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I will be out for a few weeks and won’t be answering questions on the page. One of my guys may check in from time to time. My wife and I are having our first child tomorrow, so wish me luck!

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01-14-2019 , 06:18 PM

#5377

DumbosTrunk

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The recent discussion of tier credits got me thinking about a conversation I overheard at the table. Some visiting pro said he used his comps towards a room. Am I missing something? I play a whole lot but have always been under the impression that we can't apply poker comps towards amenities other than food.

Anyone think they know the reason for this apparent discrepancy?

Also, when you get back Johnny, why doesn't MGMNH do like Borgata and offer free rooms to its best customers?

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01-14-2019 , 07:23 PM

#5378

DCJ001

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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk

The recent discussion of tier credits got me thinking about a conversation I overheard at the table. Some visiting pro said he used his comps towards a room. Am I missing something? I play a whole lot but have always been under the impression that we can't apply poker comps towards amenities other than food.

Anyone think they know the reason for this apparent discrepancy?

Also, when you get back Johnny, why doesn't MGMNH do like Borgata and offer free rooms to its best customers?

MGM National Harbor has about 300 hotel rooms, Borgata has about 2000 hotel rooms.

It’s a supply versus demand issue.

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01-14-2019 , 07:59 PM

#5379

Howard Treesong

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr

This is my point. Saying $10K per month comes in from tourney promo funds is being very vague. How much goes out per month? Are the tourney and cash game promo funds kept segregated? Are cash game promo funds used to pay tourney overlays when there isnt enough tourney promo money to cover it so the room doesnt lose money?

Im pretty sure I already know the answers to these questions which is why I said using promo money to cover tourney overlays is a horrible and unfair practice.

LOL, no good deed goes unpunished.

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01-14-2019 , 10:34 PM

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GolfPro

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Originally Posted by Rapini

A lawsuit for "legal hassle and the emotional/mental trauma" if the amount owed has been paid will not go far. But I guess if your goal is to keep the court system clogged with frivolous lawsuits, that's a good way to proceed.

MGM will pay, because I believe it is their clerical error.

As a 2+2 blog that caters to customers/patrons, what do you think the customer should do in this case? Keep quite because they got paid?

I am assuming the jackpot is not high enough, my assumption is based on the fact she only got $200 in free slot play. I am pretty sure the paper work/time she has to go through to get paid is far more than $200 in free slot play. The fact that she has to go through this additional trouble due to clerical error on MGM’s part is not fair to the customer.

Last edited by GolfPro; 01-14-2019 at 10:42 PM.

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01-15-2019 , 01:39 AM

#5381

Rapini

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Originally Posted by GolfPro

The woman should get paid what she's owed. She also got comps for the screw-up, which was nice of MGMNH.

You said she should bring an additional lawsuit after that for exactly what I quoted. That's absurd. At least it seems like you're backing off that absurd position because you didn't mention it again in the above post.

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01-15-2019 , 01:44 AM

#5382

Howard Treesong

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Rapini, check your PMs.

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01-15-2019 , 10:12 AM

#5383

BMoreE

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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk

why doesn't MGMNH do like Borgata and offer free rooms to its best customers?

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Originally Posted by DCJ001

It’s a supply versus demand issue.

Right and... perhaps they do, but the "best customers" line is wayyyy higher due to supply? I'd venture if you're dropping $2k-$5k per hand in the pits then maybe they'll find you a room.

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01-15-2019 , 01:18 PM

#5384

GolfPro

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Originally Posted by Rapini

I don’t get a feeling you are going to offer/mention any corrective action on behlaf of MGM. You seem to be happy that they offered the free play. If offering free play for their mistakes is acceptable, where is the incentive for improvement or minimizing their error.

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01-15-2019 , 02:19 PM

#5385

Bridgeboy

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Originally Posted by GolfPro

This comes from the upper managers on down the line in the form of lectures on taking away from the bottom line.

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01-15-2019 , 02:31 PM

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AngusThermopyle

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The woman got her money.

Handed to her by the Vice President of Slot Operations.

Article doesn't say how/if the casino got the money back from Maryland’s Human Services agency.

