It was most likely the revenue earned on temporary tables due the the wsopc?

It took me a while, but I eventually found the original data - and yes, it was a typo. At http://gaming.mdlottery.com/category/press-releases/ you can see in the text the amount Horseshoe (and other MD casinos) made from "non-bank table games". Horseshoe has 25 such tables (so they are all the poker tables), and in August, they made $1,141.70 per poker table per day. That's slightly higher than they had previous months, but it was their 1 year anniversary so I think maybe their promotions brought in extra customers, because their numbers were up in all categories for the month.

I'll be curious to check out the September numbers, to see if it is clear why they raised their take from the rake.

the shoe went back to rake = 6+1 as of yesterday.

so I'm betting even w/increased poker players due to the high hand promos, they didn't make $1,141.70 per poker table per day when they went to 5+2.

interested in sept #s as well.

edit:
July #s: $1042.85 per table per day and that was with 6+1 :shock:

so the aug #s show an increase in per table revenue at 5+2?
(im assuming the bad beat jackpot/promo drop isn't included in the revenue #s?)

Is that just poker revenue divided by days divided by 26 tables, or revenue per 24 table - hours of operation? In other words, are empty tables bringing down the daily per table revenue?

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lets compare oct poker promos:

Shoe:
Tues High Hand/Splash Pot 3pm - 3am $1,000 every 30 minutes -> $700 for the High Hand $100 Splash for the High Hand Table, $100 Splash Pots for 2 other tables.
(Splash pot = random drawing for 1 winner? )

Wednesday 3pm - 3am $500 every 20 minutes

Thursday 3pm - 3am $500 every 30 minutes & Football Splash Pots During all Baltimore Football Games When the Baltimore Football Team Scores you score Field Goal - $50 Offensive Touchdown - $100 Defensive Touchdown - $150 Special Teams Touchdown - $200 Safety - $500

md live:
$500 High Hands Every 20 Minutes! Mondays thru Thursdays 11AM-3AM
$25,000 Sunday Cash Drawings October 18th & 25th, 2PM-12AM


mon-> md live wins since shoe doesn't have a promo
tues- shoe wins
weds- tie, but probably going to the shoe since it's less tables thus more of a chance your high hand holds
thurs- toss up when the Ravens play, else Live
sun- md live wins during the 2 promo days

Shoe's calendar differs from what you posted, and shoe's details on promotions say September, so are we sure about the Shoe list?

I'm looking at Bravo's page for both shoe and md live.
link to shoe's calendar?

https://www.caesars.com/horseshoe-ba...r#.VgwiLiu4F0x

Bravo now lists both September and October promotions for Horseshoe. Here is what it says for October:

October Promotions
7 Days a Week
High Hands $100 every 30 minutes w/Rollovers 3am - 11am
High Hand/Splash Pot Tuesday 3pm - 3am $1,000 every 30 minutes
$700 for the High Hand $100 Splash for the High Hand Table 2 - $100 Splash Pots for 2 other tables
Wednesday 3pm - 3am $500 every 20 minutes
Thursday 3pm - 3am $500 every 30 minutes

daveopie

repost.
u didn't read 4 posts above yours?

I skimmed it. So, yeah, basic reading comprehension fail on my part. LOL.

Yeah, agree on the "who wins each day" summary above. Although, the ML promos start at 11am each day and the Horseshoe ones start at 3pm. I wonder how many people will leave ML at 2:45 on Tuesdays and drive 10 minutes up 295.

Live or Shoe, Live or Shoe... no big promos at either on Friday (no surprise)...

I'm curious how you made your decision. There are pros and cons to each casino, and I'm just wondering which factor was the deciding one.

I have nothing planned for tonight, but with the rain, and the lack of Friday promos (and I still don't like the idea of the higher rake by ML to fund the Mon-Thurs promos), I think I will stay at home and read a book.

What's a book?

Signed, degen

Some longish term planning regarding player rewards:
-I play about 500 or so hours per year
-I play varying stakes of hold em, mostly 2/5
-I don't play pit games
-I am platinum at live


Is Maryland live my best option?
Is this enough play to get 7 stars next year at the horse?
Should I just wait and see what mgm does?

