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01-15-2014 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by trob888
I ordered a rise as shine last week and they gave it to me with Mahi Mahi instead of potatoes wtf. Might have just been a mistake
It's a pretty serious one. Seafood allergies can be quite serious. (I myself have a mild reaction to pretty much any seafood but canned tuna)
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01-15-2014 , 10:50 PM
Is there a list somewhere of all the places that accept comps?
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01-15-2014 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Crozbee
Is there a list somewhere of all the places that accept comps?
Buffet, noodles, Phillips, prime rib, gift shop
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01-16-2014 , 12:02 AM
thanks
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01-16-2014 , 12:27 AM
For those discussing whether the casino puts more waitresses in the pit than the poker room because blackjack tables make more than poker tables-- you perhaps do not understand the shania of casino design.

Consider the revenue of a given blackjack table is x, and a given casino has 10 blackjack tables; therefore, their table games revenue is 10x. Consider also that the revenue of a poker table is .25x.

It follows then that a casino with 10 blackjack tables that removed one and replaced it with a poker table would have revenue 9.25x, but anyone who played in Perryville the first days their poker room was open will tell you this is probably not true, and the real number would be higher than 10x.

This is a result of the presence of both games under the same roof; the pit, poker room and slots in any casino all complement each other. A casino with 10 poker tables would bring in 2.5x, so the trick is in the balance. Tying this back into the situation with the waitresses -- the objective of the casino is to stimulate their clients to make -EV decisions.

I think it's fair to say two things on this point that support the idea that the establishment maximizes profit by catering to everyone:

1. We are more likely to make -EV decisions while drinking, and the more -EV the decision, the greater the profit for the casino generally.
2. The most -EV decision one can make in a casino poker room? Leave and go play in the pit.
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01-16-2014 , 01:06 AM
Numbers from the Maryland Lottery - Maryland Gaming Financial Report:

December 2013 -
Non-Banked Games (Poker) Revenue: $ 2,356,030.00
Banked Games (All Other Table) Revenue: $ 17,819,515.28

All Other Tables Games 7.6 Times More Revenue Than Poker Tables.

Where does the smart money put the majority of waitresses?
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01-16-2014 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Degenfish
2. The most -EV decision one can make in a casino poker room? Leave and go play in the pit.
That, sir, is bloody brilliant.

You should work for the casinos.

But - the question then is - do you have more success driving players to the table games by giving them crap service at poker or by letting them get wasted, lose to the good players, then to chase losses at the pit?
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01-16-2014 , 08:54 AM
The suggestion of book cooking is a huge stretch. Maryland's auditing the casinos very regularly - even if the casinos / poker room don't make the information publicly known, there are neutral parties that are going to know what's happening to every penny that passes through those doors.
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01-16-2014 , 09:36 AM
Regarding the new menu, I just got the email, it looks like they got rid of the fish tacos... that's a real bummer as it was one of my go to items.

http://www.marylandlivecasino.com/as...eafoodMenu.pdf
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01-16-2014 , 10:04 AM
Well they sure wrecked Tuesday, the 6000 chip tournaments are the worst; unless you like
being short-stacked from the first hand and with the re-enter you can get called and beaten by 58 offsuit, a guy bets 3500 into you out of 6000 and that's the end of story. Its a really horrible format, the old Tuesday night one was ok; Then raising the Tuesday afternoon tournament from 220 to 320 knocked out 2'3rds of the entries, instead of 100+ entries, this week they had 40. Some of the dealers say this is all by design, they would rather have four tables than taking up 10 tables and 10 dealers. That would be consistent
with the way MdLive runs the table games, damn the player, lets have one 100 table instead of 10 $10 tables. So as a craps venue, the place is worthless for all but the drug dealers. The 220 Tuesday tournament was fine, why would they have messed with it- and the 6000 chip tournaments- they should cost 60 to enter, not 150 or 120.
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01-16-2014 , 10:28 AM
The quicker people come to realize that tournaments are not a priority for MD Live, the better. At least not until they expand the room or demand shifts (possible when other nearby casinos open up).
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01-16-2014 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Igotdenutz
Been watching this thread for a while and I guess one of the questions I would ask is 'Aren't these all union represented waitresses?" If so, then MDL may not be able to put 10 on the floor at once. Contractual obligations and all, but it shouldn't stop them from hiring some good ones, although it seems licensing may

