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10-09-2018 , 05:07 PM
Johnny,

Why can't players run it more than once in $1/$2 five-card?

I know it's not a time-raked game, but the pots are massive - as big if not bigger than those in time-raked $5/$10 games. The "$1/$2" title is somewhat deceptive; it plays like a $5/$5 because the bring in is $5.

In a game with as much variance as PLO, many players (especially those without deep pockets) want to run it more than once....

Thanks!

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 10-09-2018 at 05:24 PM.
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10-09-2018 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Johnny,

Why can't players run it more than once in $1/$2 five-card?

I know it's not a time-raked game, but the pots are massive - as big if not bigger than those in time-raked $5/$10 games. The "$1/$2" title is somewhat deceptive; it plays like a $5/$5 because the bring in is $5.

In a game with as much variance as PLO, many players (especially those without deep pockets) want to run it more than once....

Thanks!
You answered your own question, even if you did so inadvertently: from the house's perspective, running it twice wastes time in a pot rake game. So unless/until the game switches to time rake, there won't be any running it twice.
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10-11-2018 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Johnny,

Why can't players run it more than once in $1/$2 five-card?

I know it's not a time-raked game, but the pots are massive - as big if not bigger than those in time-raked $5/$10 games. The "$1/$2" title is somewhat deceptive; it plays like a $5/$5 because the bring in is $5.

In a game with as much variance as PLO, many players (especially those without deep pockets) want to run it more than once....

Thanks!
Everyone always seems to be in favor of allowing run it twice in games so I'll give a contrarian opinion. It takes forever to deal with people discussing indefinitely about whether or not they run it twice and it takes the dealer a while to split the pots with so many reds/small chips. 1/2 big pots are usually 3 people + anyways so you can't RIT then anyways.
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10-11-2018 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Johnny,

Why can't players run it more than once in $1/$2 five-card?

I know it's not a time-raked game, but the pots are massive - as big if not bigger than those in time-raked $5/$10 games. The "$1/$2" title is somewhat deceptive; it plays like a $5/$5 because the bring in is $5.

In a game with as much variance as PLO, many players (especially those without deep pockets) want to run it more than once....

Thanks!
If you want to reduce your variance stay home.
"the pots are massive" isn't an incentive for casinos to lose money in a rake game by allowing this nonsense.
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10-11-2018 , 06:42 PM
Just coming on to say that I was in DC earlier this week and found a couple of chances to hit up MGM. Love the room! Was mainly playing 5/5 5 card PLO. The action was good and love the huge $2500 cap. The room is nice, good drinks service, dealers seemed fine. Probably my favorite casino I've been to on my travels, so keep up the good work!
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10-11-2018 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
If you want to reduce your variance stay home.
+1. Poker was meant to be run once.
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10-12-2018 , 11:57 PM
I was thinking this evening as we had 3 players that were continuously buying in for $100 that it would be so nice to have like a 2-3 game with a $200-$500 buy in. There is just so much difference in the 1-3 games depending on what game you are in. You have some tables with 7-8k on them at all times but then some games where everyone is short stacked. I wouldn’t mind a nice middle ground between 1-3 and 2-5 since the 2-5 is so big at MGM. I don’t know if it would garner enough interest but it’s just a thought.


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10-13-2018 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
I was thinking this evening as we had 3 players that were continuously buying in for $100 that it would be so nice to have like a 2-3 game with a $200-$500 buy in. There is just so much difference in the 1-3 games depending on what game you are in. You have some tables with 7-8k on them at all times but then some games where everyone is short stacked. I wouldn’t mind a nice middle ground between 1-3 and 2-5 since the 2-5 is so big at MGM. I don’t know if it would garner enough interest but it’s just a thought.


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Which game do you think the players who continuously bought in for $100 would play?
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10-13-2018 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Which game do you think the players who continuously bought in for $100 would play?


I would just convert a handful of 1-3 tables. Have something that plays similar to Bellagio 2-5 if people wanted a bigger $500 cap game.


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10-13-2018 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
I would just convert a handful of 1-3 tables. Have something that plays similar to Bellagio 2-5 if people wanted a bigger $500 cap game.