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01-15-2019 , 03:25 PM

#5387

Rapini

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Originally Posted by GolfPro

The mistake cost MGMNH time, effort, and money in addition to the freeplay expected value. Or did you think that MGMNH just threw up its hands when the error was discovered and moved on as if nothing happened?

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01-15-2019 , 03:41 PM

#5388

GolfPro

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Thanks Angus for the update.

You are right Rapini from reading the artice, as written and posted, MGM threw up their hands once the error was discovered.

I guess it is a mute point now as she got paid by VP Slot Machines.

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01-15-2019 , 07:23 PM

#5389

Hunt4Sky

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Originally Posted by JenSoSorry

Looking forward to visiting this room this weekend. What is with this crazy $5+2 nonsense? All I have ever seen is $4+1. Foxwoods, Borgata, Aria, Bellagio, all the first class casinos, $4 rake since I started playing poker.

Borgata is time raked for as long as I can remember.

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01-15-2019 , 08:10 PM

#5390

Eponymous

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Originally Posted by Hunt4Sky

Borgata is time raked for as long as I can remember.

Not for the lower stakes games like 1/2NL.

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01-15-2019 , 08:12 PM

#5391

DCJ001

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Originally Posted by JenSoSorry

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Originally Posted by Hunt4Sky

Borgata is time raked for as long as I can remember.

I am pretty sure that he is talking about one dollar/3 dollars no limit at MGMNH, and you appear to be talking about two dollars/5 dollars no limit and higher at Borgata.

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01-16-2019 , 02:27 PM

#5392

arkitekt83

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

Congrats!!!

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01-17-2019 , 12:08 AM

#5393

Tomark

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I would suggest that anyone who runs into an issue like this consult a licensed attorney about potential compensation for damages incurred rather than internet wizards talking out their ass about what is and isnt absurd.

Everyone arguing about the guarantees coming out of the BBJ, thats been discussed already, and Johnny changed the procedure to make it fairer to cash game players. As an exclusive cash game player, I am happy with the solution.

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01-18-2019 , 01:47 AM

#5394

DCJ001

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Just announced on Twitter:

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MGMNH Poker 9:15am-3:15pm we are bringing back our Lucky Table promo!!! That’s right $300 Lucky Table promo is back on Fridays for the rest of the month!!!!!

https://twitter.com/MGMNH_Poker/stat...36789734174720

Is this in addition to, or instead of, the Friday promo that is stated at Bravo?

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FRIDAYS

12:15AM – 9:15AM
$250 LATE NIGHT HIGH HANDS (EVERY HOUR)

10:15AM – 8:15PM
10 x $200 HOT SEATS (EVERY HOUR)

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01-18-2019 , 11:35 AM

#5395

GolfPro

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Originally Posted by DCJ001

Just announced on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/MGMNH_Poker/stat...36789734174720

Is this in addition to, or instead of, the Friday promo that is stated at Bravo?

Thank God!

I hated the 5 lucky seat promo every half-hour.

I guess if they want they can change the promo midway in a month. That is nice to know.

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01-18-2019 , 12:04 PM

#5396

W0X0F

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Originally Posted by GolfPro

Thank God!

I hated the 5 lucky seat promo every half-hour.

I guess if they want they can change the promo midway in a month. That is nice to know.

Yes! All praise the invisible guy in the sky for straightening out MGM's promotions!

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01-18-2019 , 09:35 PM

#5397

Tomark

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well it isnt Johnny, he is out hanging out with his new kid, so by process of elimination, who else could it be?

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01-18-2019 , 10:51 PM

#5398

JohnnyGroomsTD

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Poker Ops manager Adam Boone and the shift managers....

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01-19-2019 , 06:15 PM

#5399

potluckneeded2

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Originally Posted by W0X0F

Yes! All praise the invisible guy in the sky for straightening out MGM's promotions!

If that works for you, cool, but I'll pass.

I'm only weekend player, I'm curious, are we getting a few shortdeck cash tables running during the week?

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01-19-2019 , 10:47 PM

#5400

loonybird

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Originally Posted by potluckneeded2

If that works for you, cool, but I'll pass.

I'm only weekend player, I'm curious, are we getting a few shortdeck cash tables running during the week?

Sporadically

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