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Old 08-16-2010, 09:03 AM   #126
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Re: Meadows Poker Room - Washington PA

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Does anyone think these tourneys are even beatable after accounting for the fees and tips to the dealers? I know expert online turbo MTTSNG players have a pretty small ROI per tourney (<25%), since the fees are as much as 30% as opposed to 10% online can these even be beat? I know the players are awful and have no understanding of tournament stack sizes but does this really make up for the extra rake it's costing? I'm playing the 100+20 tonight (mostly because it's only a 20% fee) but it's probably barely +EV even though I'm confident I'd have one of the biggest edges on the field...

Acutlly a little less than 20% if you think of it like this...

Buy in is $120 and the casino takes $20 = ~16.67%
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:52 AM   #127
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did anyone play in the 7 card stud tourny they ran today?? and how was it
I played in it along with my 81 year old Dad. 28 people played and we finished 9th and 7th. It was an enjoyable tourny and it was cool to do something different.
It cost $55 with dealer add on and most of the players were older as you might expect. It was run well except for a few problems early on but once the dealers and players got adjusted it was fun. My dad really enjoyed it which was the main reason I played. I asked my table if they would come back and play again and everyone said yes.

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Old 08-16-2010, 10:01 AM   #128
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http://www.meadowsgaming.com/gaming.htm

theres a link to the tourney schedule (not sure if im allowed to put this here?, if so mods please delete).
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:06 AM   #129
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I was at the Meadows last night and confirmed that they are having a 1k single table tourney this coming Sunday night, 7pm. I am playing for sure. This is a nice way to seperate from the other local poker rooms. I am not sure but I don't think Rivers or Wheeling has offered 1k single table tourneys in the past. They are only accepting 10 players, call 412-498-8687 to guarantee your seat.
i called them and asked about this 1k buy in, guy seemed to have no clue.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:39 AM   #130
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Re: Meadows Poker Room - Washington PA

I second what pghdonkey said. I hope the Meadows stays somewhat popular. You can't compare it to the Rivers, though. The locations don't even compare. I think the Meadows is run alot better and seems to be more organized. I like it alot more than the Rivers Casino and will continue to play at the Meadows.

I have played in some of the smaller tourneys and the competition is very weak. Has anyone played in the Saturday afternoon tournament yet? 200 + 25 buy in plus a 25 dollar bounty. What's the competition like? I'm thinking about playing Saturday.

Oh yeah, and on a side note. They recently just started a bad beat jackpot. The last I heard, the hand you have to beat is aces full of jacks.
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Old 08-16-2010, 05:50 PM   #131
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It is a $225 that includes the $25 bounty. $25 to the house + $25 for your bounty + $175 into the pot.
What was the prize pool like? How many players? Did you get a lot of play out of your 10000 chips?
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:31 AM   #132
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im plannin on playin on the 28th in the 225 dollar one. i would go this saturday but im already goin to mountaineer and i have a commitment later on in the day.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:28 AM   #133
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They call it a "Deep Stack Grinder", I wouldn't call it that. You start out with 12k chips including the 2k for the $10 dealer add on. But I think the use of the word grinder is an over statement. The blinds are only 20 minutes and you start at 50/100 instead of 25/50. The 6th level is 100 antes and 600/1200 and that's before the first break. I'd like to see another 5-10 minutes per level, or add 150/300, 300/600 and 500/1000 levels. But as it is, it's just a normal daily tourney.
im givin it one chance, then im not playin in it again if it sucks. how many people did they get just outta curiousity??
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:11 AM   #134
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They call it a "Deep Stack Grinder", I wouldn't call it that. You start out with 12k chips including the 2k for the $10 dealer add on. But I think the use of the word grinder is an over statement. The blinds are only 20 minutes and you start at 50/100 instead of 25/50. The 6th level is 100 antes and 600/1200 and that's before the first break. I'd like to see another 5-10 minutes per level, or add 150/300, 300/600 and 500/1000 levels. But as it is, it's just a normal daily tourney.
Thank you so much, finally someone who agrees with me that even their "deep stack" tournaments move way to quickly. Levels are short, and blinds jump quickly including skipping from 400/800 with 100 ante to 600/1200 with 150 ante. Thats going from 2200 every time around the table to 3300 in one level, in the second hour!!! You are only starting with 12000 even with the add on, thats 25% of your stack to get around the table one time, WITHOUT EVEN PLAYING A HAND, in the second hour. GM you can say what you want, is $250 enough to expect some play for my money??? Unless you can double up in the first hour, which is hard because most people can at least hold it together that long and play tight, you will be short stacked before you really get a feel for your opponents. At that point post flop play is meaningless, you better be ready to push if you call with anything and you are not in the blinds.
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:49 AM   #135
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Thank you so much, finally someone who agrees with me that even their "deep stack" tournaments move way to quickly. Levels are short, and blinds jump quickly including skipping from 400/800 with 100 ante to 600/1200 with 150 ante. Thats going from 2200 every time around the table to 3300 in one level, in the second hour!!! You are only starting with 12000 even with the add on, thats 25% of your stack to get around the table one time, WITHOUT EVEN PLAYING A HAND, in the second hour. GM you can say what you want, is $250 enough to expect some play for my money??? Unless you can double up in the first hour, which is hard because most people can at least hold it together that long and play tight, you will be short stacked before you really get a feel for your opponents. At that point post flop play is meaningless, you better be ready to push if you call with anything and you are not in the blinds.
It doesn't appear it is much of a deep stack whatsoever. I will stick to cash games and the 50 + 15 tournies it looks like.

