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08-29-2013 , 08:06 PM
Mike,

Can u provide more info such as how many levels and the payout structures?

$20K Guaranteed DeepStack NL

$330 Buy-in $20,000 Guaranteed at noon on Sundays. 15,000 starting stacks with 30 minute levels until the end of the re-entry period. 40 minute levels after

Thanks.
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08-29-2013 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by edwurtle
There is no need for dealers to tell floor about empty seats. That's what the bravo system is for. As long as the dealer keeps his bravo up to date, the registration desks should know where the empty seats are.

Of course if it's taking forever to fill in the seats, you might need to "remind" the floor about the empty seats.
Unless for some reason your table's Bravo system has a glitch and is not updating. Which turned out to be one of the problems at our table last night. Bravo is certainly efficient, but it can not completely replace the interaction between the floor and the dealers.
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08-29-2013 , 08:38 PM
What time should I get there by tomorrow to ensure I'm not waiting forever? I'm coming from Arlington so would like to avoid awful traffic if possible...
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08-29-2013 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Smith
Probably 2 hours is fair for our first one.
I understand wanting to bring it in for $5, but we believe that makes the game play too big and that's not the goal of the 2/2. Let's give it some time, we can adjust if necessary.

Thanks


Mike
Strong LIKE. I want to learn PLO, and if other donkeys and I want to limp for $2, it'll just give others a chance to better outplay us after the flop 2/2+5 may as well be 2/5+flop-bet-shove, and that variance may kill the game quickly for many.

Mike, I love the idea of trying to nurture a game and help it grow - kudos. Omaha has a great chance to start a new boom of interest from action table-games players if you can get them hooked.

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08-29-2013 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by perryjones1121
Coming from Bethesda area and decided instead of driving (in case of a drink or two) that I'd take metro to shady grove and then take the icc bus ($38.75 for 5 roundtrips - cheaper than gas). With proper timing, I would be adding about 20 minutes to my trip though. Anywho two questions:

1. How far is drop-off from the casino;
2. Does anyone know if it's a safe walk at night on a return trip at 10ish?


One other question and this could be the wrong forum but with so many people coming from similar areas, is there a ride-share somewhere within 2+2?

Thanks.
I've taken this bus to the BWI airport (Route 201) and find it very convenient. Saves toll and gas. It can bypass congestion on US29 on the dedicated bus lane. I will definitely take it in winter when it snows. At the mall, the 201 stops outside the Medieval Times restaurant (faux castle). You can then walk through the mall or walk around the lot a bit to ML. At night you would be safest to walk with a group or through the mall if still open. With lots of foot traffic, it should be okay but still be vigilant.

The last bus leaves BWI airport bound for Shady Grove and the Gaithersburg parknride at 1100pm and gets to the mall at 1118 pm, according to the schedule. http://mta.maryland.gov/sites/defaul...201Feb2012.pdf
So one should get to the stop by 1115 or earlier to avoid missing the last bus of the night.

At Shady Grove metro, the route 201 bus picks up/drops off at the smaller garage. The buses are newly decorated with "Going to BWI?" decor plastered on its side, so easy to spot from the other commuter buses. Just be sure to double check with the driver if getting on a plain bus, as I don't know if all BWI buses are now wrapped with the new decor.

An excellent option to get to ML. I've seen quite a few casino workers take the bus to/from work. Along with lots of BWI travelers, it is a safe and active route. Nice ride to/from.

Other public transportation options to ML offered by Maryland:
http://mta.maryland.gov/ride-mta-maryland-live

Hope this information helps more people get to the poker room!

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08-29-2013 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdClayChip
There are now "Vaporless E-cigs" that have virtually no emission or smell.
Thanks for at least giving it a chance, Mike.
Emphasis on virtually! For those of us who are highly allergic to cigaret smoke, have asthema or other breathing issues, etc. - there is no reason why we should have to tolerate these things.

Keeping in mind that the tobacco lobby lied for decades about the safety of tobacco, why should we believe the e-cigaret companies that their product is safe?

Scientific studies have been done, and cancer causing agents in the "vapor" have been found.

Lee
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08-29-2013 , 09:56 PM
PLEASE NO CIGS WHATSOEVER @ THE TABLES!!!!!!_!

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08-29-2013 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovesantiques
Emphasis on virtually! For those of us who are highly allergic to cigaret smoke, have asthema or other breathing issues, etc. - there is no reason why we should have to tolerate these things.

Keeping in mind that the tobacco lobby lied for decades about the safety of tobacco, why should we believe the e-cigaret companies that their product is safe?

Scientific studies have been done, and cancer causing agents in the "vapor" have been found.

