Call ins for games that already get an 80 name list are counter productive. Most common experieice for me is that the list gets clogged with call ins and it takes much longer to fill seats. I want players that are ready to sit down and play to have the ability to do so...

You guys are barking up the wrong tree with the call-ins. I'm not saying it can't be problematic in minor situations.

In my experiences, mainly with plo, people want to be one two three or four different lists and because the tables are so spread out it's hard for the players and floor to communicate it makes for longer slower lists.

I would say a majority of the players getting called for plo are already seated and probably don't want the seat but the tables are so spread out it's difficult to communicate with the floor. This and the table jumpers make for very long waits and me not interested in coming to play until the new room opens.

The only temporary solution I can think of is asking the players if they would like to have their names taken off any of the lists when they sit but the floor is so swamped it's difficult for them to do much with the situation.

isn’t that why the call-in players have the phone icon on Bravo and then it goes away when they checkin? if there were only 5 phone players on a list and a empty seat, isn’t the player physically at the brush who is ready to sit down and play getting that seat anyways?

i wouldn’t even mind if you had to sign up in person but could be placed at the top of the list for the next hour, not being called until you come back within that hour.

can’t tell you how many times i’ve come in the evening, hustle to the brush, no list, go to the restroom or step outside for a minute since it’s preferable for the game to do so beforehand, then come back 5 mins later and there’s 9 people on the list.

Guess I shouldn't post before my morning coffee—sorry.

--klez

I also notice that the cleaning crew has started to spend their time handing out paper towels and soliciting tips instead of cleaning. The cleanliness has started to degrade noticeably when this is going on, much like when the same thing happened at Maryland Live.

I'm with Rapini on this one. I play this tournament a couple of times a month and it can finish late as it is. It's sort of silly to have breaks after both level four and level five, but adding a dinner break would be painful. Add the shake shack app to your phone and time your order for one of the existing breaks.

Callins are an overall net positive for the Poker Room and the players pool in general. How often you see ppls put name on the list and after the room supervisor call for the game it's a no go, but with ppls who callins are guarantee that the game will happen. Peoples who callins don't get priority if they are not at the casino when the game go off.

Any chance you guys can fix the metal railings in the high stakes area? I cut myself Saturday night using the railings while I walked around and down the ramp. Some of them are pretty much knives due to the bent metal. I had to fill out some paper work with a security guard afterwards too.

Yes.

Callins adjust the order of the queue.
(they also possibly, theoretically, provide a help in forecasting very near-term room demand)

They don't do anything else.

Every seat is filled by someone who can hear the brush. Callins can affect which person (from the pool who can hear the brush) gets the seat. If someone benefits due to a callin, they win and some other person(s) loses by an equivalent amount.

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

You and apparently everyone else.

I would take it as a sign that other people in the thread/forum know what they are talking about. Just something to mull over.

Just chiming in to once again state that it is laughable that you can't view a complete and current waitlist within the Bravo app.

I haven't been to MGM in quite a while and this is a huge reason. To me, it's unreasonable to expect customers to throw their name on a list and either mill about the casino indefinitely or sit around the poker room waiting to be called. Even if you are content donating money to the casino on the tables while waiting, it's annoying to be continually guessing where you are on the list.

This would be entirely different if I could go to the outlets, checkout National Harbor or explore other facets of the area with a clear idea of when I needed to be back at the poker room.

I have no doubt that MGM pulls ample players but you're losing at least some business from people who refuse to sit around the exterior of the poker room for extended periods of time.

Yeah this is my biggest issue with the room. I don’t know if it’s a Bravo issue or a room issue but being able to see a live list on your phone would be amazing.


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I believe Bravo won't show the list with names on the app for privacy reasons. A workaround would be logging in to the app and seeing just where your name is on the list and "*****" for the other names.

Much of this issue will be addressed when we open our new room. Unfortunately, we don’t have the capacity we need on many days.

My take on callins:

I travel 2 hours to a poker room. Whether going to foxwoods or borgata from ny.

Both allow callins for high limit games. Working slightly differently.

Both are from my perspective better than no call in.

At foxwoods, the callin has a spot in line, but is inactive for up to an hour. If you dont chk in within the hour, they may delete or 'activate' i dont remeber which.