This is no where close to 7 stars at horseshoe. I believe it's damn near impossible to get 7stars playing poker exclusively. Confirm anyone?

I think Live may be your better option, from a comp perspective. The platinum annual streak bonus is pretty good. I think this would more than offset any promo chips/slot dollars Shoe may randomly send your way.

It's the guy you call your sports bet in to. Don't know how he's gonna try to get a read on him though.

500 hours of poker may not even get you Diamond. Play where you think games are better or where you enjoy more. The marginal benefit in comps works out to less than a buck an hour, which isn't worth playing worse games for even at 1/2.

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diamond = 300 hrs
easier than the 500hrs at md live for platinum.

but diamond benefits are limited at the Shoe:
- gift every month or take $25 slot play (= $300/yr)
- free appetizer food at diamond lounge fri/sat nite

platinum benefits @mdlive:
- annual $500 free slot play x # of consecutive years you've had Platinum
ie: 2 years = $1000 slot play ($500 in march, $500 in aug)

- 2 'free' cruises/year (4-11 days, depending on port)-> pay taxes + port fees => ~$350/person for 7day from NYC port
--> Certificates given out Memorial day weekend + Thanksgiving weekend ==> Must pick up on those days else lose them. you have 1year to travel from date of pick up

It boiled down to quality of food and drive time in the rain. Shoe won.

The Maryland Lottery Commission has published the casino profits for September. I was looking through the data, trying to see how the changes in rake by Horseshoe and Maryland Live affected their bottom line. I don't think it is easy to see, partly because they both changed rake in the middle of months, and there are so many other factors that contribute to how successful a poker room is during any particular month. Some months just get more customers than other months. And then there are unpredictable events such as the unrest and curfews in Baltimore last spring.

Here are the published numbers in the format: month / total $ / average take per day each day

Maryland Live

Jan-15 $2,152,927.00 which is $1,335.56 per table per day
Feb-15 $1,939,793.00 which is $1,332.28 per table per day
Mar-15 $2,162,964.00 which is $1,341.79 per table per day
Apr-15 $1,972,581.00 which is $1,264.48 per table per day
May-15 $2,179,887.00 which is $1,352.29 per table per day
Jun-15 $1,941,468.00 which is $1,244.53 per table per day
Jul-15 $2,276,699.00 which is $1,412.34 per table per day
Aug-15 $2,138,142.00 which is $1,326.39 per table per day
Sep-15 $1,891,306.00 which is $1,212.38 per table per day


Horseshoe

Jan-15 $801,146.00 which is $1,033.74 per table per day
Feb-15 $717,870.50 which is $1,025.53 per table per day
Mar-15 $1,134,830.50 which is $1,464.30 per table per day
Apr-15 $715,402.00 which is $953.87 per table per day
May-15 $627,202.00 which is $963.44 per table per day
Jun-15 $761,643.00 which is $1,015.52 per table per day
Jul-15 $808,212.00 which is $1,042.85 per table per day
Aug-15 $884,819.00 which is $1,141.70 per table per day
Sep-15 $688,519.00 which is $918.03 per table per day

i am shocked that sept #s weren't much lower for Live since their flopped hands promo sucked.

and I am shocked that the Shoe's sept #s dropped that much since their high hand promo packed the room. (it helped that players didn't like Live's promo.)
also in sept, shoe went back to 6+1 from 5+2.

so their sept #s are VERY puzzling. (im assuming the bbj drops don't get counted in the #s since all of that $ goes back to the players?)

Comparing the values of the October Tuesday promos at ML and Horseshoe at 5:00pm on Tuesday.

ML is giving away $1,000 every 20 minutes, and have 41 jackpot eligible games going. So $3,000 is being spread out over 410 players (assuming all tables full for simplicity), or $7.32 per hour per person.

Horseshoe is giving away $1,000 every 30 minutes ($700 high hand, plus 3 $100 splash pots), and currently has 15 jackpot eligible games going. So $2,000 / 150 = $13.33 per hour per person.

hey guys, looking to move down to md live area and grind full time, any suggestion on rooms to rent or apartments between the shoe and md live, any info would be much appreciated.
thanks

I live in Northern VA. With the National Harbor casino opening in the summer of 16, you may want to look for a place half way between Maryland Live and National Harbor.