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Id be all in on a 6 handed nlh.

Ive also wondered why,when not in peak times,casinos dont spread 9 handed games.
Extra table space=convenience for players.
More tables open=More $ for the house.

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01-14-2018 , 10:27 PM

#11953

The Drifter

old hand

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,436

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Originally Posted by Zero2Hero13

At the lowest limit (1/2 or 1/3) 9-handed isn't more profitable for the room. The tables break more often, and some players go home when that happens. Low limit players are walking more, bust more frequently, and generally play shorter sessions.
Consider this: A 9-handed game has two players walking, and someone busts. Now your in reduced rake, and if someone picks up, the table will break.

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01-15-2018 , 10:05 AM

#11954

2/5_specialist

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 603

Mike,

Great job in making the mandatory button straddle on the 5 5 5 card PLO, can that also apply to the 2 2 5 card? I think the 2 2 5 card button straddle should be 10 to 15 since the 5 5 5 card is 15 to 25.

Thanks.

T

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01-15-2018 , 10:32 AM

#11955

Mike Smith

Poker Room Rep

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,546

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Originally Posted by flopshot

any thought over ever spreading a 6max cash game? or an ante game?

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In theory, that sounds great. In reality, not so much. In tournaments, good players have no problem playing in 6 max games. In cash games, you really need some players of not so great a skill that like to play short handed. You find those, we can spread a 6 max.

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Originally Posted by nicefoldbro

Also any chance of running 1-1 PLO games for beginners?

This is something we are definitely looking at

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Originally Posted by The Drifter

Exactly

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Originally Posted by 2/5_specialist

For now, you'll have to play 5/5 for that

Thanks

Mike

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01-16-2018 , 10:26 PM

#11956

TonyG410

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 139

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Originally Posted by nicefoldbro

Also any chance of running 1-1 PLO games for beginners?

Second

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01-18-2018 , 01:07 AM

#11957

TripleFo

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 133

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Originally Posted by nicefoldbro

Also any chance of running 1-1 PLO games for beginners?

Thirded. It will be a huge hit!

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01-18-2018 , 10:33 AM

#11958

Mike Smith

Poker Room Rep

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,546

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Originally Posted by nicefoldbro

Also any chance of running 1-1 PLO games for beginners?

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Originally Posted by TonyG410

Second

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Originally Posted by TripleFo

Thirded. It will be a huge hit!

So I'm thinking a 4 card game with $200 Max Buy-in? True pot, no straddle, learn the game?

PM me your thoughts and when you can play.

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01-18-2018 , 10:40 AM

#11959

10-JackSuited

enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 55

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Originally Posted by Mike Smith

So I'm thinking a 4 card game with $200 Max Buy-in? True pot, no straddle, learn the game?

PM me your thoughts and when you can play.

Mostly weekender here, but I'd get into that game. Prefer to bump up initial stack to $300 though if we could (still would be smaller than 1-3 game)

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01-18-2018 , 11:18 AM

#11960

Rapini

ragging

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,096

I wouldn't play the game because it'd be a rake trap, but I think a max of $200 is the obvious choice because the 2/2 game starts at $200.

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01-18-2018 , 01:12 PM

#11961

psujohn

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,173

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Originally Posted by Mike Smith

So I'm thinking a 4 card game with $200 Max Buy-in? True pot, no straddle, learn the game?

I'm perhaps a bad example because I don't play that often these days but as a 1/3 NL player this is exactly what would allow me to try out PLO. Specially the no straddle. PLO inherently plays bigger than NL and a 2/2 PLO feels like starting out at 2/5 NL and if there's a lot of straddling it's suddenly like a 5/T game.

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Originally Posted by Rapini

I wouldn't play the game because it'd be a rake trap, but I think a max of $200 is the obvious choice because the 2/2 game starts at $200.

Just curious but do you think 1/3 NL is a rake trap?

I'd support a max of $300 because PLO plays better with deep stacks. If it's 100 min I don't see 300 max deterring people.

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01-18-2018 , 06:02 PM

#11962

BMoreE

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by 2/5_specialist

Why do you want to force the lower game to play bigger? If you can't get your big game, MGM will have it. And if this 2/2 gets bigger, there are many (self included) who will need to bow out.

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Originally Posted by psujohn

PLO inherently plays bigger than NL and a 2/2 PLO feels like starting out at 2/5 NL and if there's a lot of straddling it's suddenly like a 5/T game.

... right that!

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Originally Posted by Mike Smith

For now, you'll have to play 5/5 for that

Good call Mike, for all the reasons listed in the recent posts.

I mean, you already need like $2K in your pocket to reasonably weather the swings at the 2/2 as is. This is a lot different than, say, the $600 folks are bringing for a night of 1/3.

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01-20-2018 , 11:05 AM

#11963

GolfPro

veteran

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Mike,

Saw the Bravo update on the Tournaments for Feb.

