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01-26-2018 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BMoreE
I second that - nice to actually have decisions on 4th street. We started it 3 handed which lasted not even an orbit before the table was 7+. Good mix of folks too, and the dealers seemed to enjoy it as well. Hope it can go consistently.

At the very least I'll be back next Thursday, hopefully with 3-4 others to seed the game.
What was the max buy in for this? Id like to expand my skills without going broke. Ive only played Plo 1x ,in a home game

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01-26-2018 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Zero2Hero13
What was the max buy in for this? Id like to expand my skills without going broke. Ive only played Plo 1x ,in a home game

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100 min 200 max, straddle not permitted.

I enjoyed it.

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01-26-2018 , 02:50 PM
$100 is way too high for the minimum, and it should be $40-60. $200 is way too low for the maximum, should be $300 or match the biggest stack. its rare to find a wide enough spread in most rooms on minimum and maximum. the minimum should be as low as possible and the max as high as possible. no straddles a good idea.
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01-26-2018 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
$100 is way too high for the minimum, and it should be $40-60. $200 is way too low for the maximum, should be $300 or match the biggest stack.
I can't disagree with your statement as it relates to spreading a "pure" PLO game. However, to encourage more limited bankrolls to gain confidence with a game that is new to them, the $200 max did well (as did the no-straddle rule.)

For the most part the pots were in reasonable ranges ($10-$40 I'd guess) for the tolerance of someone learning, and gave room for reasonable later-round play & decisions. There were no pot-pot-pot-shove-fest-all-ins-pre-flop as you typically find over at the 2-2 with its 200-1k spread.

There were still a few "big" pots when the board warranted (i.e. top set vs. wrap draws) that built through the rounds. I observed pots in the $300-$500 range among 2-4 players.

I do think a smaller minimum would help lower the 1/3 or 4/8 player barrier, and agree with your range on that end.
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01-26-2018 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
$100 is way too high for the minimum, and it should be $40-60. $200 is way too low for the maximum, should be $300 or match the biggest stack. its rare to find a wide enough spread in most rooms on minimum and maximum. the minimum should be as low as possible and the max as high as possible. no straddles a good idea.
How about we have a special rule where anyone who spends their government entitlement checks on gambling instead of his children can buy in for a dollar while he sits and waits to shove with AAKK /AAJT double suited?

PLO plays better when stacks are deeper. Capping at $200 makes it not nearly as intimidating as the 2/2 game, but the minimum at $100 is good and could even be made a $200 min/max. Obviously people who have actually played the game will have more pertinent opinions than mine.
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01-26-2018 , 04:13 PM
nothing would be more dumb than making the min and max bet the same, for if a guy comes into the casino with $389 in his pocket, he should eventually be allowed to get it all into play. not just $200 of it at most, then be forced to go home since $189 isnt enough to rebuy. lets say he had any oddball amount on his person except $200, $400, $600 etc, he would never be able to get rid of the odd change on his person and add it to the table.

anyway speaking of odd rules from the government regarding welfare, i worry for the days to come. since pot is legal in many states now, eventually the govt will require stores to sell edible weed with food stamps, or the store will lose its food stamp license for "discrimination". this is how liberal thinking has destroyed any type of logic or reason
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01-26-2018 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
anyway speaking of odd rules from the government regarding welfare, i worry for the days to come. since pot is legal in many states now, eventually the govt will require stores to sell edible weed with food stamps, or the store will lose its food stamp license for "discrimination". this is how liberal thinking has destroyed any type of logic or reason
Wait Whut? Did I wander onto Facebook accidentally?
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01-26-2018 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
nothing would be more dumb than making the min and max bet the same, for if a guy comes into the casino with $389 in his pocket, he should eventually be allowed to get it all into play. not just $200 of it at most, then be forced to go home since $189 isnt enough to rebuy. lets say he had any oddball amount on his person except $200, $400, $600 etc, he would never be able to get rid of the odd change on his person and add it to the table.
That's what the short buy-in rule is for.
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01-26-2018 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
PLO plays better when stacks are deeper. Capping at $200 makes it not nearly as intimidating as the 2/2 game, but the minimum at $100 is good and could even be made a $200 min/max. Obviously people who have actually played the game will have more pertinent opinions than mine.
I was one of the 3 that started the game and played until it broke. From sample size of 1 session, I think 100/200 is perfect for goal of the game; intro to PLO and still fun with decisions to make on every street.

