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If your friend is generally not an a-hole and can keep up with whats going on at the table - not only will he be fine but he will be ahead of the curve at 1/2...

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07-01-2016 , 06:00 PM

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Archibald

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 169

Very happy to see the HORSE tournament scheduled for July 13th. I think there is a market for non-hold em tournaments in the region.

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07-01-2016 , 08:43 PM

#10329

kimoser22

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,822

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Originally Posted by Archibald

Very happy to see the HORSE tournament scheduled for July 13th. I think there is a market for non-hold em tournaments in the region.

What is the buy-in?

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07-01-2016 , 09:33 PM

#10330

Sbubka

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 5

Howdy all. I'm gonna be moving to the area soon (visiting next week to find an apartment) and would love to visit the casino! Is there a weekly tourney structure that I can check out or should I rely on cash games?

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07-01-2016 , 09:53 PM

#10331

AngusThermopyle

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 14,929

Tournament Calendar

Another page

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07-01-2016 , 11:20 PM

#10332

Archibald

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 169

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Originally Posted by kimoser22

What is the buy-in?

$200

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07-02-2016 , 01:43 AM

#10333

DryAngel

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 370

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Originally Posted by dcmidnight

If your friend is generally not an a-hole and can keep up with whats going on at the table - not only will he be fine but he will be ahead of the curve at 1/2...

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Originally Posted by remmy420

Your friend should be fine. If he gets at a table he's not comfortable at he can always ask to table change but most tables are pretty mild.

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

1/2 at Live isn't really any different from 2/5 at Live. Sometimes you get the drunk ******* but most of the time you just get the usual mix of chatterboxes, table captains and hoodie/headphone mutes.

Thanks everyone. He knows the basics from home games and just wants a relaxing vacation. Doesn't want to deal with folks complaining or getting upset with him for not speaking English.

Doh, The table change tip makes sense - didn't think of that. will pass it on.

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07-02-2016 , 10:13 PM

#10334

NickMPK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11,569

I'm thinking about playing the $270 6-max tourney tomorrow, but I was looking at the structure sheet, and it is inconsistent with the website. The website says $250 goes into the prize pool, while the PDF structure sheet says only $244. Which is it?

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07-04-2016 , 11:03 AM

#10335

FeliciaLee

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Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,912

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Originally Posted by Archibald

Very happy to see the HORSE tournament scheduled for July 13th. I think there is a market for non-hold em tournaments in the region.

Does anyone know how long these other-than-HE tourneys last? HORSE, O8, O/E, etc? I know that they start at noon and that another tourney starts at 7pm, so given the structure, I'm thinking about five hours. Correct?

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07-04-2016 , 02:46 PM

#10336

kimoser22

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,822

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Originally Posted by FeliciaLee

Honestly no clue, but I would take the over on five hours. That's only 10 levels and unless it only gets like 15 runners (highly doubtful) it will go longer than 10 levels. They will run more than one tourney at once as upstairs isn't really that crowded on non-weekends/ holiday

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07-07-2016 , 12:27 PM

#10337

flopshot

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 82

World Poker Tour schedule in Sept-Oct posted on twitter.

https://www.marylandlivecasino.com/a...PokerPTr10.pdf

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07-07-2016 , 01:45 PM

#10338

Anytwo72

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 149

Yesterday's LO8 tourney wrapped up shortly before 7pm. Only 31 runners. Thought the dealers were really nitty enforcing rules such as out of turn play and cell phone use - obvious unintentional errors by players. Then we got to the final table and it was like the NBA Finals - what rules? Otherwise a fun time for what is one buy in for most low limit cash games.

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07-07-2016 , 03:24 PM

#10339

EvilGreebo

banned

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,526

Out of turn play has been a real problem in tournaments in the past and Live's dealers have been instructed to enforce the rules consistently. Same rules are enforced at Shoe, equally consistently.

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07-07-2016 , 04:35 PM

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Anytwo72

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 149

Agree but my point was that it wasn't being enforced consistently. During first level a reg in #6 takes chips and taps top of chipstack, newbie in #7 (had poker book with him - think that is a tell) takes that as a check and bets. Reg says he didn't act and Newbie gets 3 hand penalty. I was in #8 and said it was a check by #6. Supervisor ignores.