Very nice to see $350 BI/50K GTD on Saturday (3 and 17).

I will be there for sure to support the new format. Hopefully this will be a standard offering going forward.

With the new tournaments in Feb and WPT Deepstacks in March, we will have a busy season for tournaments at Live.

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01-20-2018 , 04:07 PM

#11964

Mike Smith

Poker Room Rep

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,546

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Originally Posted by BMoreE

Why do you want to force the lower game to play bigger? If you can't get your big game, MGM will have it. And if this 2/2 gets bigger, there are many (self included) who will need to bow out.

... right that!

Good call Mike, for all the reasons listed in the recent posts.

I mean, you already need like $2K in your pocket to reasonably weather the swings at the 2/2 as is. This is a lot different than, say, the $600 folks are bringing for a night of 1/3.

We're going to try and start this Monday along with a $4-$8 Limit 5 Card Omaha Game. Something new.

If anyone wants to schedule a group to start any of these or other games, LMK.

Thanks

Mike

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01-24-2018 , 11:57 AM

#11965

BMoreE

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by Mike Smith

We're going to try and start this Monday along with a $4-$8 Limit 5 Card Omaha Game. Something new.

Dang, I completely missed this. Anyone know if either of these went?

I believe Mondays are tough for a new game... I tried making it to the 10/20 that was spread a while back on Mondays, but it just couldn't get traction. (and frankly I hated going out on a Monday night.) I just don't think "social" players are up for attending at the beginning of the week.

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01-24-2018 , 11:58 AM

#11966

Mike Smith

Poker Room Rep

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,546

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Originally Posted by BMoreE

We made them available. No game yet

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01-24-2018 , 01:07 PM

#11967

sevencard2003

banned

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,642

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Originally Posted by Mike Smith

So I'm thinking a 4 card game with $200 Max Buy-in? True pot, no straddle, learn the game?

PM me your thoughts and when you can play.

true pot would be great, none of this $5 to bring it in BS, but just like online where u can limp the $1 BB if its unraised. i had to quit playing $1-2 PLO games and stick with NL holdem because this always annoyed me everywhere id travel to. the rule was never for the benefit of the players, but for the dealers being too lazy to count the pot, and the very rich overrolled players who secretely wanted to force them to play higher.

straddles wouldnt annoy me so much if they did it like the golden nugget in vegas played instead of making the SB act first. and the minimum buyin needs to be $50, not $100.

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01-24-2018 , 01:39 PM

#11968

ZippyThePinhead

adept

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 948

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Originally Posted by Mike Smith

We made them available. No game yet

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If 1/1 PLO is one of the new games, I'm in for this coming Sunday at noon.

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01-24-2018 , 09:04 PM

#11969

Pocketwatch99

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 14

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Originally Posted by Mike Smith

We're going to try and start this Monday along with a $4-$8 Limit 5 Card Omaha Game. Something new.

If anyone wants to schedule a group to start any of these or other games, LMK.

Thanks

Mike

Limit Omaha is a crazy fun action game, and addictive. I’d love to play, though I am not regular enough to schedule a particular time. I sure would like to see it take hold.

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01-25-2018 , 04:00 PM

#11970

BMoreE

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by Mike Smith

So I'm thinking a 4 card game with $200 Max Buy-in? True pot, no straddle, learn the game?

PM me your thoughts and when you can play.

I'm trying to rally a few non-PLO friends (at least never at a casino) to give this a try next Thursday, Feb 1.

In the meanwhile, I'll be willing to start a game tonight if anyone else wants to give it a shot.

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01-25-2018 , 04:25 PM

#11971

ZippyThePinhead

adept

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 948

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Originally Posted by BMoreE

I'd be willing to make a special trip tonight after work if there is enough interest. I'm fine starting short. Can be there around 6:15 - 6:30

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01-25-2018 , 06:34 PM

#11972

BMoreE

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead

I'd be willing to make a special trip tonight after work if there is enough interest. I'm fine starting short. Can be there around 6:15 - 6:30

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Start the list, I should be there by 7!

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01-25-2018 , 06:37 PM

#11973

ZippyThePinhead

adept

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 948

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Originally Posted by BMoreE

Start the list, I should be there by 7!

Will do

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01-26-2018 , 09:21 AM

#11974

TripleFo

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 133

Played the 1/1 PLO last night and had a blast! Hoping for a good weekend turnout.

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01-26-2018 , 01:15 PM

#11975

BMoreE

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by TripleFo

Played the 1/1 PLO last night and had a blast! Hoping for a good weekend turnout.

I second that - nice to actually have decisions on 4th street. We started it 3 handed which lasted not even an orbit before the table was 7+. Good mix of folks too, and the dealers seemed to enjoy it as well. Hope it can go consistently.

At the very least I'll be back next Thursday, hopefully with 3-4 others to seed the game.

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