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03-07-2016 , 10:47 AM

#226

Didace

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 20,391

Quote:

Originally Posted by AA Suited

I would like to see SnG's with low rake.
ie: $109 for a $100 10player SNG? (top3 paid: 50%, 30%, 20%)

And I'd like a pony. Neither one is going to happen.

03-07-2016 , 10:52 AM

#227

JohnnyGroomsTD

Poker Room Rep

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,885

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAFFYMAN

Mr grooms, could you please tell us how many tables you'll have at mgm poker room? Will there be a separate area for tournaments?

This is TBD. I can tell you it is somewhere between 23 and 52... 😜

03-07-2016 , 10:53 AM

#228

JohnnyGroomsTD

Poker Room Rep

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,885

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didace

And I'd like a pony. Neither one is going to happen.

Come to think of it, I'd like a pony too.

Seriously, I won't say no on the SNG's, but the cash game demand is so high here, it's difficult to imagine running SNGs that would compete for table space with less profitability.

03-07-2016 , 11:01 AM

#229

JohnnyGroomsTD

Poker Room Rep

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,885

Quote:

Originally Posted by MdlChld

Adding to that. What can we expect from a tournament perspective. I know theres still a long time to go before cards are in the air but could u give any insight into the type of tourneys u hope to run, how soon after the room opens do u hope to start tourneys, and is there gonna be room to run some larger events or series. I never made it to beau rivage but there always seemed to be a good event or series on their calendar for people in the mid stakes buy in range.

As far as daily events go, my management team and I will do an analysis of the market (once they are hired) and determine what events/types/buy ins will best suit the room. Our goal will be to fill the room with tournament tables when cash game demand is lower. Don't expect to see tournament during peak business hours.
As far as the major series go, all of that is TBD, but with my background and experience at hosting major events, you can certainly plan on a large event within a year of opening...

03-07-2016 , 11:18 AM

#230

AA Suited

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,252

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

profitability?
I thought mgm views the poker room the same as sports book... they're satisfied with breakeven.

just bring in people and hope they throw a $20 into a slot machine coming and/or leaving the room.

03-07-2016 , 11:29 AM

#231

hopesolo9

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 363

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

This is TBD. I can tell you it is somewhere between 23 and 52... 😜

52!!

03-07-2016 , 11:36 AM

#232

punkass

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 12,534

Seriously, give up the SnG dream.

03-07-2016 , 12:46 PM

#233

JohnnyGroomsTD

Poker Room Rep

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,885

Quote:

Originally Posted by AA Suited

I have worked for this company for about 11 years now, and that's the first I have heard of it.... LOL. Seriously, even if "they" were OK with break even, I am not. I do everything I can to give players what they want while maintaining profitability....

03-07-2016 , 01:29 PM

#234

ngrund

adept

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,058

Quote:

Originally Posted by AA Suited

I would like to see SnG's with low rake.
ie: $109 for a $100 10player SNG? (top3 paid: 50%, 30%, 20%)

Do you really think any casino can tie up a table for $90; if they did the structure would have to be starting stacks of 3BB, all in or fold

03-08-2016 , 04:02 PM

#235

dcmidnight

adept

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

As far as the major series go, all of that is TBD, but with my background and experience at hosting major events, you can certainly plan on a large event within a year of opening...

So giddy...

Having just gotten back from another trip to Vegas, the idea that a major MGM room is coming to the area is still beyond exciting for me. Aria/Bellagio continue to be the best of the best out there IMO.

03-08-2016 , 04:53 PM

#236

foobar

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,506

Meh. Have had pretty uniformly bad experiences w. Bellagio brush when trying to get seated in bigger games. Being from out of town there + not greasing them seems to be a bad combo for trying to get them to do their job.

03-09-2016 , 07:28 AM

#237

borg23

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 15,911

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcmidnight

The Bellagio has improved but it's still an awful place to play.