Nutz
Some of this may be true, but shouldn't be used as an excuse

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Originally Posted by spacejam8
I definitely agree. I've worked banquet/catering events before, and it's really obvious that the poker room at MDL is understaffed. They definitely need to put more servers on the floor, but I was just pointing out the problems with being overstaffed as well, which is something management would be concerned about.

If I had to guess, I would say they need something like 3-4 more waitresses for the whole room on busy night, to optimize service.

I doubt Mike really has much if any authority on waitress staffing, but I'm sure he can mention it to the right people and hopefully at some point they make some changes. I personally don't mind going to the bar for a drink, but for those of you who do, it might be worth it to try to get in contact with other people at the casino who may have the power to fix it.
Just an FYI- I do send all the complaints I read on here to the F & B people. I'm hopeful that this week things improve as they have put in dedicated servers instead of rotated servers.

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How many super satellite winners the past few days?
There have been 3 so far. One each day

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Originally Posted by stimpy4242
Got an email that Phillips has a new menu. Yeah it was new alright, boy the prices have increased in the neighborhood of 40% on some items. The Rise and Shine which was a good breakfast deal has gone from $5 to $7 and nothing has changed...HOLY CRAP!!! They did add a few additional options and removed some others...still no salads!
Still a work in progress and I have passed this on as well

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Originally Posted by foobar
Limit hold em players. Check out bravo for featured limit games. Mike and crew have been great about supporting the game and now we're trying to set some regular days/times in hopes of getting the games going more regularly.

20/40 Fridays at 3 and Saturdays at noon.

50/100 Mondays and Thursdays at 8 pm.

Hope to see you out there.
We do hope this helps. Foobar has been diligent along with one of our supervisors trying to get these to go

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Originally Posted by Degenfish
For those discussing whether the casino puts more waitresses in the pit than the poker room because blackjack tables make more than poker tables-- you perhaps do not understand the shania of casino design.

Consider the revenue of a given blackjack table is x, and a given casino has 10 blackjack tables; therefore, their table games revenue is 10x. Consider also that the revenue of a poker table is .25x.

It follows then that a casino with 10 blackjack tables that removed one and replaced it with a poker table would have revenue 9.25x, but anyone who played in Perryville the first days their poker room was open will tell you this is probably not true, and the real number would be higher than 10x.

This is a result of the presence of both games under the same roof; the pit, poker room and slots in any casino all complement each other. A casino with 10 poker tables would bring in 2.5x, so the trick is in the balance. Tying this back into the situation with the waitresses -- the objective of the casino is to stimulate their clients to make -EV decisions.

I think it's fair to say two things on this point that support the idea that the establishment maximizes profit by catering to everyone:

1. We are more likely to make -EV decisions while drinking, and the more -EV the decision, the greater the profit for the casino generally.
2. The most -EV decision one can make in a casino poker room? Leave and go play in the pit.
This could be right, but it confused the heck out me

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Originally Posted by Kmslrr
Well they sure wrecked Tuesday, the 6000 chip tournaments are the worst; unless you like
being short-stacked from the first hand and with the re-enter you can get called and beaten by 58 offsuit, a guy bets 3500 into you out of 6000 and that's the end of story. Its a really horrible format, the old Tuesday night one was ok; Then raising the Tuesday afternoon tournament from 220 to 320 knocked out 2'3rds of the entries, instead of 100+ entries, this week they had 40. Some of the dealers say this is all by design, they would rather have four tables than taking up 10 tables and 10 dealers. That would be consistent
with the way MdLive runs the table games, damn the player, lets have one 100 table instead of 10 $10 tables. So as a craps venue, the place is worthless for all but the drug dealers. The 220 Tuesday tournament was fine, why would they have messed with it- and the 6000 chip tournaments- they should cost 60 to enter, not 150 or 120.
Probably didnt have anything to do with the Borgata this week



