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10-22-2013 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by trob888
Smaller promotions are best right now for the players and the casino.
p.s. forgot to mention - i agree on the smaller promotions part being best for the players and casino
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10-22-2013 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaaarrrp
I understand the idea of spreading the bad beat around. What I don't understand is approval of a system where losing with something like quad tens can actually be a negative ev thing which seems pretty clear given an individuals loss in a hand can easily get above 50% of the mini bad beat. That really makes 0 sense to me.
Well, losing is always negative EV. Even with Quad Tens and up. The fact that it can, on edge cases where a bad beat jackpot exists and has enough value, be positive EV I think is more of an aberration than the other way around.

Seriously, you're complaining that your consolation prize for being on the wrong side of statistical improbability isn't big enough. That really makes 0 sense to me.
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10-22-2013 , 06:40 PM
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know when the Wednesday night 7:15 tourneys have been ending? I'm thinking about playing tomorrow's, but I'd prefer not to be there until 4 a.m.
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10-22-2013 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kwabert
Does 2x Tuesday promotion work for poker?
Pretty sure the answer to this is no. I played the first Tuesday of the month and checked the points earned after the session. Not doubled.
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10-22-2013 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves
They only stop drinks from getting in.

Actually, this is not true. Today I was talking out of Live with a cup of coffee that I got from the poker room and the security guard at the exit stops me and tells me that I'm not allowed to leave with my cup of coffee!

I was stunned and repeated "it's just coffee not alcohol." He says, "It doesn't matter you can't leave with any drink." Then he mumbles something about it being a liquor law. He says that it's just like how you can't walk outside a bar with a drink in your hand. I reply, yes but you can walk outside Starbucks with a drink in your hand. I tell him to call his supervisor.

He radioes his supervisor who says, "You can leave with it but we're going to ban you for 24 hours." I say OK and walk out with my coffee.

On the walk to the car, I call the casino who put me through to someone in security. I again explain that I was drinking coffee, in a coffee cup. Is this a Maryland Law or a casino rule I ask? He says both. I doubt he actually knows if it's a law, he just wanted to pretend like his hands were tied.

Does anyone else know how this absurd practice came to be?
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10-22-2013 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bravesfan043
Does anyone else know how this absurd practice came to be?
The best answer I can give is that MD Live security is wildly inconsistent in training staff and applying rules.

I have been told I could not leave with plastic bottles of water that I got at MD Live. I have been told on some occasions I couldn't take a plastic cup with nothing but ice out.

Some times I am told I can't leave with an empty cup, and other times they make me turn it upside down over a trash can so that the surveillance can see it's empty and then let me leave without any issues. Just totally inconsistent
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10-22-2013 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bravesfan043
Actually, this is not true. Today I was talking out of Live with a cup of coffee that I got from the poker room and the security guard at the exit stops me and tells me that I'm not allowed to leave with my cup of coffee!

I was stunned and repeated "it's just coffee not alcohol." He says, "It doesn't matter you can't leave with any drink." Then he mumbles something about it being a liquor law. He says that it's just like how you can't walk outside a bar with a drink in your hand. I reply, yes but you can walk outside Starbucks with a drink in your hand. I tell him to call his supervisor.

He radioes his supervisor who says, "You can leave with it but we're going to ban you for 24 hours." I say OK and walk out with my coffee.

On the walk to the car, I call the casino who put me through to someone in security. I again explain that I was drinking coffee, in a coffee cup. Is this a Maryland Law or a casino rule I ask? He says both. I doubt he actually knows if it's a law, he just wanted to pretend like his hands were tied.

Does anyone else know how this absurd practice came to be?
....because, after all, it's so hard to part with a free 12oz cup of **** coffee.

Poker @ Live has quickly attracted just about the worst group of brats in the form of grown men that I've ever seen of being a regular poker player in 3 different casinos in the past 6 years.
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10-22-2013 , 09:53 PM
Wow, lots of ****ty posting in here recently. Let's keep posts on the topic of MDL poker and not on politics, e-peen swinging contests, etc. Thanks!
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10-22-2013 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bravesfan043
Actually, this is not true. Today I was talking out of Live with a cup of coffee that I got from the poker room and the security guard at the exit stops me and tells me that I'm not allowed to leave with my cup of coffee!

