I average just under 1k hours of poker per year as a serious rec. The perks that come with playing at live and maintaining platinum (streak bonus, tier credits, cruise certificates etc.) Are holding me back from switching most of my hours to MGM.

Room is often full and I'm a sample of 1 though, so likely doesn't matter.



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You're definitely right about the general perks but the comp dollars at MGM are significantly better esp if you're playing time raked games. Not sure what you're playing but at 1000 hours if you're playing time raked games, you're getting $3/hr in comps at MGM which is a significant bump over Live ($1.50/hr Platinum) - especially with the hours your talking.

So no cruises or streak bonus but increased comp $. Dont know, you'ld have to run your own numbers for that to see which is better.

The $2000+ in slot dollars plus multiple cruise vouchers each year easily outweighs $1500 extra in comps than can only be used on food imo.

Comp dollars mean almost nothing to me and a Pain to use at mgm. I have hundreds in comps on my live account (easy to check by logging into their website) no idea what I have accumulated at MGM.

If mgm closed these gaps, I'd switch most of my play here.

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Yeah I know almost nothing about Live comps, thats why I asked.

This is another way MGMNH has really dropped the ball IMO. We've been hearing since the room opened about self service kiosks and easy ways to check/use comp dollars - but nothing's come out of it.

Again, just my opinion.

Unless you live in Virginia and cross the bridge to get to MGM in 20 minutes, there's no reason to play at MGM if you have to pay for parking especially if you live in Montgomery county. Btw, there's no incentive to play poker at MGM since they don't offer you anything besides a few comp $$ that you played. I have played at MGM a dozen times and I don't even get a $ 10 free slot or food coupon, I play at MDLive and I get $15 free slot every week plus a $ 10 food coupon. I also get 2 free NCL cruises every year plus a whole bunch of drawings every week. MGM is nice and new and that's all there is and the wait tend to be longer on the weekend for poker so if they start charging for parking, I think they'll lose their poker players from Montgomery county such as myself who are willing to drive the extra 25 miles to play at MGM. I only play 5 card PLO these days and the 5 5 5 card PLO at MGM is so pathetic that rarely anyone straddle and the game is way to tight. The 5 5 5 card PLO at MDlive is a lot better with the mandatory button straddle from 15 to 25 and they always have 3 to 4 tables for the 2-2 5 card running from Thursday to Sunday. Also, MGM doesn't have a must move for the 1-2 5 card and people tend to play a few hands and as soon as they won, they are back to the NL games and you are forced to play short. The must move at MDlive keeps the games going for days so regardless what time you show up between Thursday and Sunday, there's always a 5 card game waiting for you.

When are they start charging parking? I may have to go there one more time to use up my comps and probably will never return if I have to pay for parking.

In Vegas, if you play 100 hours at one MLife property you get free parking for the year at ALL Mlife properties in Vegas. Does anyone know if that applies to locations outside Vegas as well?

It looks like 2/2 PLO is just as strong at MDL as 1/2 PLO is at MGM in terms of tables and wait list on any given night these days.

I live in MoCo and play low stakes NL. Last year I switched nearly all my play to MGM because:
- the games are better
- the food is better
- the games are better
- the place is nicer
- the games are better
- they have chargers for my plug hybrid

Now I'm also dating a girl who lives in Alexandria so location becomes a huge factor in MGMs favor but really the switch was driven mostly by how much better the 1/3 at NH was compared to the 1/2 at MDL. I haven't been to MDL since they went to 1/3 but MDL entry stakes NL was populated by short stacking grumpy OMC nits and NH had all the action players and that more than parking cost or anything else after location is the biggest determining factor for me.

From last night's WaPo (I hope the link works):

tracking from a casino using GPS

--klez

Wow what a scumbag. People sometimes forget that there are some bad people at these casinos especially Horseshoe.


