the turn out this last week hasn't been great but the Meadows had a bunch of special races and i sat in traffic for 30 minutes to get in the parking lot. i think that way have detered some of the regulars. but sat and sun night was good 2 2/5's both nights and a 5/10 on sat. I missed Friday night so i can't comment on that the 3/6 Omaha game was a blast on sat night i wish there was more players because once it got short it just went down hill quick. but i can't wait till the tournaments start!!

any kinda word on tournies here? im not coming back till i see one worth playing in.

Not spreading a rumor...relaying what I was told by multiple dealers and a few of the players that plan to play in it.

Either way, I was throwing it out there just for the hell of it. Why are either of you so concerned about it regarless if it happens or not? If you want it to happen so badly just start a list of interest.

Personally, I couldn't care less if it happens or not or whether it is a regular game or not...doesn't affect me one way or the other.

ru·mor [roo-mer] –noun 1. a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts: a rumor of war.

Guess I stand corrected - Oh wait!! lol
I'm not interested at all. Just thought I'd point out that the 25/50 NL game that everyone is talking about is due to one man (your middle name is "Everyone", perhaps?)

Well my fault, I was under the impression that you were really pumping it up, sorry. Must be bad reading skillz on my part, lol.

here is an update from the floors last night, Tournaments at the meadows will start this Friday and Bad Beat starts Monday finally everything seems to have fallen into place lets play some poker and hope to see the tournament players there on Friday.

Frommagio, stop hating on boyd. No one cares if there is a 25/50 game. Could you afford to play in it if there was? Me neither. Youve been in the poker room before, theres always a rumor of this or that going on. I dont doubt that he heard it, but also dont believe we'll ever see it. Youll see those kinds of games at Borgata in AC and a in Vegas, thats about it, couldnt find enough steady players with that kind of bankroll around here.

meadows having a 1030 am tourney tomorrow 40 dollar buy in. 2 small for my taste, but they said they should have a full schedule out and on their website by monday.

Nobody is hating on Boyd. I just clarified the situation for a poster asking about the 25/50 that "everyone is talking about". Well, the fact is that everybody's not.

• A casual reader of this thread would be under the impression that there's lots of chatter about 25/50.
• A regular visitor to the room (me) has seen no evidence of anything beyond 5/10 on the weekend, maybe a semi-stable 10/20 game once(?).
• A review of the thread indicates that exactly one 2+2 member is responsible for all the buzz.
• I explained that to the guy who was interested.

Honesty, that should really be the end of the discussion. How much time do we spend speculating about something that is unlikely to ever exist? Is it now "hating" for a 2+2 member to answer somebody's legitimate question?

Besides, you seem to agree with what I said - that it's all just a rumor. And there's only one guy spreading it here. So really, what's up with your post?

By the way, just to see how ludicrous this discussion really is - check out Dynasty's recent update on "The Status of Las Vegas Poker- Summer, 2010", http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27.../#post20616162 (excellent job, Dynasty!).

On a Saturday night in Las Vegas last month, exactly one poker room had a 25/50 NL game running on one table (some rinky-dink place that nobody's ever heard of - "Bellagogo" or something). And yet we're going to have a regular 25/50 NL on Thursday nights 20 miles south of Pittsburgh?

Come on people, it's great to finally have poker here in PA, but let's cut out the silliness.

Traveling button is also known as the California Blind Rule.
The following was copied from the Pennsylvania Poker Players Blog:

The traveling button rule is a variation of the California Blind Rule, which is an old style of posting blinds in poker. The California Blind rules state that the dealer (button), the small blind (or middle blind), and big blind will post blinds. The button blind is equal to the small blind and the big blind is double that of the smaller blinds.

The California Blind rule was originally used in smaller casinos and poker rooms to encourage action, build a pot, and ensure a minimum pot to facilitate a rake for the house. Although most poker rooms use blind parity (dead button) there are still casinos using the Traveling button concept.