I was stunned and repeated "it's just coffee not alcohol." He says, "It doesn't matter you can't leave with any drink." Then he mumbles something about it being a liquor law. He says that it's just like how you can't walk outside a bar with a drink in your hand. I reply, yes but you can walk outside Starbucks with a drink in your hand. I tell him to call his supervisor.

He radioes his supervisor who says, "You can leave with it but we're going to ban you for 24 hours." I say OK and walk out with my coffee.

On the walk to the car, I call the casino who put me through to someone in security. I again explain that I was drinking coffee, in a coffee cup. Is this a Maryland Law or a casino rule I ask? He says both. I doubt he actually knows if it's a law, he just wanted to pretend like his hands were tied.

Does anyone else know how this absurd practice came to be?
This happened to me a few weeks back. At first I was shocked when they told me I couldn't take my coffee out. I told the security guy to **** off and left with my coffee anyway I walked right out and left that dope stammering
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10-22-2013 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinquefoil
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know when the Wednesday night 7:15 tourneys have been ending? I'm thinking about playing tomorrow's, but I'd prefer not to be there until 4 a.m.
It's a good structure so it'll go pretty late if people don't want to chop at the end. You always have the option of losing and getting a good nights sleep though.
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10-22-2013 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bravesfan043
Actually, this is not true. Today I was talking out of Live with a cup of coffee that I got from the poker room and the security guard at the exit stops me and tells me that I'm not allowed to leave with my cup of coffee!

I was stunned and repeated "it's just coffee not alcohol." He says, "It doesn't matter you can't leave with any drink." Then he mumbles something about it being a liquor law. He says that it's just like how you can't walk outside a bar with a drink in your hand. I reply, yes but you can walk outside Starbucks with a drink in your hand. I tell him to call his supervisor.

He radioes his supervisor who says, "You can leave with it but we're going to ban you for 24 hours." I say OK and walk out with my coffee.

On the walk to the car, I call the casino who put me through to someone in security. I again explain that I was drinking coffee, in a coffee cup. Is this a Maryland Law or a casino rule I ask? He says both. I doubt he actually knows if it's a law, he just wanted to pretend like his hands were tied.

Does anyone else know how this absurd practice came to be?
jfc, could you have been more unnecessarily difficult? just throw it away. it's a coffee ffs. lots of places where alcohol is served will not allow you to take any beverage outside whether it has alcohol in it or not.

+1 to whoever said Live is bringing out all the brats. you pay them a few bucks an hour to deal you poker hands and think you are owed the world. get a ****ing grip.
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10-22-2013 , 11:14 PM
Im currently standing near the cashier 2nd in line for a 2/5 seat. It has been 15 minutes and counting since the FOURTH open seat has been available as per the computer screen Im looking at. Not a single name has been called for about 25 minutes even though there is a 12 person list.

And yes, I have a watch and am actually timing this mess.

Does the job not simply consist of looking at the screen at calling out names corresponding to the yellow/red tables? This guy at the desk in front of me is looking at the screen and not doing anything but occasionally calling 1/2 seats.

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18 minutes to get called since the fourth, almost 30 total since the first open seat was made available. I must be missing something about how the desk works.
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10-22-2013 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by socialrunner
It's a good structure so it'll go pretty late if people don't want to chop at the end. You always have the option of losing and getting a good nights sleep though.
Touche, sir. If I fall asleep at the table, they can blind me out. I busted out of yesterday's 12:15 tournament (139 entrants, 20-minute levels, 8,000 starting stack) in 12th at 6 p.m., so I was just trying to do a little calculation about how long a 15-minute level, 15,000-starting stack tournament would run.
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10-22-2013 , 11:38 PM
I think your educated guess of 4am was probably about right. I've never been there in the middle of the night on a Wednesday/Thursday morning though so I can't say for sure. If no one gives you a concrete answer before tomorrow, the registration desk can probably give you a reasonable approximation.
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10-23-2013 , 01:44 AM
Ok, are you guys finding a way to check your comp dollars online? I have not found that yet. Please advise.

Last edited by joboggi; 10-23-2013 at 01:57 AM.
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10-23-2013 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Thallium

Seriously, you're complaining that your consolation prize for being on the wrong side of statistical improbability isn't big enough. That really makes 0 sense to me.
I'd somewhat agree with this statement if there wasn't something coming out of every single pot to finance that prize.