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You didn't answer my question though.
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10-13-2018 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
You didn't answer my question though.


I would assume they would stay at 1-3.


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10-13-2018 , 01:17 AM
for argument’s sake, 1 or more 1/3 200-500 games would run concurrent to the 1/2 at MDL pre-MGM pretty consistently during any prime-ish times. same thing at Sugarhouse in Philly, both with 2/5 games as well.

i’m not sure 2/3 200-500 differentiates enough from 1/3 to have the same success though, and from the room’s perspective $100 buyin players get pots to $50 at 1/3 as it stands just as well as anyone
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10-13-2018 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
I would assume they would stay at 1-3.


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So then what's the point of having a 2/3?
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10-13-2018 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomark
0 of the 2 total toilets have toilet paper right now.
7:11pm yesterday: out of paper towel in the men's room and the attendant is nowhere to be seen
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10-13-2018 , 09:33 AM
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7:11pm yesterday: out of paper towel in the men's room and the attendant is nowhere to be seen
Did you make a poker supervisor or shift manager aware?
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10-13-2018 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
So then what's the point of having a 2/3?


To have a game where there aren’t players buying in for $100.


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10-13-2018 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Which game do you think the players who continuously bought in for $100 would play?
How about a 1/1 blind spread limit game? Bets could be $5-$25 pre flop/flop and $5-$50 on the turn/river? This could pair up well with our shot clocks...
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10-13-2018 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
To have a game where there aren’t players buying in for $100.
Play 2/5.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
How about a 1/1 blind spread limit game? Bets could be $5-$25 pre flop/flop and $5-$50 on the turn/river? This could pair up well with our shot clocks...
What's broken about the 1/3 game?
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10-13-2018 , 10:47 AM
Dude seriously I was just throwing out an idea. I don’t know why you have to always be so condescending. I thought this forum was supposed to be for open discussion about things we would like to see in the poker room. Instead it has just become a place to ***** about there being no toilet paper in the bathroom.






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10-13-2018 , 11:35 AM
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How about a 1/1 blind spread limit game? Bets could be $5-$25 pre flop/flop and $5-$50 on the turn/river? This could pair up well with our shot clocks...
I would get behind a 1/1 or true 1/2 PLO game. Current smallest PLO games are just not accessible for players new to the game.

I know not likely to happen, but one can dream.

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10-13-2018 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD
Did you make a poker supervisor or shift manager aware?
No, I did not
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10-13-2018 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
Dude seriously I was just throwing out an idea. I don’t know why you have to always be so condescending.
+1.

(However I also dont like your idea, and the shorties who keep rebuying for $100 are free money. Usually at least one of em quadruples up and gets juicy at some point as well. Also you can ask for a table change)
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10-13-2018 , 03:57 PM
The 1/2 5 card PLO buy-ins need to be changed imo. The bring is is $5

In comparison the 5/5 PLO is $500 - $2500 so it's a min buy in of 100BB and max buy in of 500BB.

I played it a few times and players would come in with $200 and just pot it every hand until they lost maybe $1000 and leave or they win a big pot and hit and run.

The game plays bigger than 2/5 but the min buy in is 40BB and max buy in is capped at 140BB

I suggest you change the buy in so it's $300 - $1000 or change the bring in so it's a true 1/2 game.

That way they have to put in at least 60BB if they are gonna do a shove any 5 strategy. It's not always like this, but the time I played the other day you couldn't see a flop for less than $200 and if you did see a flop, you had almost no money behind. The equities run so close pre flop that a lot of the post flop play is taken out of the game.
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10-13-2018 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
Dude seriously I was just throwing out an idea. I don’t know why you have to always be so condescending. I thought this forum was supposed to be for open discussion about things we would like to see in the poker room. Instead it has just become a place to ***** about there being no toilet paper in the bathroom.






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+100


On another note, I have admittedly thought the air fumes complaint was unsubstantiated the past 4-5 times I've played here but today I'm seated near Snacks and it is actually noticeable and not very pleasant.
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10-13-2018 , 07:39 PM
Hate to continue the complaint, but the corridor from the bar to the bathroom smells like a mix of food/pizza, cleaning products, and lingering bathroom odors. Hope this is just an off day.
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