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Mike
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01-16-2014 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Smith



Probably didnt have anything to do with the Borgata this week



Thanks



Mike
Whether it did or did not still doesn't negate the fact that the tournament structures are getting worse, not better for the players with a smaller, more average tournament bankroll.
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01-16-2014 , 08:25 PM
Will there be any additional tables in use for the $600 tourney on Sunday, or will everything be the same as a normal Sunday $330? Sometimes those waitlists get loooong if you're not there near the start. It seems like the tournament could support another table or two, especially if this one will have more demand (and I have no idea if it will or not.)
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01-16-2014 , 08:26 PM
Also, how much of the $600 buy-in goes to the prize pool? I don't see that listed anywhere.
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01-17-2014 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jedinemesis
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This is an excellent post. Coy_Roy, if you're complaining just because complaining is fun for you then that's fine. But if you really believe that you're somehow entitled to affordable tournaments with good structures at a reasonable vig when MDL essentially has no competition and therefore those tournaments don't make business sense, then you should stop posting because you've lost touch with reality.
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01-17-2014 , 09:39 AM
FWIW can someone please fix the link in the first post to the poker page?

http://www.marylandlivecasino.com/casino/live-poker/ is no longer good

It's http://www.marylandlivecasino.com/casino/poker/ now
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01-17-2014 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo
The suggestion of book cooking is a huge stretch. Maryland's auditing the casinos very regularly - even if the casinos / poker room don't make the information publicly known, there are neutral parties that are going to know what's happening to every penny that passes through those doors.
Name one neutral party that audits the books for MD Live?

Hint, the state is not one of them as they generate revenue from the place.
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01-17-2014 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cf410
Name one neutral party that audits the books for MD Live?

Hint, the state is not one of them as they generate revenue from the place.
So now not only is the casino moving money around from the BBJ - which generates in one of the least profitable areas of the Casino in general - in a fishy way to rip off players, but agents from the STATE are in on it.

I'm out.
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01-17-2014 , 01:11 PM
First night of featured limit hold em game was a success. We played 50/100 last night from 8 pm - 4 am. Game was 8 or 9 handed most of the night. Great game, come check it out.
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01-17-2014 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by UMTerp
Will there be any additional tables in use for the $600 tourney on Sunday, or will everything be the same as a normal Sunday $330? Sometimes those waitlists get loooong if you're not there near the start. It seems like the tournament could support another table or two, especially if this one will have more demand (and I have no idea if it will or not.)
At this price point, I don't think it will be a problem. But we should be prepared

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Also, how much of the $600 buy-in goes to the prize pool? I don't see that listed anywhere.
$550 + $50




Thanks




Mike
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01-17-2014 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cf410
Name one neutral party that audits the books for MD Live?

Hint, the state is not one of them as they generate revenue from the place.
Wow. I think you're jumping at shadows and grasping at straws here. The BBJ gets publicly posted on the wall every day. Those #s are in line with the lottery commission's publicly reported revenue. Which is independently audited by Stout, Causey, & Horning, PA., (along with other auditors) to name one.

Furthermore, MDLive just dispersed over half a million $ of the money back to the players. We were all there, we all saw it, most of us recieved some.

Find another conspiracy dude.

Last edited by The Drifter; 01-17-2014 at 01:57 PM.
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01-17-2014 , 04:09 PM
Why is anyone replying to cf410? This guy is not contributing anything of value. Replying to him only feeds his delusions that there is a conspiracy with md live stealing from the bbj fund
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01-17-2014 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Degenfish
For those discussing whether the casino puts more waitresses in the pit than the poker room because blackjack tables make more than poker tables-- you perhaps do not understand the shania of casino design.
What does "shania" mean?
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01-17-2014 , 08:56 PM
20/40 now. Fun game
Not good when massage girls outnumber waitresses 5:1.
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