Later at Final Table Button hides cards and SB calls out of turn. SB takes back call and no penalty is enforced. Dealer said he wasn't looking - Supervisor is standing behind dealer - O's game is on TV.

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07-07-2016 , 05:07 PM

#10341

dcmidnight

adept

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887

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Originally Posted by Anytwo72

My experience has been that the rules are enforced to the extent that the dealers/floors want to enforce them - which seems to vary widely from shift to shift.

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07-07-2016 , 05:21 PM

#10342

psujohn

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,173

My experience is that rules are enforced inversely proportional to the extent that an O's game is on the TV.

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07-14-2016 , 08:34 AM

#10343

rmf_319

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 38

just wanted to give a quick shout out to mike to acknowledge how great the HORSE tournament was run yesterday. ended up with 42 runners, great structure that really gave everyone enough time to play and then didn't escalate too quickly. unfortunately i got knocked out in about 14th place, but it was still 6 hours well spent and an enjoyable time.

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07-14-2016 , 10:51 AM

#10344

pk_nuts

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Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 951

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Originally Posted by Anytwo72

Just my opinion but the three hand penalty for action out of turn without any warning is anything but fun. This is not the wsop. Its not a bunch of pros and dreamers trying to get a ring or a bracelet. These are low buy in rec geared daily tournaments. Please stop giving recs and newbies a reason not to come back!

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07-14-2016 , 11:09 AM

#10345

Hunt4Sky

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 498

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Originally Posted by pk_nuts

Disagree. I think this ruling has been very consistent and becomes more important as the tournament gets into later levels. For tournaments, the rules need to applied and applied consistently from beginning to end.

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07-14-2016 , 06:39 PM

#10346

avalon88

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 76

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Originally Posted by Hunt4Sky

You're confusing consistency with severity. 3 hand penalty is rather severe (Horseshoe is one hand, Borgata is 'please don't do it again'). No one is arguing against consistent application of penalties. One hand seems fair, given that most 'fold out of turns' occur because a another player's cards are partially/fully hidden. i.e., purely an accident, as opposed to an overt act of irresponsibility. One hand gets the message across, three hands usually irritates the offender. Since tournament participation seems to be down; why irritate players unnecessarily? Good grief; there is already enough about playing poker to get irritated about!

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07-14-2016 , 11:53 PM

#10347

Rapini

ragging

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,096

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Originally Posted by avalon88

If the offender is irritated, perhaps he won't do it again.

In the instance where a player is hiding his cards, it is THAT player who should be given a penalty.

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07-15-2016 , 12:12 AM

#10348

AngusThermopyle

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Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 14,929

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Originally Posted by Anytwo72

takes chips and taps top of chipstack,

To me the severity of the penalty pales in comparison with the ruling that the player committed some infraction by interpreting the above as a check.

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07-15-2016 , 08:34 AM

#10349

vaz

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 108

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Originally Posted by Rapini

In the instance where a player is hiding his cards, it is THAT player who should be given a penalty.

I agree, but unfortunately, this is not the case. I played in a tournament here recently and during level 1, a player acted out of turn. The player to his right had his hands completely over his cards and no one saw that he still had cards. After the hand, when the dealer was explaining what happened to the supervisor, he even said that the the player had his hands over his cards. The acting out of turn player got a penalty, but none for the other player.

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07-15-2016 , 10:52 AM

#10350

psujohn

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,173

Saw the same in a tournament. Seat 7 has his hands completely covering his cards. Seat 8 (who is clearly an inexperienced player) mucks and is given a penalty. Seat 8 later would sometimes pause with an annoyed "Is it on me? I don't want to act out of turn"

Seat 7 wasn't hiding his cards exactly but they also weren't visible. If seat 8 is following the action he could have known that 7 hadn't acted. Seemed to me a little verbal warning to both would have been more appropriate. And in particular to seat 7 "Sir if you hide your cards and cause a player to act out of turn behind you, you'll be assessed a penalty"

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