Really hope rapini nazi-filters your post. Calling a massively hyped room deceitful for having long lines on grand opening day is just lolzy

1) heard the reason why they're pushing $2 chips is for the rake.
but that doesnt make sense since the max rake is $5. i could understand if the max rake was $4...

2) do they give partial comp credit?
ie: i was at a table for 1 1/2hrs. got about 900 pts, which is fine if you have the standard red players card. but i'm platinum and get 1.5x

so either i didnt get credit for that 1/2 hr or higher tier comp multiplers dont work for poker comps.
Mike?

So the Bravo app says there's 12 tables going right now. More than anywhere in the country from what I can tell.

Just finished a 17 hour 1/2 session. I ended up playing on 3 different tables as people went broke and tables were consolidated. I ended up +$1127. I played solid/standard and people would just pay me off. Only bluffed once where I shoved $300 on the river into a $400 pot w/A high and got a fold.

No complaints. Room is A+++. All the people complaining need to relax and appreciate what they have in their own backyard!

Great job MD Live!


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I think the list was shady, I checked bravo and it showed short lists. I would have been really pissed if I showed up and saw 100+ people in line. I am sure many people experienced that by checking bravo and not this thread. That makes it seem that the bravo waits were intentionally kept short to attract people.

I wouldn't mind a two hour wait I just would like to have the list accurately displayed online (since they chose to use it).

Ya. They prob shouldve done what Bellagio/Aria/Mirage etc do and just have 3$ chips in the rack to use for drop. Seems fine tho, i enjoy playing with multiple denominations of chips

Speaking of "nazi-filtering," next time you discuss moderation action in a substantive thread as opposed to the mod discussion thread you get a ban. Use the Report Post function if you see a post you think is out of line.

As for the substance of wtfomgbbq's post, he made one post that makes it obvious that he's a shill for CT. No big deal. If he were continue to make similar baseless posts repeatedly I'd shut it down.

I will say however that I can confirm "shadiness" in the lines/wait lists. I personally know two people who did not have to wait in line yesterday because they "knew people." Another poster made a (now deleted) thread in B&M main forum that contained a testimonial of his line jumping.

Sure, that's bad, but what can you really expect from the room when it's complete mayhem like yesterday? I think we all need to calm down, go with the flow, and help Mike address this issue in two or three weeks after traffic has decreased to manageable levels.

As in so many things in poker, it depends.

Women are allowed small backpacks, because they are considered the same as purses. Men are only allowed fanny packs. This is one rule that I really hope changes!

But it is a casino rule, not a poker room rule, so Mike likely has little or no say on it.

I can't recall ever seeing something like this. Maybe CT when it opened? I can't recall, and wasn't there. Bravo doesn't seem to have any way to generate a "players on line but not on list" number. The poker room staff, I am sure, were swamped. And, being realistic, what could they do? Artificially change the numbers on the waiting list? That would be confusing to everyone who was there and waiting.

Imagine being on line for so long, finally making it into the room, and then seeing a 200+ person waiting list in front of you..... I can't see how this could go right.

Hopefully, this was a one time thing. Or maybe a rapid poker room expansion will occur.

I wouldn't call it deceitful, even though I can certainly see why some might think of it that way. Just opening day jitters with an oversupply of demand.

Compared to when Revel and Golden Nugget opened their rooms - with virtually no demand - this is a good thing, in my humble opinion.


Not quite! Commerce has more. But I'ld say that 12 tables running at 8:00am on a weekday morning, on the East Coast, is great!!

Lee

News report on Poker room from Balt Ch 13

The first day was a dissappointment. People were standing in line for 2 hours just to sign in to the bravo system.
There is no excuse for this!!!
I never saw more than 20 people on the Bravo waiting list for 1-2 and 2-5 yet there were 200 standing in line!!
This is unacceptable.
You should be able to walk up and sign in right away then go about your business and come back and check on your status just like every other poker room in the country.

Yes, I'm sure that arguably the most anticipated room in the country acted deliberately in a deceitful manner because they were worried not enough people would show up. This totally follows the pattern that Mike has set in being opaque about how the room operates and not listening to 2p2 user concerns.

Open seating 1/2

Congrats to the Maryland players on getting what looks to be a great room. We will miss many of you at DP.

Have some patience with the room while they work out the kinks and good luck to all the 2+2ers. Take full advantage of the schools of fish now before they go broke.

Nice Pic of the first flop with the 4, 5 and 6 of diamonds

After you're on the waiting list, will they text you or would you have to keep coming in to Check if your name has been call. Someone please answer. Thanks!

Duly noted, my bad.

mike,
can Bravo be programmed to automatically assign seats?

ie: 1/2 no limit waitlist has 5 names
john
amy
dave
will
jack

when a dealer opens up a seat, bravo puts a table number next to person's name and flashes name. so it would look like this:
john -15
amy -4
dave
will
jack

this way the people at the podium dont have to constantly scan the screen for empty seats.
more efficient?

Obviously this was only day one, but I'd hope that should the situation continue (or be a staple on weekends) that some additional alternative be found. It's very plausible that there will be max use of tables on weekends/holidays and X people waiting to be seated, creating the overflow line.

