Usually it's 5 card hi/lo. Maryland Live might be different but that's the normal way.

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As usu...the are different...lists fo big o and big o/8

BTW 10-20 lo8 going now...we need ur action!

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10/20 O8 and HE going strong.

So, 10/20 O8 was going with a full table until about 330am, when the floor comes and tells us all to rack up and move from our upstairs table 42 to downstairs table 14. 2 people immediately go home, and the game breaks about 10 minutes later.

I would understand if there were only a few tables left going upstairs, and they were moving everyone downstairs. But there was about 10 or so tables still going upstairs. And none of them, to my knowledge, were told to move.

This is very frustrating since a 10/20 O8 game is super rare, and it ended because of the management. Almost like they wanted to purposely end the game, which makes no sense to me.

In the 10 or so minutes that you guys were there after that - was it clear that other tables were moving from downstairs?

If not, this is really odd. I'm sure Mike could chime in as to why though.

I hate this as well. Would be interesting to check their bravo history to see what percentage of players go home Instead of following their table downstairs.

They must have data on this.

Lots of times i tell myself, ok one more orbit then I'm going home, only to stay fur hours. Table gets moved and I rack up.

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It didn't look like any other tables were moving. I could be wrong, but there wasn't even enough free tables downstairs for all the tables going upstairs.

That sucks....but switching gears...

Let's get this damn game off next weekend. I'll be there and will start short!

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I've been in this position 3 times and all 3 resulted in me picking up and leaving my table. Once due to me being ready soon and the table closure simply accelerated the process by an hour, the other two times due to others picking up and me ending up being on a list at 3am after an 8-hour session.

Yes a small sample and I'm sure it isn't 100% however common sense would suggest that it is a rather high percentage this occurs. It's a leak in this rooms game.

Just left live. First time there. Overall nice. The 500 hh every 15 minutes is nice m-f.

Wish the burger palace accepted comp dollars. It's literally next to the id station.

Would love to get it going Fri early afternoon...

Live must have been reading my complaints about moving full tables and decided to mess with me.

Been at table 11 for 6 hours playing 1/2. At 5:30pm on a Sunday with the place packed for hourly drawings they decide to move our full table upstairs.

They wanted to open up a higher limit game and those players are more important than us, so upstairs us peasants go.

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Real reason they moved us; coldest damn table in the place!

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ill be in Maryland in 2 weeks, this room is actually in a mall?

It's a casino attached to the end of a mall

The Sunday night promotion is highly suspect. July 19- THREE names were called twice. Explain the math to me on that one. There is no transparency and how the winning names are created but if three names were duplicated- the program has to be looking for something. In any event it is an incredibly stupid way to give a prize. Let everyone qualified and there put their names in a drum and have a scantily clad waitress pull it out- the ticket I mean. Would be much more credible than the BS last night.

The transparency is - ask someone. I have.

They give you one entry per hour you play live. If you play 50 hours that week, you have 50 entries. If you have 50 entries you have a greater chance of being called multiple times.

As for the names in a drum - this isn't "Hunger Games", they do it all in the computer and usually the randomizer is displayed on at least one TV screen.

It's not hard to understand that people who play 8 hours a day all week long may win more than once. You will have noticed that between all these multiple wins were people who were picked but weren't there. Guess who wins if a lot of the people who played during the week aren't there to claim their prize if chosen?

Other people who play a lot.

Can we still have the scantily-clad waitress?

+1

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^ this please

Your a smart guy, a computer guy, and a math guy, Greebo. Much respect.

But I have to say, given the sheer # of entries, (25,000+) it is highly unlikely that even a full time grinder would be picked twice in a day. The fact that it has happening in every drawing, every Sunday, at least appears suspect.

I personally don't think it's a case of malicious intent, I don't think Bravo's promotional module RNG can handle something of this size. I assume you're aware, a computer cannot "randomly" do anything. Sophisticated RNGs simulate a random sampling, and are very, very, expensive. They use extensive algorithms that seed with outside random variables. Clock data, for example, can generate a random # between 1-600. But there's only so many random inputs that software can access, and when that # climbs higher, so does the difficulty.
Even if we assume that Bravo is using a top notch industry standard RNG, such as Mersennes Twister, one still has to pull over 600 results before it begins to approach a pseudo random number. Was this done, did it need to be done each hour as the data pool increased? I don't know. And I'm not even positive that Bravo would spend millions to develop or license a top notch RNG, as it only rarely would need to randomly generate a high number.

What I suspect is occurring, is that the RNG is breaking the entries into batches of 600 or less, and then "randomly" choosing from one of those. Except it's pulling from the same batch of 600 every time, leading to duplicates.

Just my two cents. But I also find it suspect that every Sunday we are seeing duplicates.

I don't play the Jackpot games, so I don't know the exact details of the drawings. But this seems to be just like "The Birthday Problem". (See Wikipedia for extra detail) Briefly, it says that statistically it if you have 23 people in a room, there's a 50% chance of one of the pairs having the same birthday. This makes sense because there aren't 23 chances, rather there are 253 "pairs". But if you take 1 specific person from the 23 and ask "what's the chance of this 1 specific person having a birthday with someone in the room?" it's obviously a lot smaller (6% = 22/365).

So don't think about it as "What's the chance that that guy got pulled twice?" but think of it "What's the chance that someone got pulled twice?". Big difference.

Or you could think of it as - When a person wins one time, what are the odds that he will win again?