You just have to assume it's Merson when this pops up. I do, anyway.

I think that is computed at 91.6% of the amount wagered on each spin is what is paid back. So on average, the casino gets the rest. Let's do some math ...

A player wagers $1 on a spin of a wheel, which seems about average. The casino gets 8.4 cents each time that happens. How fast do people play slots? I've seen people mash that "spin again" button pretty quickly. I can imagine them doing it 12 times per minute (I picked the number so the math works out). 8.4 cents times 12 spins is $1.01 So for someone playing a $1 slot machine at a decent page, the house makes approximately $1 per minute, which is obviously $60 per hour. That is quite a bit more than they make of an individual poker player. Look at the higher limit poker games that are time raked - what is it, like $6 per half hour they charge? Pot raked can be a bit more, but no where near what a slot machine pulls in.

My point - be thankful for the $1/hour comp you are getting for playing poker.

Whose he playing with ?

This is incorrect. I have 286 entries for this promotion per the rewards kiosk. Entries have been increasing thru the month as I have played. Only other thing I play is slots and I certainly haven't run the over $1k thru that it would take to get those points.

I plan to test the poker as "carded play" further tomorrow and see if the kiosk will let me print the gold card voucher for the panini maker after 3 hours of poker.

I've seen phelps and an economist that is recognizable

Whats the min buy in on that game?

15k

FWIW I wan't trying to get MDL to change their ways WRT chip runners, I was simply refuting the fact that outside of Vegas cash doesn't play, and just added in that fact about FW not having runners, etc.

For one thing, in video poker you don't have to pay a dealer. That doesn't apply to other table games but I dodnt know how much they make on those -- probably a lot more.

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Had something come up last night I (and everyone else at the table) had never heard of before. I'm assuming it's just a case of "the dealer was wrong", but figured I'd toss it out here anyway.

Player to my right was away. When it came around to where I was first to act, the dealer wouldn't allow me to straddle because I wasn't "under the gun", the missing player was.
The dealer said, "This has been discussed a lot and it's what my bosses have decided."

Any validity here?

That sounds ridiculous. You would be UTG since the player isn't getting dealt in the hand.

MD Lives facebook feed just announced that more restaurants are coming.
no other details given like eta.

I like how you explain it as profit per spin I think that is a better way of looking at it. Is someone playing $720 an hour with an average loss of $60 a fair comparison to a 1/2 NL player though? How many slot players play that much, on average per hour? I honestly don't know much about it. I've never put a dime in a slot machine.

I am thankful for the $1/hour. It makes a difference to me as a 1/2 NL player. I used to play once and a while at Harrington Casino in DE where there would usually only be 1-3 tables total running in the poker room. We get $1/hour and the occasional free snack/coffee. I guess my theory that bigger/busier room = better comps isn't really how it works.

I hope you are right. Good luck getting a voucher for the panini maker, that was my plan originally too. Let us know how it goes.

I was at a table where we asked the floor and he said he didn't know and would find out, he came back and said poker play does nit count as carded play in promotions. I have been playing poker during home team football game and didn't get $7 in slot play for every touchdown like you would at a machine or table on the floor. The difference between table play and poker play is when playing a table game and you lose the house gets the money and at the poker table whhen you lose I get the money. :thumbup:

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Yes, poker players fund the promotions ourselves - that is what the BBJ drop is for. But the casino doesn't get a dime of that (Mike confirmed this in an early post) and actually has to pay for someone to keep track of it all. No reason for the casino to comp poker players on that basis.

As for how much a casino makes - just the rake is an average of $12 per hour per player, if I recall correctly. Close to that, at any rate. Anyone playing against the house will lose, on average, a heck of a lot more than that!!

Sure, the casino also makes money from poker players buying food, drink, bringing significant others who play slots and/or tables, etc.

But the straight rake simply doesn't justify comps as high as slot/table game players get. I wish it did...

I really miss the good ol' days in A.C.!

Lee

I would say 4-5 hands an hour. I really prefer players not being able to buy at table, slows the game down just a little bit. But anything to get more hands in!

Agree, sounds like the dealer was confused (unless it is a very non-standard house rule).

I think that may have been part of the confusion for me. Before I started playing live poker all I heard about was playing in A.C. and free drinks in vegas.

Thursday and Friday I saw a few people on the Bravo that had called in for 1/2 NL. Is this an option now?

It's been nice to see improvement on stopping people from line jumping. Please keep working on it. It is very frustrating to wait an hour or more, knowing that many people are not and adding to my wait time, with no consequences if they get caught.

Voucher obtained. It's panini party time. Mmmm :-)

Nice man. Kind of jealous. I'd have one too, but apparently both of the people I talked to on the phone had no idea what they were talking about. I find all this very confusing. Poker players aren't included in a lot of promotions because poker players don't make the casino as much money (as discussed already).... yet here you are a poker player with a panini voucher. You did play only poker in the poker room today correct?

Yes, only poker from 1200 to 1530 or so. No slots or carnival games today. I suspect the communication between the rewards folks/poker staff is less then crystal and that each of their understanding of the promotions varies from person to person. A few weeks back I had a rewards desk person tell me (after conferring with a supervisor) that I should get 1.25x comps for poker which we know is not the case.

Who knows if it works this way for next promotion. I think we can only follow the guidance in the e-mails/mailers and give it a shot.

Can someone confirm/deny that there's some kind of state law or house rule stating the highest min-BI for any game is 1k?

Heard this yesterday after I geeked the f out seeing Greg Merson playing 100-200; was tempted to drop a dime on the game and just ship it dark to say I played a hand with the champ (if it wouldn't be too rude)

I'm sure they would take your 1K donation if u did it dark regardless of the rule

OK, thanks for the update and the clarification.