03-09-2016 , 09:17 AM

#238

BMoreE

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 259

Quote:

Originally Posted by borg23

The Bellagio has improved but it's still an awful place to play.

They have the best comp drinks though - Patron Margarita is no problem; just sit and post your blinds. Heck I can break even right there at a 4/8 table!

Unfortunately, MDs laws to protect us from ourselves will prevent this MGM from providing the same benefit... it's probably too much to hope for good value on drink prices (that we can use comps against) given the location.

Even MDLive seems to want to discourage drinking with their pricing - odd for a gaming establishment.

03-09-2016 , 09:36 AM

#239

Tr3y

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMoreE

I thought that I read comp drinks are good to go as long as a hotel was attached to the casino? .. If what I read was accurate, could bode well for MGM. I don't have a source, but it was around the time horseshoe opened.

03-09-2016 , 10:54 AM

#240

Rapini

ragging

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,096

I've never seen anyone post a link to a law that prohibits comped drinks. I did hear a rumor that MDL doesn't comp or have low prices on their drinks because they have an agreement with other businesses within Arundel Mills that they wouldn't undercut them on alcohol pricing.

03-09-2016 , 12:00 PM

#241

AA Suited

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,252

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapini

then whats Horseshoe's excuse?

03-09-2016 , 12:30 PM

#242

dcmidnight

adept

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887

Quote:

Originally Posted by AA Suited

then whats Horseshoe's excuse?

Or Rocky Gap?

03-09-2016 , 12:32 PM

#243

dcmidnight

adept

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887

Quote:

Originally Posted by borg23

The Bellagio has improved but it's still an awful place to play.

Will have to agree to disagree then because I've had 3 trips out there in the last 7 months and the 2/5 and 5/10 action has been sensational.

03-09-2016 , 12:43 PM

#244

RhodyGuy

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,392

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapini

There are laws on the books in many Midwestern states with Ohio the most recent to ban free drinks at commercial casinos led by Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

I'm sure a detailed search of the state laws would provide what you're looking for. I believe it is Ohio, Kansas, Missouri, Illinois, and Indiana who ban free drinks. I heard a rumor that Rhode Island has also interpreted a law on the books to ban it but cannot confirm.

03-09-2016 , 12:51 PM

#245

foobar

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,506

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcmidnight

Will have to agree to disagree then because I've had 3 trips out there in the last 7 months and the 2/5 and 5/10 action has been sensational.

We (or at least I) are taking about the way the room is run, not the action.

03-09-2016 , 01:06 PM

#246

Rapini

ragging

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,096

Quote:

Originally Posted by AA Suited

then whats Horseshoe's excuse?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcmidnight

Or Rocky Gap?

I don't know and I don't care. But if you happen to play at those places, ask them. It kinda feels like you're trying to make excuses for these places when the most likely scenario is they charge full price for drinks because that's what makes them the most money.

03-09-2016 , 01:07 PM

#247

Rapini

ragging

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,096

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhodyGuy

And still no one ever has posted a link to a Maryland law which prohibits free or reduced-price alcoholic beverages in casinos.

03-09-2016 , 01:08 PM

#248

Locked

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapini

As a former bartender, I can attest that it is (or was) indeed illegal to comp drinks in MD. Anyone that has received free drinks legally in Maryland can rest assured those drinks were rung up and paid in full. Typically by the bartender themselves or a split between management and bartenders.

Casino's I suppose could run a tab and still give free drinks, but the combination of alcohol, sales, and revenue taxes would probably make this a terrible decision.

03-09-2016 , 01:59 PM

#249

dcmidnight

adept

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapini

Then you definitely inserted meaning into my/our posts where there was none.

You postulated that there was rumor of an agreement with the mall as to why there were no free drinks. Two other people pointed out it was not just MDL that had this policy.

You think anyone in their right mind would defend a place like MDL charging $9 for a Corona or $6 for a Coors Light?

Really?