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10-21-2013 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SuqAta8
how do you give people a ban (without warning) without actually knowing the legalities of what they were doing
Private property? -- Plus if they didn't know and there are possible penalties/fines, no doubt they would choose the no risk option.
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10-21-2013 , 09:37 PM
Full 25/50 LHE game on a Monday! Wooo!
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10-21-2013 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by UMTerp
Full 25/50 LHE game on a Monday! Wooo!
Sick game. I just saw come guy call down w. King High....and he was good!!!
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10-21-2013 , 11:14 PM
Question about where you can put big chips in your stack, mainly the $25. I'm deathly afraid of mistaking it for a $2 and using it to limp. For a while yesterday I had it in the middle of a stack of reds. After a while a dealer told me I needed to put it on the top or bottom, but not middle. So naturally I put it on the bottom. After a couple more hour I got a dealer who said it had to be on top.

I don't really care which way it goes, but am curious what the official rule is.
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10-21-2013 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by adamjm
Question about where you can put big chips in your stack, mainly the $25. I'm deathly afraid of mistaking it for a $2 and using it to limp. For a while yesterday I had it in the middle of a stack of reds. After a while a dealer told me I needed to put it on the top or bottom, but not middle. So naturally I put it on the bottom. After a couple more hour I got a dealer who said it had to be on top.

I don't really care which way it goes, but am curious what the official rule is.
Pretty sure the official rule is that it needs to be visible to everyone at the table. Just keep it on top or in front and on the opposite side from your blue chips. Also just double check before you put any chips in the pot to avoid a misclick.
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10-22-2013 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by adamjm
Question about where you can put big chips in your stack, mainly the $25. I'm deathly afraid of mistaking it for a $2 and using it to limp. For a while yesterday I had it in the middle of a stack of reds. After a while a dealer told me I needed to put it on the top or bottom, but not middle. So naturally I put it on the bottom. After a couple more hour I got a dealer who said it had to be on top.

I don't really care which way it goes, but am curious what the official rule is.
It needs to be kept anywhere visible, usually top or front.

If you used it to limp, short of saying "raise", it should be ruled as a call anyway due to the oversized chip rule.

If you aren't comfortable with a single oversize chip in your stack, ask the dealer to change it for $5 chips.
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10-22-2013 , 02:40 AM
I have talked to some fellow players about the BBJ and almost everyone agrees that the mini BBJ is a waste of money. It prevents the main BBJ from raising to relatively large number (e.i. $150,000) that temps players to come in and play poker for the sake of the BBJ. If anything they should start the losing BBJ hand at quad Ks and lower it to quads Qs for every $20,000 or so the BBJ rises.

Just a suggestion. If anything, raise the qualifying losing hand for the mini BBJ to quad 2s not Aces Full.

With a 52 table room you think at a point you would see the BBJ rise to $200,000 or so but I feel the mini bad beats prevent that.
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10-22-2013 , 07:42 AM
Played at Live! this past weekend. Overall, a very likeable poker room.

Game selection was good, many non-holdem options, and 10+ 2/5 games.

The food menu is limited, although I was told you can bring food from Cheesecake Factory (no one mentioned Bobby's). If you do order from the poker room waitresses, be prepared to wait quite a while.

Seats still don't get filled quickly and I can't figure out why. The 2/5 list was 30+ people long, players would leave the table, dealers would clear Bravo, and it would still take a few times of asking a floor person (or someone just coming and sitting down).

Lastly, they will take an interest list for any game, then call the game literally hours later when there are 15+ names on it, without checking who's still around, and the game never runs. This happened with a bunch of limit non-holdem games on Sunday. There was definitely interest, but the room never got a game off the ground.
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10-22-2013 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JKobak
I have talked to some fellow players about the BBJ and almost everyone agrees that the mini BBJ is a waste of money. It prevents the main BBJ from raising to relatively large number (e.i. $150,000) that temps players to come in and play poker for the sake of the BBJ. If anything they should start the losing BBJ hand at quad Ks and lower it to quads Qs for every $20,000 or so the BBJ rises.

