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09-24-2009 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Squibz
^ I'd be surprised by your post if this was any room except Grand Lisboa - you just never know there. However, if you decide that playing there is worth it, ask the floor, but be aware that there isn't really a standard floor ruling, and rulings vary by floor person, so pay attention to who is on floor duty.

Also: as with any situation in poker, if you know how to exploit it, it's +EV, yes.
It is best to ask the supervisory staff and/or the floor who is on duty about a particular ruling. If a specific situation requires further clarification there are house rules available on request from the floor person. Unfortunately we recently lost the majority of our more experienced floor people due to the fact that they were expats VS. Macau politics but we are currently and continuosly working on the level of knowledge of our poker staff.
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09-24-2009 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by isaacicic
I have an idea. They can straddle to raise the stake and only pay 100 capped rake instead of 200.
You are quite right. Didn't think from that angle. Perhaps this will set Bo and dodgy1 thinking about countering such play.

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Originally Posted by BoDiddleyMacau
So did these guys all get an option, or did only the original straddle ($40) get an option?
Yes they all get an option.


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Originally Posted by Quorthon
My first instinct would be to leave that table immediately because they are in effect making it a higher limit table while you are still handicapped by the max. buy-in. If you are a good short stacker this could be OK but judging by their stack sizes they are destroying all comers and quite possibly playing from a combined roll as a team.
agreed. Initially I too thought of adopting a short stack strategy. In fact the American did exactly before I had an opportunity. He ended up losing 2 x $1K buy-in in a single orbit (each time against a different guy from that group). It was then I decided it was probably -EV play bcos
(a) With their option, they can choose 1 or more better hands to re-raise or shove me into a pre-flop coin-flip. (assuming they are colluding ... and I am leaning towards that as I saw them did the same thing the next day).
(b) posting less than the standard straddle, I get less value even if they all fold to my pf raise (which had to be super agressive) or shove.
(c) I will not get enough premium hand to play against 4 guys with position on me and a stack of just 37.5BB ($3000 max buy-in vis-a-vis their re-re-straddle).


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Originally Posted by dodgy1
To clarifly: Single straddle is standard practice at GL. I have not seen any cases of multiple straddles being allowed although blind raises in the dark do occur from time to time.
Thanks. So is it not allowed or you just haven't seen one?
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09-24-2009 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 21RedOdd




Thanks. So is it not allowed or you just haven't seen one?
Come and chat with me about it next time you're in. I shouldn't be too hard to spot being a white guy in a suit working in the poker room See you there.
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09-24-2009 , 02:24 PM
You see this all the time on HSP & PAD cash cash games. They allow multiple straddles but most casinos only allow one.

This 40 to 60 to 80 is LOL. If anything it should be 40-80-160.
I love multiple straddle games, you have people voluntarily putting in more money blind in early position. It's great for the game!


Btw, how is the other new (lan gwai fong) poker room doing? Just hear about games from GL & Wynn.
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09-24-2009 , 02:41 PM
lol at leaving the table. You only have to put in 30 blind per round and they have to put in 10 + 20 + 40 + 60 + 80 = 210. If you can't beat this game, you obviously need to come to my home game. I will give you $900 extra for every $100 you buy-in.
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09-24-2009 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by isaacicic
lol at leaving the table. You only have to put in 30 blind per round and they have to put in 10 + 20 + 40 + 60 + 80 = 210. If you can't beat this game, you obviously need to come to my home game. I will give you $900 extra for every $100 you buy-in.
And I get to bring over 3 friends to sit at your 10 man table of randoms?

Address please.
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09-24-2009 , 03:21 PM
It doesn't matter if they collude or not. They have to post $210 per round and you only have to post $30. The edge should be big enough that any donk can beat it.
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09-24-2009 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dodgy1
Come and chat with me about it next time you're in. I shouldn't be too hard to spot being a white guy in a suit working in the poker room See you there.
Invitation accepted
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09-25-2009 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stressed

Btw, how is the other new (lan gwai fong) poker room doing? Just hear about games from GL & Wynn.
Closed, although I have heard rumor that they were just "relocating it" to a different part of the casino.
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09-29-2009 , 02:56 AM
Hey guys I'm planning on going to HK next month for a vacation and was thinking about heading to Macau to play in some poker. I'm thinking about spending 3 nights there and look for a room thats 100 dollars per night or so, cheaper the better =).

