casino atms?

The entire pattern of behavior screams degeneracy.. also no one lives at the casino so at a minimum she traveled to get there passing multiple other atms.

Unless you guys are saying it was her only way to cash advance and go above withdrawal limits then you might have something. But most normal people don’t even realize you can get way more off your card at a casino than a normal atm. Seems like something only us degens know about.

Also if she stole the money and still had it wouldn’t she just pay it back to get out of it?

I’m kinda feeling naive just saying that bc since I’m not a criminal I would immediately undue any criminal behavior. I know enough about law that if there’s no damages most likely you’re going to avoid punishment.

But maybe criminals are on that Bury that money over seas trip…

Just seems like she wasn’t a smart criminal and this wasn’t some genius operation

1. Doing the transactions at a casino is better cover. Specifically for some of the reasons stated. Much easier to say I gambled it away and more difficult to disprove. If I don’t lose it gambling where did the cash go? Either I still have it or I bought something. If I bought something then I have those assets. If I am willing to serve my time and have the cash afterward gambling is a cover. And getting the money at a casino supports that cover.

2. Giving the money back does not make anything go away. If it did then everyone would embezzle since it would be a free toll. Take the money and if no one notices keep it. If I get caught just give it back. No harm no foul. Just doesn’t work that way.


3. You know even less about the law the you think you do. Great I got everything back may get your sentence reduced but you are still going to be convicted. And even reduced sentence is not guaranteed. Especially for a repeat offender.

In no way am I saying she was smart. Most criminals are not smart or not acting smartly. The smarter ones are those who don’t get caught or at least takes longer.

But we don’t have any evidence the cash was gambled away not

With only the facts you provided why should casino do anything. What if that guy was Bill Gates or Elon Musk?

You could be right.. but the behavior doesn’t make sense why would you do multiple transactions. Wouldn’t you go for gold? W that many transactions she literally had to be lol donking small buy ins somehow.

She had to assume the large paper trail was a bad idea right?

I’ve heard criminals want to get caught. I’m going w it’s as simple as she’s a degen donk and kept chasing her losses.

I just wanna know what was her game of choice…

i thought md law says you can only withdraw $2.5k max per day at the casino.

i tested that theory a few years ago and it was true.
(my bank reimburses atm fees.)

i upped the withdraw limit on my debit card to $3k.
i withdraw $2.5k.
then got denied with withdrawing $500 more at the same atm.
i even went to a different atm at mgm and still got denied.

edit:
unless she withdraw at the cashier cage?

What's the deal with the 25/50 NL game!? Seems to run at completely random times (Tuesday evening, Thursdays sometimes, Sat nights into Sunday mornings, etc). And usually no list and then game is full with 10 people on the wait list 20 minutes later. Is it a certain group that plays? Or a "group" that waits for 1-2 whales to play and that's why the wait list jumps so quick?

It's a group that plan it out and get together to play with each other at prescheduled times. MGM staff help them with that. While it's technically an open game, they try to structure their play times so people not in their group (specifically more pros) can't easily join their game. I believe they do it at MD Live as well.

Does anyone know if today is one of those days when it is impossible to find parking?

This makes total sense based off of Bravo. Thank you for clarifying!

fyi: the 8oz crabcake at food court increased $4 to $29.

looks like 9 chicken fingers for $20 is the best bang for the buck.
comes with fries. They are HUGE. can probably last you 2 meals.
but SALTY. wonder if you can ask no salt?

and i haven't seen the new bbq place thats replacing the taco place open yet.

Question for folks who have played at various poker venues over time: have you noticed any differences in the player pool in terms of player demeanor (friendliness, negativity, etc.) here versus other casinos?

It’s not them it’s you if that’s what your asking. I’ve played in over 100 different casinos and mgmnh players are graded A+ for demeanor

I know what you are saying and I agree the DC area in general has better demeanor than most other locals, but I would never give an A+ grade to poker players in terms of behavior or civility.

We’re being graded on a curve here. Mgmnh is top ranked. Name a place where the behavior is better, there aren’t many I can think of

canterbury in minnesota is fair competition. But yes, MGM is far better than the LA clubs, Vegas, or Atlantic City.

My worst experiences have all been in AC that place wreaks of desperation

Man, sitting here with all 3 tables of 2/5 having someone at the table with mask below nose and mouth. One dude keeps clearing his throat into his hand and then touching all his chips, would be gross during non covid times, forget covid im gonna get pink eye lol

Never had a big issue with it before, i know it was maskless for a while which was also fine but man, seems like a good time to be more vigilant while the delta variant is raging and those of us with pfizer havent had an opportunity to get the booster yet. I guess good news is a month or two from now i wont give a **** again.

I heard them ytd make an announcement that they’d be handing out 24 hour bans for not having mask covering nose/mouth.