The traveling button is never used in tournament play, as it is primarily a cash game house rule. Many players at first find the traveling button confusing, however, it actually is quite an easy to understand concept and should pose no problem for any experienced poker player.Traveling button in poker

The best way to explain how the traveling button works is to give the following example of play. A player who would be on the button in the next hand gets up from the table. The button then must move to an active player at the table, which would be the next player to the left, in this case, the small blind. The small blind although he is now the button must still post his blind.

The player immediately to his left would post his big blind and the player to the left of the big blind will post a big blind as well. In this case, there are two big blinds and one small blind on the button. The rules of the traveling button dictate that there must always be three blinds in the event the small blind or button were to leave the game prior to their posting and receiving cards.

In the event the small blind leaves the game, the button then would remain in place while the big blind must post his blind, the player to his left must also post a big blind. At the next hand, the button would proceed to the next player on the left who posts his small blind (on the button) while the previous big blind player posts a small and the next player then posts a big blind. In this case, you have two small blinds and one big blind. The subsequent hand the button becomes normalized as there would only be one small and one big blind.

A simple way to remember, is that there can never be a dead button in a traveling button poker game, and that even though everyone will eventually post a big and small blind, nobody actually posts any more than normal. If you want to be kind to your players at a poker room that uses the traveling button, avoid getting up from the table on your button or small blind. It is more advantageous and courteous to get up on your big blind.

The Meadows is doing a $225 KO Bounty tourney starting next week on Saturday. They also plan a weekly $120 buy in regular tourney on Wed. eve's.

A potential monthly $500 or $1000 tourney is in the works as well.

For this weekend, the tourneys are $40-$65 buy in.
Hope they get 100 people for it! I'll be there

I can't wait to head down. I turn twenty one this tuesday.

congrats my man i hope to see you down there soon

as for the tournaments i got a reasonable insider schedule the one dealer made all the flyers for the tournaments and told us last night.

Fri 7:30pm a player bounty tournament $65, 5000 chips $10 bounty
Sat 3pm $225 buy in 10,000 chips 20 min lvls
Sat night Sun morning Midnight tournament 12,000 chips 12 min lvls

these start next week-end not this week-end unless something changes

plus there is a plan for a big Labor Day Classic Tournament looking at 300 + buy-in that will be good

all tournaments will have a dealer bonus like $5 or $10 for extra starting chips to help out the dealers he said it differs per tournament

I hope to see as many of you down there since i'm going to win most tournament i enter

Could you get the blind structures for the tournaments as they play out?

I'm hoping that there is some play and not just an all-in shovefest.

I would like to see the cut they are taking out as well, though I am not hopeful with the Wheeling Brass in charge

A casual reader of this thread also wouldn't care if the game happens or not! You obvioulsy have an interest in the game or you wouldn't take the time to comment on it over and over again. It would be great for the casino if it happens. I have no interest in playing in it. However, I have spoken to 3 players that plan to play in it...not a rumor...FACT!

This is a BLOG...blogs are full of "rumors".

But if you want to stop rumors thne stop spreadnig the rumor that you're a "regular". You are the only one that has been stating you're a regular...so it can't possibly be true. Also, since no one cares that you claim to be a regular.

If you don't like the discussion then don't take part in it...its quite simple. You can choose to spend your time as you wish...don't dictate to other people how they should spend their time. Beleive it or not, no one is forcing you to comment on anything I say, let alone even read it.

Lastly, you may want to re-read the entire thread since I've only initiated comments on a 25/50 game twice. IMO, not "lots of chatter".

See you at the Meadows!

The rake on tourneys is as follows:

$40 (30 +10)
$65 (50+15)
$120 (100+20)
$225 (200+25)

SNG rakes:
$65 (50+15)
$117 (100+17)

7 card stud is $50 (40+10)

These rakes are pretty much standard in the industry for low limit buy-ins.