When im about 45 minutes out I call and get put on list. If i would've been called but i havent chked in, when you chk in within the hour you are first or second up.. Once you chk in, you are in your natural spot, though people whom might have called in ahead of you will go in front if they show b4 being called.

This is important to me because im driving 2 hours to get there, and i shouldnt have to 1st get on a list and wait another hour plus to get in. People stay in these games, there arent many tables, so turnover is low... Ive been 4th on list and have had to wait 2+ hours - not fun. Because of the chk in requirement, floor doesnt call your name if you havent chkd in, so it doesnt slow down getting seats filled.

Borgata not nearly as optimal from my perspective. They allow you to call in, but your name is active, they will call your name & wait and erase if you have not checked in. This results in the longer ass-in-seat fill times as they call names of phone-in not in room. It also means I cant call-in far in advance as my name likely is gone b4 I show up. So for borgata i tend to phone in when i'm about 20 minutes out.

Now my perspective is not everyone's perspective, it must be disheartening for somone to wonder into foxwoods room, think they're. 2nd up, and 30 minutes later two callins that registered ahead of the person, checkin and are ahead. But is it different if they showed up in the room, registered and walked???

Now while the foxwoods system may seem like a pain, in both cases they use bravo and it us handled by the system. The brush may have some different buttons to push, but the callin times, and callin activation funtionality is all in the system....

Neither room does this for high turnover, lower limit games too my knowledge...

Part of the issue IMO is Bravo's ****ty system. AFAIK they have a monopoly on addressing this market need, and, as a result, don't seem to feel the need to invest in improving their products.

When exactly would you come back? Sometimes they roll through the list 10-15 names at a clip if they have tables open up. I feel like this is what happens sometimes with the 5-5 game when we try to call a new game. We get 15 names on the list and then 4 guys sit down at the table, 5 are in other games and 6 are nowhere to be found in the room. Probably checking out the Coach outlet.

I 100% agree its not optimal right now. But I dont really want people wandering around a mall either when it might take them a while to get back. If you're "checking out National Harbor" - you could be 15-20 minutes away from being in a seat.

This is a good question and one I'm not sure what the best answer is. That said, I wonder if it might make sense to kick players who don't show up within a certain period of time onto a secondary list, which would give them somewhat of a grace period. Keep them there for an hour or so before they are removed completely. Once they let the attendant know they are ready, throw them back on the main list 10 or so down the queue and ask them to mill around for what then becomes a reasonable period of time.

I feel like even though this sounds somewhat complicated, it actually shouldn't be that hard to design/coordinate.

Even if they made it unfeasible for people to actually leave the property (by going with a single list and a short holding time), so many people would appreciate the ability to get a drink/smoke or play a few table games instead of being forced to continually walk back to the poker room with 0 clue whether they are first or 50th on the list.

Posted in High Stakes PLO forum but since MGM NH has become the new home of high stakes 5 card PLO, this may be interesting. Link is below FYI.

It poses a Q to find a hand with the highest possible number of nut outs you can be drawing to in 5 card PLO after the turn. There are two posts--first with 23 nut outs and then one with 24 nut outs. Can anyone come up with a hand with more?

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1.../#post53758673

WSOP Satellite?

Johnny,

For the second year running, Horseshoe Baltimore is not running satellites to the WSOP Main Event. They ran a two-step satellite in 2016 that was very well attended.

Could MGM fill that gap? I realize that "WSOP" is a Caesar's brand but you could call it a satellite to the "Big One" or some such thing like they do for the super bowl, and just award cash instead of an actual seat.

The steps could be something like:

• Step 1: 110 + 20
• Step 2: 1000 + 100

With maybe 1 in 11 winning $11,000 or 1 in 12 winning $12,000 to cover the ME seat and a little travel money.

Is there any possibility that this could happen in June?

Is there any support for this among the players? If so, please chime in here so Johnny can gauge demand.

Thanks,
Loony

I would play but would want it to start ASAP (in May) because I'm leaving town May 30.

Very unlikely that we would run something like that. More likely we would run something for the Aria Classic or a Bellagio Cup.

Yeah I dont see why they would promote a "rival event" when they could run something for say the WPT Five Diamond at Bellagio.

Aria or Bellagio satellites would be great

Wishful thinking!

Bellagio would be good too.