Can you redeem your player's club points with chips at the poker table? I still don't really get the benefits of your player's card.
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:08 AM   #136
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Re: Meadows Poker Room - Washington PA

That is a pretty reasonable buy in/rake.

I don't like how you can lose you bounties though all the way up to the final table (roughly).

The only bounty tourney I played in you could only lose your original bounty.
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:29 AM   #137
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What? If you bust you lose every bounty you collected? Purpose of a bounty tourny is to keep the bounties of everyone you bust and only lose your own once you bust.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:47 PM   #138
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What? If you bust you lose every bounty you collected? Purpose of a bounty tourny is to keep the bounties of everyone you bust and only lose your own once you bust.
That's what I thought, but I read somewhere (I am looking to find it) that said once you get down to the bubble person that's when you keep them.

I am hoping I read wrong or someone posted wrong but.....
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:03 PM   #139
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i saw quite a few cash out their bounties that didn't make the final table both Thursday and Saturday tournaments i don't know where anyone got the info you loose all them it's probably the same person that said Eric and Jamison where fighting and it almost came to blows which never happened i was there for that and it never even got close to even a verbal argument.
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:58 PM   #140
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Ok I am glad I was wrong.

So when you get knocked out you lose $25 and that's all

So is the total buy in $225 plus a dealer add on of $10?
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:56 PM   #141
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big tounry info at the meadows!!!! Supposed to run a 1000 dollar sit and go this weekend...... Labor day weekend a big 1000 dollar tourny. You can sign up now from what i hear. Supposed to bring in a lot of big names to play in this. You gotta call and speak to the manager to enter from what i understand
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:06 AM   #142
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Ok I am glad I was wrong.

So when you get knocked out you lose $25 and that's all

So is the total buy in $225 plus a dealer add on of $10?
Yes you loose "your" bounty chip when knocked out and you are right on with the buy-in, it's a great tournament I think, also Thursday nights are the mini bounty tournament it's pretty fun $65 + $5 dealer add-on $10 bounties.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:24 AM   #143
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big tounry info at the meadows!!!! Supposed to run a 1000 dollar sit and go this weekend...... Labor day weekend a big 1000 dollar tourny. You can sign up now from what i hear. Supposed to bring in a lot of big names to play in this. You gotta call and speak to the manager to enter from what i understand
id think they would be advertising this on the website. no one seems to know about this 1000 dollar sit n go, so i doubt it happens. labor day possibly, but why is it not on the website??
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:49 PM   #144
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pghdonkey

thanks donkey, im glad to see that meadows getting their act together a little bit concerning this. the fact they offer tournaments before rivers gives them at least some kinda leg up.

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Old 08-21-2010, 12:26 AM   #145
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Re: Meadows Poker Room - Washington PA

Headed down next friday for tournament, cash, and table games, any report from this weekend would be awesome.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:58 AM   #146
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Midnight Madness tourney was great need more people next time but a lot of fun was had, there is one held every Friday and Saturday night 12000 in starting chips and if the structure holds true just rising blinds no antes.

Also I was told that next Friday will be a $65 rebuy satellite tournament for the Labor day $1K classic that will be some fun but the labor day classic will be the best.
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Old 08-21-2010, 10:14 PM   #147
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Midnight Madness tourney was great need more people next time but a lot of fun was had, there is one held every Friday and Saturday night 12000 in starting chips and if the structure holds true just rising blinds no antes.

Also I was told that next Friday will be a $65 rebuy satellite tournament for the Labor day $1K classic that will be some fun but the labor day classic will be the best.
How many players were in midnight tourney? Do you know anything about the 7 pm tournament?
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:38 AM   #148
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Re: Meadows Poker Room - Washington PA

The 1k for this weekend could not get approved in time. The 1k on the 5th of Sept is a DONE DEAL!!!! Call the poker room and ask for Peter or Eric for the details. I was told blinds would be 25 mins with 20k in starting chips. This will be the first tourney in PA of this high of buy in, not including the underground games over the past 15 years. It looks like they will be having a super satellite with rebuys the day or two before this event. They also will be holding single table satellites for $120 on Sat Sept 4th, not sure of the start times.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:42 AM   #149
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Re: Meadows Poker Room - Washington PA

PLEASE CONFIRM OR DENY!!

I was told that the meadows is starting to comp the poker players food and drinks in the 5/10 NLH game while they are at the table. If this is the case, this could start to really draw some players. That is like saving $25-$40 per session, and most poker players that are serious look for ways to save.

Please let me know if anyone can confirm this.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:42 PM   #150
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I was there on Friday night from 9:30-12:30

I can answer 2 questions above.

First off the 12 tourney killed the table action and 3 tables were playing with about 6 people, I personally hated it.

2nd I played at the table right next to the 5/10 NL and I did hear them say their food and drinks were comped.

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