Lee
Lee, you keep saying "scientific studies" but have yet to cite at least one credible source. Im neither for or against e-cigs, but i think that if you keep making claims like this, you need to at least provide a relevant source to back up your claims. Doing a brief google search in scientific articles, all i could find was a short-term physiological study that was published last year, with conclusions stating the community is still unsure about long term health effects. Im not saying that your claims are wrong, just curious where the info is coming from.
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08-29-2013 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Smith
Currently allowed in the casino, but I have approval if I want to ban them from the poker room. Haven't decided yet




Verbal would alwys be binding in that situation


LOL thanks



We did get a 15-30 yesterday for a while


Thanks

MIke
Please ban the e cigs
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08-29-2013 , 10:14 PM
Will u b capping the Sunday tourney? If so what time do u suggest getting there to b assured of a seat?
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08-29-2013 , 10:57 PM
Lee,

Here is a study published this month. Very detailed and sourced.

"By reviewing over 9,000 observations about the chemistry of the vapor and the liquid in e-cigarettes, Dr. Burstyn was able to determine that the levels of contaminants e-cigarette users are exposed to are insignificant, far below levels that would pose any health risk. Additionally, there is no health risk to bystanders. Proposals to ban e-cigarettes in places where smoking is banned have been based on concern there is a potential risk to bystanders, but the study shows there is no concern."

The Study

http://publichealth.drexel.edu/SiteD...0e603/ms08.pdf

Please allow sufficient time to load.

Enjoy your evening,

Tom
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08-29-2013 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SuqAta8
Completely agree, please dont make the game play bigger. The whole appeal of this game is that its essentially the only lower limit plo game in the region.
+1
Note that the person asking the question also talked about the 5-5 game. I see this at Aria where people who want to gamble it up but are waiting on the bigger game try to push the game to allow straddles and above pot betting. The 2-2 should allow for people to learn the game and fee the 5-5. If you have a $5 bring it just becomes almost the same as $5-$5.
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08-29-2013 , 11:25 PM
Please ban the e- cigs. Regardless of the health concerns, it is incredibly annoying to sit at a table with these smokers. Maryland has gone mostly smoke free indoors and people have gotten used to be img able to breathe indoors again. To have any smoke in your face for hours will make you think twice in going there. Plus the e-cigs can come on different flavors, and I don't want to go home smelling like Weed.
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08-29-2013 , 11:48 PM
Can someone answer this?

What time should I get there by tomorrow to ensure I'm not waiting forever? I'm coming from Arlington so would like to avoid awful traffic if possible...

TY
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08-30-2013 , 12:03 AM
Mike, when would you start accepting call-ins for 2/5+. I tried to get on the list today but was told you are not accepting call ins yet.
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08-30-2013 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaaarrrp
Can someone answer this?

What time should I get there by tomorrow to ensure I'm not waiting forever? I'm coming from Arlington so would like to avoid awful traffic if possible...

TY
Tomorrow's Friday so it may differ, but I was able to seat immediately at 1/2 today at around 3:30.
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08-30-2013 , 12:54 AM
Are you allowed to rub Fossilman's head for good luck?

@ 5pm today, line was only 4 people deep, and I was instantly seated. My table seemed like it was all random dads.

The no backpack rule is annoying. A worker said they used to have a bag check too but did away with it.

I like the room overall.
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08-30-2013 , 01:02 AM
Another request here to ban use of e-cigs. I experienced inhaling the vapor at a recent O's game and it impacted me, mostly light-headedness.

Last edited by PutMeOnQuads; 08-30-2013 at 01:04 AM. Reason: changed vote to request
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08-30-2013 , 03:56 AM
I played an 11.5 hour session yesterday and have some questions/comments.

To start with a positive, the room is very nice, and most of the issues I had were minor communication issues or technology glitches that I expect will be fixed over time. I did have a few really terrible dealers who were break ins (which surprised me given the pool of dealers you had to choose from), but most of the dealers were top notch mechanically. I was surprised at how few were enforcing the basic forward motion rule though (see 5 below). Overall, I like your room and will definitely be back. Congrats on your opening.

1) I am not sure that forcing people to "go south" when table changing or coming from a broken game is good for the room for a number of reasons. I was informed that I could not bring my $600+ stack to a different 1/2 table after the staff force broke our table upstairs. I would like the option to bring the full amount OR $100-300.

2) Speaking of which, if your dealers have no end time (as many of them noted) and you don't have upstairs cage considerations (like they always cite at CT) why would you ever force break a game (especially a full one)?!? My 9-handed game upstairs was broken an hour after I was seated there. I think it is highly discourteous to the players to do this and was wondering why? I asked the floor person breaking our table and was greeted with a blank stare.

3) Over the course of my session I had 3 different floor people explain your IWTSTH rule differently and most dealers seemed to be very confused on what the rule on this was. Please get everyone on the same page. What is your IWTSTH rule?