I'll be at live on Sunday noonish and will happily start short again.




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01-30-2018 , 11:34 AM
Mike
The new $350 tournament with 50k guarantee is not showing up in the calendar on the web site. I had visited the site to take a look at the structure sheet. Are those tourneys still going on Feb 3 and 17? Will structure sheets be available soon?

Thanks!
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01-30-2018 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by loonybird
Mike
The new $350 tournament with 50k guarantee is not showing up in the calendar on the web site. I had visited the site to take a look at the structure sheet. Are those tourneys still going on Feb 3 and 17? Will structure sheets be available soon?

Thanks!
Jason is getting it up as I type.

Thanks
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02-01-2018 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
$100 is way too high for the minimum, and it should be $40-60. $200 is way too low for the maximum, should be $300 or match the biggest stack. its rare to find a wide enough spread in most rooms on minimum and maximum. the minimum should be as low as possible and the max as high as possible. no straddles a good idea.
as usual tbc you have no idea what the hell you're talking about
a wide spread is idiotic for any game
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02-01-2018 , 09:53 AM
Does anyone know if the 1-1 PLO ran at all over the weekend? Wondering if the Thursday interest bled over...

Tonight (Thursday) I'm going to try to kickstart the 1-1 PLO game again. I've got 3 friends coming along to try it out, so we can start short, but hopefully anyone interested can make it out. Looking like around 7:30.
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02-01-2018 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BMoreE
Does anyone know if the 1-1 PLO ran at all over the weekend? Wondering if the Thursday interest bled over...

Tonight (Thursday) I'm going to try to kickstart the 1-1 PLO game again. I've got 3 friends coming along to try it out, so we can start short, but hopefully anyone interested can make it out. Looking like around 7:30.
I started the list around noon on Sunday. Game was started 5 handed around 6ish and quickly filled. Ran for about an hour like that until a few busted. We played 3 handed anther 30 minutes or so before breaking.

I'm out of town for work so can't make it today, but will be back Sunday morning.

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02-01-2018 , 08:50 PM
Streak info released and it sucks!

Gold (5yr):
$20/week for 20 weeks
Or
$240 lump sum plus up to $60 monthly bonus based on play.

Earn 2000 points= $5 free play next month
3000 pts.. $10
5k pts.. $20
7.5k.. $30
10k.. $40
15k.. $60

This will be the last year of the streak promo.


This is my 5th year on the streak.
Got $400 last year when it was my 4th year.
This year didn't increase like they said it would at the beginning of the program.
'the longer your streak, the more $ you will get.'

And to you trolls: no, earning points for future free play definitely doesnt count in my book.
I don't feel as being rewarded for being a 5yr streak member.
It's more of an insult.

What did 5yr platinums get?

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02-01-2018 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
Streak info released and it sucks!

Gold (5yr):
$20/week for 20 weeks
Or
$240 lump sum plus up to $60 monthly bonus based on play.

Earn 2000 points= $5 free play next month
3000 pts.. $10
5k pts.. $20
7.5k.. $30
10k.. $40
15k.. $60

This will be the last year of the streak promo.


This is my 5th year on the streak.
Got $400 last year when it was my 4th year.
This year didn't increase like they said it would at the beginning of the program.
'the longer your streak, the more $ you will get.'
Meh

And to you trolls, no, earning points for future free play definitely doesnt feel as being rewarded for being a 5yr streak member.
It's more of an insult.