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How long do you believe it would take for those people to simply sign up for a card to get free parking while they eat or shop? That is why it has to be a card of a certain level or tied to play that day.

Also the casino is glad to have those non players in the shops and restaurants because they know those people will leave cash there. The gamblers do sometimes win and take more home than they brought. The casino might make more from selling an overpriced watch than they do from the average nickel slot players on average.

Will be in Baltimore a few days per week for work over next three months or so... best places to play? I've checked out threads for Horseshoe, MGMNH, and Live, but a lot of information seems old / out of date.

Care more about quality of room & environment/safety than strictly getting into the juiciest games.
$5/10 and perhaps $10/20 if I run well the first few weeks.

Two of those are among the busiest threads around and the shoe isn't that far behind. Heck, mgm has been open just over one year and has how many posts? Plus JG responds quickly to most questions. And you are saying the info is out of date? What have you been reading? Btw IMO for you go to mom.

Sorry I was unclear in my original post. I see the factual information seems up to date but I meant to ask where in MD the locals enjoyed playing / if any rooms were famously action heavy or reg filled / best quality of each room etc. There was very little of this ^ in those threads.


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Generally you don't see a lot of that kind of discussion in this forum because the vast majority of the contributors here are lower-limit players and cardroom employees. Hopefully someone will chime in here to help you out, but it might also be good to post in the low-content thread in the Live Low-stakes NL or Med-High Full Ring to see if the players there are willing to share their insights.

Keep in mind that the higher in stakes you go, the more valuable the information. Therefore, people might be less willing to share it.

If you're "in Baltimore" then MGM isn't exactly an easy choice due to the traffic you will encounter trying to get there during most weekday waking hours. Plan on an hour+ if anywhere between 7am and 7pm weekdays.

Live and Shoe are different beasts, and opinions widely vary (just read this thread) so I recommend giving each a try and form your own opinion. They are less than 15 minutes apart most times except rush hours, so this should be an easily manageable experiment for you.

For one opinion - I enjoy time at both of them. Food better at Shoe, poker service better at Live, Lighting/atmosphere better at Shoe, bigger games more often at Live. (Biggest games usually down at MGM.) Folks say the action at Shoe better, I can't tell from my sampling. Some folks also say Shoe is dangerous, but I've never felt unsafe.

Jan 2018 casino revenue #s are in.
First time comparing full month year to year (yty) comparisons with mgm.

MGM up 2.9% yty
Live down 1%
Horseshoe down .7%

Don't be fooled.
That might not look bad But the other 2 casinos are down alot since MGM opened.

in an earlier post, I listed the #s from Nov 2016-2017 revenue.
Nov 2016 was the last full month before MGM opened.

In that post, Live was down 13.5%, and horse shoe was down 20.3%.

So the slide continues

Feb revenue #s:
https://wtop.com/business-finance/20...-at-horseshoe/

mgm keeps printing $ and is up 16% from a year ago
Live breaks their losing streak and is up 1.5% from a year ago
Horseshoe's slide continues at -2.7%

Saw today that Live is advertising 92.0% payback on their slots as of March 2018.
For MGM,last I saw was last year and it was 89.x%.

Anyone know about horseshoe?

Those numbers almost make me feel bad for the silly people who play slots. Almost.

No because it’s in the DMV. We don’t have good pizza here.


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I've done the same thing. Only one restaurant within miles but I tried to order a chicken parm sub there once and they were like "we don't have that here." Still in business after 6 years though.

I love all pizza. I would eat bowling alley pizza once a week if it were near my office.

Yeah this is wrong. Not comparable to somewhere like new york, but food around here generally sucks (so pretty low bar for a place to be good relative to the other options) and their pizza game is actually relatively good compared to the non big hitter areas.

I would suggest Valentinos, fresh mozzerella is legit.

Its also wrong to call this area dmv, some weird **** being pushed by the news, only out of towners call it that. Nobody in NoVA wants to be grouped with maryland.