I read the last 10 or so pages like last month and im too lazy to read them again:P. Could anyone give me there experience in these games? how soft were they? with the higher rake are u expected to tip? which hotel u stayed in?

thanks!
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09-29-2009 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AmbitiousDreamer
I read the last 10 or so pages like last month and im too lazy to read them again:P. Could anyone give me there experience in these games? how soft were they? with the higher rake are u expected to tip? which hotel u stayed in?

thanks!
Games are soft to moderate depending what stakes you play.

There is no tipping in Asia, unless you are an American trying to spoil it for everyone else.

I live here so someone else will need to help you with the hotel part.
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09-29-2009 , 05:54 AM
I heard a rumor that they are opening PLO Oct. 1st at the MGM. Does anyone know if it will be Hi/Lo or just high?

thanks in advance. I will be playing in Macau on the 3-??? Please let me know who you are so I can avoid playing pots with you. Haha.
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09-29-2009 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jcoe31
I heard a rumor that they are opening PLO Oct. 1st at the MGM. Does anyone know if it will be Hi/Lo or just high?
I would be very surprised if this is true. I would be more surprised if it is successful.
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09-29-2009 , 10:18 AM
What is the slowest day in a week and how many tables are running that day would you guys who know estimate? Also please mention the stakes thanks!
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09-29-2009 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Quorthon
I would be very surprised if this is true. I would be more surprised if it is successful.
EDIT: Actually I know that this game has not been approved by the regulators here, so it is def. not true.
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09-29-2009 , 10:00 PM
Heh, if they keep the rake as high as it is for NLHE, PLO will be OK for a couple of months while more people are learning, and then become a new Baccarat once edges are smaller.
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09-30-2009 , 01:54 AM
I haven't played at the GL, but it looks like they've got 4 tables running usually.

At The Wynn, it's usually 6 tables of low limits (10-25, 25-50) and 1-2 tables of high limit (50-100, 100-200). They only play the 100-200 when there is enough interest. (ALL HKD)

The rake is 5% per pot capped at 100 for the 10-25, and 200 for the 25-50. I'm not sure about the higher limit. On weekdays there are a lot of regulars and on weekends there are people in from Hong Kong and China. Tables get crowded around 10 PM (waiting time 15-30 minutes), and they stay that way till around 4 AM.

As for softness, that depends on your game. Don't forget that you also have to beat the rake, which is capped pretty high.
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10-02-2009 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by thomas.t
What is the slowest day in a week and how many tables are running that day would you guys who know estimate? Also please mention the stakes thanks!
Agreed that weekdays are slow, but GL has at least 2 to 3 full tables every nite...game is slightly harder on weekdays....

Weekends are another story, with all the HK and China players, the game gets very soft....

Holidays (like these next 7 days) are the best....the Chinese players will flock their and they are the best one to play against...
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10-11-2009 , 06:17 PM
The state of poker in Asia is clearly different, the trickier players, more table talking, ungraceful tauntings and limp reraises spells my visit to the GL Poker room. The games are very soft, the players are mostly beginners with a few capable amatuers. Noticed the poker room is also badly ran, the dealers makes a lot of errors, probably because the game is still very new in Macau.

PS:I don't know if you guys notice it or not, but Vancouver B&M had some tougher games, ain't so easy compared to rest of the world? I've been to Miami and Macau this year, been able to run over the games easily but not in Vancouver.
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10-12-2009 , 06:18 AM
Any idea when its possible to register November tournaments thru PokerStars client?
At the moment Oct 25th tournaments are the last ones to register.
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10-12-2009 , 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ovaltine88
The state of poker in Asia is clearly different, the trickier players, more table talking, ungraceful tauntings and limp reraises spells my visit to the GL Poker room. The games are very soft,
Wow, are the players really so bad where you come from? Where is it?
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10-12-2009 , 06:44 PM
I don't know if its the way I play, but I get players limp reraising me all the time, also Macau players are more prone to slowplaying Aces. No betting preflop or postflop. I met with this dude from Hong Kong, he claims he played for 2 months, never lost a session, and is playing professionally. Many Chinese nationals trying to learn the game. Motherland way softer than my homeland. This is gonna be Asia's Vegas, hope there is poker boom.
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10-12-2009 , 11:38 PM
can someone please direct me to a cantonese or chinese version of 2+2 / poker information site?

thanks
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10-13-2009 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanDyer
can someone please direct me to a cantonese or chinese version of 2+2 / poker information site?

thanks
http://www.astarpoker.com

http://www.pokertvasia.com
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10-13-2009 , 11:56 PM
Probably the minimum age for casinos will be raised to 21 in a few months. Woot
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