4) What is your rule on discussing/showing cards when heads up in cash play? I noticed in the room rules it says it is not allowed and yet many people were doing this and none of the dealers were saying anything about it. I would prefer it to be allowed, but ultimately, I would just like consistency.

5) I have never seen so many unenforced string bets in my life. Dealers were letting people get way out of control with it at my table(s). One player would bring chips clearly in front of his cards, shuffle them, and bring them back. Another player put out a few red chips in front of his card, went back to get a green, and then pushed them forward even though the red chips were already in front of his cards initially. I was somewhat disappointed that even good dealers that I recognized from other casinos were letting this happen without enforcing forward motion. Upon asking a dealer about it, one said it depended on "how far in front of your cards the chips were." This is a rule that should not have this much confusion. I know many local players are not used to playing without betting lines, but forward motion is not hard. Please train your dealers to strictly enforce this rule. If they start enforcing it, people will learn how to handle chips and make bets appropriately which can only be a good thing for players, dealers, and floor people.

6) I had the same issue that a few others have reported with the usb chargers. It kept freezing my iphone 5 screen so that I could not use my phone while it was charging. Not sure if this is an electrical problem or what.

7) I anticipate this will be fixed as you sort out staffing needs, but there was a very noticeable lack of floor presence downstairs for several hours. A dealer was calling for floor with no one responding for his entire down on table 14. I offered to go find one, but there did not appear to be any downstairs at that point in time. It's terrible to leave your dealers without adequate support, even if you are currently short staffed. Same issue with chips runners, but you've already commented on that.

8) Please consider using the $2 chips for rake only. There is no need to have them in the big bet games and there were several incidents of people mixing them up when betting. Although I did not personally bet incorrectly, it was next to impossible to determine what someone's chip stack actually looked like across the table. I had to ask players several times whether or not they had green because I couldn't tell if a pile of 5 chips was $10 or $125. Especially at 1/2, this matters. If a player lies/is incorrect when they say they have no greens and I determine how to bet based on that, I have no recourse and dealers won't count people's stacks unless they are wagered as an all in. It's important to be able to visually ascertain how much people are playing. Determining greens/blues was especially difficult upstairs where it seems to be a little darker.

9) What is your post rule when moving out of the blinds? No dealer ever made people post in these situations and I didn't want to be *that guy* by asking about it.

Thanks so much for taking the time to read people's comments on here. And congrats again on opening a nice room. I'm sure it will be even better when you get these issues worked out.

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08-30-2013 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by c2d2
3) Over the course of my session I had 3 different floor people explain your IWTSTH rule differently and most dealers seemed to be very confused on what the rule on this was. Please get everyone on the same page. What is your IWTSTH rule?
I can answer this one. MD Live doesn't recognize IWTSTH
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08-30-2013 , 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 2J4U
I can answer this one. MD Live doesn't recognize IWTSTH
We had a floor person rule at our tables yesterday that anyone not in the hand could ask. That's why I wanted clarification.
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08-30-2013 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jpgoody123
Please ban the e- cigs. Regardless of the health concerns, it is incredibly annoying to sit at a table with these smokers. Maryland has gone mostly smoke free indoors and people have gotten used to be img able to breathe indoors again. To have any smoke in your face for hours will make you think twice in going there. Plus the e-cigs can come on different flavors, and I don't want to go home smelling like Weed.
This. Smoking is banned in public places in Maryland. e-cigs are a grey area; but are annoying to the people around them nonetheless. I would stop playing and ask for a table change immediately. There is a designated area for smoking.
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08-30-2013 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by c2d2
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Re: #1 - from the FAQ on page one: "If you voluntarily transfer to another game, you must comply with the min/max buy-in. If you come from a broken game or a must move game, you take all your chips."

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08-30-2013 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruxton Atheist
Re: #1 - from the FAQ on page one: "If you voluntarily transfer to another game, you must comply with the min/max buy-in. If you come from a broken game or a must move game, you take all your chips."
Now that I think about it, I think this is not a good rule. Anytime a player wants to lock in winnings, just ask for a table change?
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08-30-2013 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Now that I think about it, I think this is not a good rule. Anytime a player wants to lock in winnings, just ask for a table change?
I don't view the rule any different from a person leaving the table after winning a big pot and going home. I think the point of the rules around this are to prevent people from rat holing at the same table. It also prevents people from building up a stack and start steam rolling tables by table hoping. Imagine someone sitting down at $1/2 table with $4k because he was allowed to switch voluntarily once he was up on all.

Now coming from broken table, you are able to bring all your chips. Now I'm not sure if you HAVE to put all your chips in play coming from a broken table, but at least the option is there to put them all on the table.

Mike,

Can you clarify if the rule of broken table/must move with existing stack are forced to sit with the existing stack size they came with or do they have option to only buy-in for table min/max? I guess this would be a little sticky if someone comes from broken table and is short stacked at new table and is forced to buy-in for min to continue to play.
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