I think it is entirely reasonable to have a sense of the room conditions before driving up/over/down. If Bravo is used, but fails to reflect the actual wait, it will cause unnecessary negative attitude towards the room. Not everyone utilizes 2+2 to check room conditions, but obviously I'd recommend doing so before heading up.

Very excited to have the room running and Mike at the helm, so don't take this the wrong way. Just want to identify actual issues and work to resolve them if possible. Maybe the call-ins will work well for the bigger games and/or ultimately things just aren't busy enough to worry about it.

This wouldn't work well because of people waiting for a table change. Plus I don't think it's a current Bravo feature.

I certainly wouldn't call myself a "shill" for CT....

While I play plenty of hours there mainly for geographic reasons, I spend a considerable amount of time at Borgata, Parx, etc... and happen to be as excited as anyone for MD Live to be open. The hopes of a well lit, efficient room that has a variety of games excites me and is great for poker in our region.

I was merely suggesting that the Bravo, if used by ANY poker room, be a true representation of what the conditions of the poker room were like. I don't want to make the drive and have a surprise waiting for me.

I didn't realize this thought process came across as shilling or overly negative, it seems to be a valid thought process and I still don't understand why names couldn't be added to the Bravo list? The fire code theory seems entirely valid, although maybe someone could get names and add them to Bravo so players would know what the room is like?

I'm pretty sure that the line thing won't reccur. Remember what we had here. A room with no tables running and 300+ people show up at the same time ready to get seated. It's going to take some time to process all that. Mike said in advance that the planned to let people into the room slowly - probably not wanting to give an absurdly large sudden crush of people to a brand new staff.

I suspect that they specifically chose to open at noon on a weekday hoping that it would mitigate the demand somewhat and while they anticipated a crows the actual crowd exceeded expectations. Hell as of Tuesday I wondered if I'd be able to go after work and get seated in a relatively short time.

For future big volume days (like this weekend I'm sure) they'll have the benefit of people arriving singly or in small groups and spread out over time. That way they'll be able to get everyone on the Bravo list instead of having a line to get on the list.

Mike,

Thanks for the great grand opening. I presume not everything went according to plan, but it was a great experience nonetheless. Hopefully things will settle down relatively soon. Just a few things I noticed last night while playing 5/10 NL and 5/5 PLO, in no particular order (I realize some of these might be unique to opening day):

1) No must move for 5/5 PLO. I think this game plays much better with a must move list, probably up to 4 tables. I understand that last night there was no must move because the two tables were on different floors. If this happens again in the future, however, I think we should still protect the main game with must move games.

2) Unclear must move for 5/10 NL. Apparently around 10 PM or so, there was no longer a must move list, and people were on multiple table change lists, seats weren't getting filled due to confusion about transfers, etc. Again, for 2K+ buy-in games, I think it works best if we keep a linear must move list.

3) $2 chips aren't necessary in the bigger games? At least at one point, our 5/5 PLO table ran out of whites and only had the $2 chips. I think for time games, the well can consist mainly of whites and we would be fine and require a fill less frequently, in case you will be reserving certain sections of the room for bigger games.

4) Fractional time for new players. This is totally new to me, and I appreciate the business reasons for it, but is there any way you can eliminate this? I think it's important to make new players feel welcome; charging them time right away seems a little aggressive?

5) Some of my friends and I were waiting in line yesterday when the 10/25 NL ran for a little bit then broke due to lack of players. Some of us (and a few others I recognized) would have definitely played that game if admitted into the room. I hope the long line to register for a game isn't going to be a frequent occurrence, but in case it happens again, I think if there are open seats for certain games, it would be nice if those in line were eligible to play.

6) People were a little thrown off by the unusual dealer change times (quarter to and quarter of). This isn't a big deal, but just curious if there are compelling reasons for doing this?

7) Any chance of bigger water bottles and free Red Bull?

Just my two cents.

Thanks again for making Live poker possible and being so patient and responsive on 2+2. See you soon!

Very plausible. Just wondering if the fire code capacity (if enforced) ends up being the choke point. Guess we'll find out one way or the other.

This is fairly accurate. There was no intent to decieve anyone, but on a day like yesterday, we knew crowd control would be an issue and we did plan on allowing players into the room slowly and maintaining orgainzed chaos as oppososed to unorganized chaos. We had hoped at some point, we could allow everyone to register and then page them but we couldn't get to that point until late. It should function as a normal poker room now, as it is today. We will probably not be that busy at one time again. Thanks to everyone for the compliments, but they really go to the staff that worked their butts off yesterday.


Thanks


Mike

I was a bit disappointed that I had to stand in line for 3 hours instead of putting my name on a list and going shopping. But looking at the situation, I don't think there were many viable alternatives. I would have preferred they open new tables faster, but they only open once and there were a few issues (lack of chip runners, from what I gather).

What they could not do is add all 300+ people in line to the Bravo board. The only place you could hear the names called was inside the poker room, and having 300+ people standing around not playing poker, waiting to hear their name called.

I would not worry about Bravo not being accurate unless you look at Bravo and see that all 52 tables are in use. At which point, they don't have room to add extra people to the room. But other than when at full capacity, Bravo will be accurate.