Just a suggestion. If anything, raise the qualifying losing hand for the mini BBJ to quad 2s not Aces Full.

With a 52 table room you think at a point you would see the BBJ rise to $200,000 or so but I feel the mini bad beats prevent that.
I disagree.

There will be a day where MDL needs to get creative with promotions, maybe concentrate on creating a high BBJ, but that day is not today and is probably years away. They have no problem getting people in the door and won't have any problems for some time. The goal right now should be to sustain the player pool. And that's what the smaller promotions do.

If you have many people winning a few hundred here and a thousand there, they're going to gamble with that few hundred and thousand. No one is going to win $1000 and say, "wow I should put this in savings." All of that money gets gambled again and spread around to other players. But when you have only a handful of people winning five figures, that's when money leaves the player pool. If a guy wins $40k he's not going to gamble it all away. We'd be lucky to see $5k of it come back into the player pool.

Smaller promotions are best right now for the players and the casino.

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10-22-2013 , 11:08 AM
I was part of a mini bad beat jackpot and I was excited it happened and excited that it can happen mostly any day with a good chance. Its actually that jackpot that keeps me interested. The mega is SEVERELY difficult to hit...look live has been running non stop since it opened and the mega just hit. I think that says enough. I certainly don't come to live thinking I will hit the mega, but I certainly do come thinking I can hit the mini...because we did and so have many others.
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10-22-2013 , 11:39 AM
Also in favor of keeping the mini BBJ as is.
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10-22-2013 , 11:48 AM
Since Mike is in the mood to introduce new promotions I will throw in my 2c/wish list:

1. Please change the breaks on tourny's from EOL 6 to once every 4 levels. If you want you can let the rebuy period end at EOL 8 or second break.

2. The low buy-in events are gaining popularity (Mon/Wed nooner), as I said before, we don't mind if you want to start at Noon and break every 4 levels. Please introduce more of these buy-in's during weekdays for Nov.

3. Tropicana has a bad beat jackpot for Tournaments. If possible please bring that to MD Live. Also, I am with the group that supports mini BBJ, more chances to hit it would mean more happy customers.

4. A souvenir for the Tourny champion (like a card protector) would be great. I am even happy to provide a graphic image for the same.

MD Live!
Poker Room
Tourny Champion
Where the action is always Live!

GolfPro
Mike for the record, got knocked out in 20th, 15 paid, so close yet so far!
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10-22-2013 , 12:21 PM
Does 2x Tuesday promotion work for poker?
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10-22-2013 , 01:23 PM
Everything GolfPro said except the souvenir. Trinkets are worthless imo and always end up as trash.

A monthly tournament leaderboard with a prize or tournament entry would be great.

Yesterday's tournament was very good. 6 way chop and I walked out with $1361. Nice. No trinket necessary.
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10-22-2013 , 02:00 PM
Congrats Coy_Roy on the six way chop.

The trinkets serve as souvenir's/publicity for the room and their tournaments. Similar to what Aria does.

What time did the Tourny finish? I am not sure whether I played with you or not. I was sitting at the second table from the podium. My knockout hand was 78s < AhAd on a K4s8c flop. The turn helped me a little with 6d, but river was a blank with 9h. I was sitting beside the CT dealer.

GolfPro
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10-22-2013 , 02:00 PM
I personally think it's absolute nonsense the mega jackpot is so difficult to hit given it never gets particularly large. At least move the mega to any quads over quads. Losing with quad 10s and winning the minibad beat when the prize would be in the hundreds of thousands at other casinos is annoying.

I see the current mini bad beat is $2111. So that means if you lost a 1.5-2k pot with quad tens you would end up profiting 0-$300? Meanwhile, if you lost a pot with quad 7s at Charles Town you'd profit somewhere in the neighborhood of 16K with the ridiculously low jackpot of 32K atm.