Dunno how you can actually say that losing is always -ev or refer to hitting the bad beat (as a loser) as a "consolation prize." In a casino with a BBJ, losing with a qualifying hand should never be an -ev proposition. Having a dollar taken out of every pot for any "jackpot" that could possibly be -ev makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by Thallium
Well, losing is always negative EV. Even with Quad Tens and up. The fact that it can, on edge cases where a bad beat jackpot exists and has enough value, be positive EV I think is more of an aberration than the other way around.
You really think that most BBJ winners (losers of the hand) actually lose money??? Having a bad beat qualifying hand in almost every single casino guarantees you either win the pot or a decent sized jackpot bigger than the pot (unless you're playing nosebleed stakes). That is the point of the BBJ

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10-23-2013 , 01:55 AM
Heard some dude flipping out during the 7Pm tournament tonight. Floor was called. Around 8 I think. Anyone know what happened?
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10-23-2013 , 04:54 AM
Does anyone know what days and what time that the 25/50 lhe goes? I am assuming Saturday night is the most popular night.
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10-23-2013 , 06:40 AM
Faced with long waiting times and open seats, one could point out to the brush "I am 4th on the list, and there are 5 open seats. I would like to take one of those seats." you're not line jumping, you're getting seated, and you're helping the cause. Win all around. Plus you can pick your table.
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10-23-2013 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 6MaxLHE
Does anyone know what days and what time that the 25/50 lhe goes? I am assuming Saturday night is the most popular night.
We play every Saturday at 1ish. Game has been going through the night and broke last sunday at about 8 pm. Also goes random week nights when people feel like playing. Monday night, three of us organized the game thinking it would be super short all night, but filled up quickly and we played 9 handed with a list.

We have an email list to organize game. PM me your email if you want to be added.
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10-23-2013 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_Bad_Bill
qfmft

nh sir

Being a newly-opened facility, the newly-trained staff may take some time to get up to speed. With the state likely watching things closely, the staff may be jittery about rules enforcement issues. And I don't know that self-served endless food and drink are a reasonable expectation at this facility.
Was across the street from the casino a few fridays ago for a work thing during the day. Walked over to the casino a couple times on breaks. Loved the 5 or so people outside the main entrance smoking, despite multiple signs that say no smoking in various languages. I guess it was raining all day but still...
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10-23-2013 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by foobar
We play every Saturday at 1ish. Game has been going through the night and broke last sunday at about 8 pm. Also goes random week nights when people feel like playing. Monday night, three of us organized the game thinking it would be super short all night, but filled up quickly and we played 9 handed with a list.

We have an email list to organize game. PM me your email if you want to be added.
Is there a list for the 8/16 and 15/30? I can't do 25/50.
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10-23-2013 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaaarrrp
In a casino with a BBJ, losing with a qualifying hand should never be an -ev proposition. J
"I propose that right after the mega-BBJ hits, I will hit quads against 3 all-in players, and try to lose at showdown for the mini-BBJ."

"Don't do it! It's -EV!"



You are correct, that conversation should never occur, for reasons we disagree on.

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10-23-2013 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Faced with long waiting times and open seats, one could point out to the brush "I am 4th on the list, and there are 5 open seats. I would like to take one of those seats." you're not line jumping, you're getting seated, and you're helping the cause. Win all around. Plus you can pick your table.
Or just point out to the floor that there are open seats and you're at/near the top of the list. Guaranteed they will seat you right away.
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10-23-2013 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bravesfan043
Actually, this is not true. Today I was talking out of Live with a cup of coffee that I got from the poker room and the security guard at the exit stops me and tells me that I'm not allowed to leave with my cup of coffee!

I was stunned and repeated "it's just coffee not alcohol." He says, "It doesn't matter you can't leave with any drink." Then he mumbles something about it being a liquor law. He says that it's just like how you can't walk outside a bar with a drink in your hand. I reply, yes but you can walk outside Starbucks with a drink in your hand. I tell him to call his supervisor.

He radioes his supervisor who says, "You can leave with it but we're going to ban you for 24 hours." I say OK and walk out with my coffee.

On the walk to the car, I call the casino who put me through to someone in security. I again explain that I was drinking coffee, in a coffee cup. Is this a Maryland Law or a casino rule I ask? He says both. I doubt he actually knows if it's a law, he just wanted to pretend like his hands were tied.

Does anyone else know how this absurd practice came to be?
This is a pretty standard rule for any business with a State issued "Liquor" License
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