The payout on today's $40 tourney with 42 players was:

1st $567
2nd $315
3rd $189
4th $118
5th $ 76

Blind structure for low limits (40 and 65 tourneys):
18 minute levels
Starting chips 4000 and 5000 with 1000 dealer add on
level small big ante
1 25 50 -
2 50 100 -
3 100 200 -
4 100 200 25
5 200 400 50
10 min break
6 400 800 100
7 600 1200 200
8 800 1600 300
9 1000 2000 300
10 1500 3000 500
10 min break
11 2000 4000 500
12 3000 6000 1000
13 4000 8000 1000
14 6000 12000 2000
10 min break

The tourney today went to the 13th level and ended about 2:45pm

hope this helps!
Good luck

Do the limit games have a limit on raises or not? I saw in some other threads that some brick and mortar rooms do not have a limit on the number raises that can go into the pot in fixed limit games.

My understanding is that this forum is supposed to be for information exchange, not blogging. There are other forums here for rumor and speculation. Unfortunately, it appears that it's going to be necessary to ignore your further posts. But good luck at the Meadows.

PS. About six tables running Sat night at Midnight, none of them 25-50. The Bellagio can rest easy for now.

if it's HU, there is no cap. Apparently this is even if the round started multiway, as soon as a hand get HU, there is no cap.

man, you seem miserable, you must be a blast at parties.

There is no harm in discussing rumors.

Is anybody else here concerned about the turnout in the room so far? It's still in the first month of operation, but the early trends look worrisome and surprising to me. When I think back on the openings of Mountaineer and Wheeling, they each had at least six months of euphoric boom-time, despite the long drives for well over half the clientele. This feels a lot different. My visits have been evenly split between weeknights and weekends. Attendance has dropped with each visit, and yesterday (Sat night), it was looking very, very sparse.

I've also tried to maintain a balance between the Meadows and Rivers, and the Rivers seems to be doing much better. They've always got a large list, and the room seems to be filled deep into the early AM. This weekend, for example - the Meadows had about 6 tables at midnight Sat, whereas the Rivers was filled at midnight Fri, with long lists - and at 4 AM, there will still about 16-17 tables going.

It's hard to know what to make of this, but it's a huge difference. I really want to see both places build strong rooms.

Be careful using the term "rumors," as you could also find yourself on the wrong end of a personal attack! Actually, you're right; I'm fine with a bit of rumor and speculation, if it's stated as so. To be honest, it was the personal attack that caused me to respond as I did.

[QUOTE=frommagio;20777192]My understanding is that this forum is supposed to be for information exchange, not blogging. There are other forums here for rumor and speculation. Unfortunately, it appears that it's going to be necessary to ignore your further posts. But good luck at the Meadows.

This is a blog of sorts, its a forum you can put whatever you want, doesnt have to be just poker room information. General poker discussion is allowed. For reference see: The Constitution, 1st Amendment.

Thanks for taking the time to post this.

What times are the tourney's?

Dave

Yes, I actually agree. My earlier post was a misstatement on my part; I agree that rumor and speculation does have a place here. It would be helpful if posters distinguish fact and rumor, because some folks might actually believe some of the stuff they read here. But no big deal.

However, as I said afterward, it was actually the sequence of personal attacks that lead to my response and my use of the 2+2 ignore function. Someone was asking about the 25/50 NL game that "everybody was discussing", and I pointed out that it was only one man spreading that around - ooops, ... KABOOM!!!!..., "You don't know what rumor means," "What's your interest?", "You've got no bankroll to play it,", "You're not really a regular," etc., etc. Kind of crazy.

In retrospect, I should have just ignored the rumors quietly, and avoided the insult stream (it's not like I'm new here). And if you're silly enough to visit the Meadows on Thurs night looking for 25/50 based on this forum, well you've made that other guy happy.

Having said all that, there is one serious point that you should understand as an adult citizen of the USA. The 1st Amendment of the Constitution does not apply here. This is a private forum, and everything we say is at the will of Mason. That's true; you could look it up.