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10-22-2013 , 02:10 PM
GolfPro thanks. The tournament ended a bit after 7 I believe. I'm pretty sure the late tournament had already started. As we were getting paid, entrants for that tournament were still filing in.

I was wearing a short-sleeve green shirt w/white stripe and a small Reebok label. Scruffy moustache and goatee.
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10-22-2013 , 02:19 PM
Many pages ago, Mike stated that his theory with jackpots is to spread the winning around among more people. I agree with this. Everyone has a chance to hit the mini BBJP, or at least be at a table where a Royal hits. That's nice.

My comp points are starting to add up since I don't eat there every time I play. I looked through the souvenir shop, and if my points add up much more, I might buy a Live shirt - I'd be happy if that's what I did with my comp points. I'm not 100% sure comp points can be redeemed for "trinkets" like this, but I'd hope so. Anyway, my point is that if Live wants to offer a card protector in the gift shop, that is something that some people would buy (especially if they could use comp points), but they wouldn't have to worry about others throwing it away if they just won it in a tournament and didn't want it.
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10-22-2013 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Coy_Roy
A monthly tournament leaderboard with a prize or tournament entry would be great.
This is an outstanding idea. Points for finishes (9/10) ... free entry as a prize or a cash prize all together. So many great things can come of this.
However, it is still early, and who knows if this hasn't already been discussed by Mike and Co.
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10-22-2013 , 02:45 PM
I understand the idea of spreading the bad beat around. What I don't understand is approval of a system where losing with something like quad tens can actually be a negative ev thing which seems pretty clear given an individuals loss in a hand can easily get above 50% of the mini bad beat. That really makes 0 sense to me.
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10-22-2013 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nearsighted1
2 separate rooms in Tunica have different solutions.

At the Grand, they have a self-serve soda fountain near the tournament

At the Gold Strike, they have a self-serve hot dog warmer with a steamed bun tray underneath.

Both are complimentary to players.

That could solve some of the issues, and let waitresses focus on alcohol and more complicated food orders
i agree

at the MGM in Detroit, the poker room has the self-serve soda fountain, as well as the self-serve hot dog stand AND free snacks - chips, candy bars, m&m's etc.

i think it's pretty cool

don't know where any of these amenities would fit in Maryland Live's poker room, but if a place can be found, that would be grand
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10-22-2013 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by foobar
Yes, that's accurate based on earlier posts ITT.
interesting . . .

on Friday, i was told 1 hour to check-in
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10-22-2013 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by socialrunner
Sorry for not being more clear. The last time we discussed it I remember talking about how eventually the reserve fund would exceed the main jackpot due to the frequency with which the mini jackpot and royal flushes are paid out. I thought we reached the point where the reserve fund exceeded the main one a while ago. Just wondering if a) that isn't the case, b) they moved some of the reserve fund into the main or paid it out to the smaller jackpots, or c) something else?
there is most likely a reserve, or several reserves, on the reserve . . .

makes good business sense
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10-22-2013 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Smith
I agree and I am considering discontinuing call ins on weekends

Thanks

Mike
oh, no, Mike!
please don't discontinue the call-ins on weekends

i used it for the 1st time this weekend, both Saturday and Sunday, and it worked wonderfully, and made for a smooth poker playing experience
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10-22-2013 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by trob888
If a guy wins $40k he's not going to gamble it all away. We'd be lucky to see $5k of it come back into the player pool.

Smaller promotions are best right now for the players and the casino.
my guess is you've not seen the guy play, who won the [almost] $40,000 from the mega bad beat jackpot on Sunday night

well, i have and it's my guess almost ALL of that $40,000 will be gambled away

as a matter of fact, in a 2/5 game, dude raised $40 preflop with the 3c 4c he lost the hand, but won the mega bad beat jackpot with - and the guy who called the $40 preflop with 8c 9c says he just felt like calling

c'est la poker
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