What did 5yr platinums get?
Platinum 3rd year:

"Simply pick one of the options below by visiting any Promotional Kiosk now through 2/28/18. If an option is not chosen, you will automatically be enrolled in the Single Streak Payment & Bonus."

Option 1
$60 per week for 25 weeks


Option 2
- One time $900
plus
- monthly loyalty bonus based on play
- $20 per 5k points earned to max of $200 per month.
- if this option chosen monthly bonus starts "this summer" and more information will be sent.

So looks like I have to choose before I get complete information and have to choose by 2/28 or a choice will be made for me.


Finally...

"The Streak program will be ending this year. Be on the lookout for an all-new, one-of-a-kind Rewards Program Just for our Live! Rewards Members that will keep the good times rolling in 2019."





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02-01-2018 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead
Platinum 3rd year:


- monthly loyalty bonus based on play
- $20 per 5k points earned to max of $200 per month.
Since I only play poker which earns 100 points for each hour played I would need to play 500 hours a month to earn the max bonus of $200. That is not likely ever going to happen.

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02-01-2018 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
What did 5yr platinums get?
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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead
Platinum 3rd year:
Option 1
$60 per week for 25 weeks
Option 2
- One time $900
plus
- monthly loyalty bonus based on play
- $20 per 5k points earned to max of $200 per month.
Platinum 5th year:
Option 1
$80 per week for 25 weeks, starting May 7 at 9:00am.
Option 2
- One time $1200
plus
- monthly loyolty bonus based on play
- $20 per 5K points earned to max of $200 per month
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02-01-2018 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by daveopie
Platinum 5th year:
Option 1
$80 per week for 25 weeks, starting May 7 at 9:00am.
Option 2
- One time $1200
plus
- monthly loyolty bonus based on play
- $20 per 5K points earned to max of $200 per month
Thx.
My expectation based on previous years is streak level x # years on steak.

Thus:
Gold 5 x $100 = $500
Platinum 5 x $500 = $2500

I can see lots of player anger over this
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02-02-2018 , 08:58 AM
Regarding the Streak bonus, if you take the lump sum, when will it be available?
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02-02-2018 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by The Drifter
Regarding the Streak bonus, if you take the lump sum, when will it be available?
Mine (5-yr gold) said:

• Your Streak payment will be valid from
9:00AM, 04/02/18 - 11:59PM, 05/02/18
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02-02-2018 , 11:42 AM
so is option 2 generally better value if you plan to play every month this year?
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02-02-2018 , 12:05 PM
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so is option 2 generally better value if you plan to play every month this year?
It depends on how many hours you play and how often you visit.

I typically play 50 hours a month, which would only get me a $20 monthly bonus (I think you get 100 "points" per hour of poker played). To get the full monthly bonus, you have to play 500 hours of poker in a month. In a month with 31 days, that's over 16 hours of poker per day.

So I will be choosing option 1. However, getting full value out of that option requires me to stop in every single week from May though October. So if I only visit every other weekend, I would only get half of the advertised value. I think I will be there enough for this to be a better option for me.
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02-02-2018 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chioh
so is option 2 generally better value if you plan to play every month this year?
Not if you only play poker. You need 50 hours just to earn 5k points for $20. In my case of 3 years platinum, i need to make $600 from monthly bonus break even. Option 2 is $900 lump sum plus monthly and option 1 is $1,500 spread across 25 weeks.

I'd need to play 1,500 hours of poker to earn enough points for $600 in monthly bonus.

Assuming I'm doing the math correctly. 1 poker hour is worth 100 points.

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02-02-2018 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chioh
so is option 2 generally better value if you plan to play every month this year?
As described, option 2 is a better value unless you plan to play only poker and play every week. (Or almost every) And, even then, you might consider option 2 if you plan on putting in a lot of hours each month.
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