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09-10-2009 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by $INGAPORE
Isolate and bet,bet bet
Concur.

Just be sure to have some sort of hand cause they don't fold. Value cutting yourself would be horrible.

Against the regs, def keep barreling.
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09-11-2009 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Joerii
Sorry for asking a beginners question but :what does isolation mean ?

Location: Playing micro headsup SNG's

You should be a master at isolating
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09-13-2009 , 01:31 AM
I am tired of these ***** slowrolls. 4 players to the river. check check check, bet, call call call. 3 players show. The button spent 30 seconds staring at his opponents' cards and trying to figure out what they have before finally showing the NUTS!!!

Another one that really pisses me off. I called a tiny all-in bet on the turn into a BIG BIG pot. I ask if he got a hand on the river and he acted like he doesn't so I showed my hand then he showed me the nuts. WTF?!!!! He was european not chinese btw.
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09-13-2009 , 11:28 AM
Today I played my first live tournament in PokerStars Macau, KO Bounty 15K Guarantee.

Dealers are good and handle everything quite well.

Managed to ship it and had a very nice time there, good job Danny and all the staff.

However, players should be informed beforehand that late reg is allowed (at least I didn't know that). So sad that the huge overlay disappear during first hour after it filled up (20 players)
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09-16-2009 , 04:07 AM
It seems that the hype around macau poker has died alittle bit later.

Can anyone update me of the poker scene there please? How is the action all week thru? Is it possible to find good games at weekdays? How does the future look like, is poker there to stay?

Thanks!
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09-16-2009 , 04:43 AM
Rock gardens, possible, yes
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09-16-2009 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by garcia1000
Rock gardens, possible, yes
Agreed, usually during the week games are tighter, as you know. But you never know when randoms are going to show up.

I just watched a guy in a 10/25 game call a check raise to $600 on a flop of
4KK. Turn blank. He then led for $125 on the turn (HU) and was promplty raised to $650 AI. He called. River blank. AI tables KQ. Caller tables A 9 off for A high no draw.

So you just never know...
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09-16-2009 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BoDiddleyMacau
I just watched a guy in a 10/25 game call a check raise to $600 on a flop of
4KK. Turn blank. He then led for $125 on the turn (HU) and was promplty raised to $650 AI. He called. River blank. AI tables KQ. Caller tables A 9 off for A high no draw.

So you just never know...
Either I have the worst table selection skills in the history of poker or you are exaggerating wildly!!

Or perhaps I should play at Wynn instead...

Last edited by Quorthon; 09-16-2009 at 02:55 PM. Reason: Logic
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09-17-2009 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Quorthon
Either I have the worst table selection skills in the history of poker or you are exaggerating wildly!!

Or perhaps I should play at Wynn instead...
Not exaggerating, I couldn't believe it either. Unfortunately it doesn't happen often enough.
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09-17-2009 , 07:29 PM
hey aj....u should knw by the name who dis is...lol had to leave in a hurry my friend booked my flight a day early!! got home in one piece anyway i ave ur number so il give u a call before i head bac out but if u ave any news keep me posted.....
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09-21-2009 , 10:13 AM
Games dried up alot in Macau since APPT is over. Heading to Europe....Any recommandations?
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09-22-2009 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BoDiddleyMacau
Agreed, usually during the week games are tighter, as you know. But you never know when randoms are going to show up.

I just watched a guy in a 10/25 game call a check raise to $600 on a flop of
4KK. Turn blank. He then led for $125 on the turn (HU) and was promplty raised to $650 AI. He called. River blank. AI tables KQ. Caller tables A 9 off for A high no draw.

So you just never know...
I thought the A was good Bo. And I was ahead pre-flop, so he's an idiot for even getting into that hand with me.
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09-22-2009 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by noah_the_donkey
I thought the A was good Bo. And I was ahead pre-flop, so he's an idiot for even getting into that hand with me.
Even you don't play that bad.

On another note, watched a Chinese guy lose 15k in a 10-25 game yesterday on table 2. He even left happy. As always, it's hit or miss.
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09-23-2009 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gaijinuronin
Games dried up alot in Macau since APPT is over. Heading to Europe....Any recommandations?
You should wait until the end of the October communist holiday - it's 8 days off - there should be an influx of mainland fish.
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09-23-2009 , 01:26 AM
This happened a few days ago and made me wonder....

I joined a 10/20 table on Seat 1 at GL with 4 European guys on Seat 2 to 5. Despite the small stake, each of them had a stack of $8 to 12K (not sure how they got there). After posting BB for my 1st hand, Seat 2 straddle for $40, Seat 3 re-straddle by posting $60, and Seat 4 re-re-straddle for $80. From the reaction of the other players (3 Chinese and an American), this has been going on for a while and they seems to accept it. While I was asking the dealer if Seat 3 and 4 should post $80 and $160 instead for their respective straddle, the European guys claimed that straddle is no difference from posting a "raise-in-the-dark", so they were right to post $60 and $80 since each is a min raise of the previous "bet/raise". I explained that the difference is straddle gets an option to raise if it was limped to him but for a raise-in-the-dark, he does not get that option. However, the Dealer agreed with them and with the rest nodding in apparent agreement, I decided to go along with it.

Can someone clarify if I interpreted the rule correctly or is it a case of house rule? If it is the latter, is it applied consistently at other Macau poker rooms too? Given the deep stack they had, there is also the advantage of practically changing a 10/20 table into a $60/80 table and forcing the rest into playing super tight. Is it +ev or -ev to play at this table?
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09-23-2009 , 03:29 AM
^ I'd be surprised by your post if this was any room except Grand Lisboa - you just never know there. However, if you decide that playing there is worth it, ask the floor, but be aware that there isn't really a standard floor ruling, and rulings vary by floor person, so pay attention to who is on floor duty.

Also: as with any situation in poker, if you know how to exploit it, it's +EV, yes.
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09-23-2009 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 21RedOdd
I joined a 10/20 table on Seat 1 at GL with 4 European guys on Seat 2 to 5. Despite the small stake, each of them had a stack of $8 to 12K (not sure how they got there). After posting BB for my 1st hand, Seat 2 straddle for $40, Seat 3 re-straddle by posting $60, and Seat 4 re-re-straddle for $80.
I would be off that table is such a hurry, the dealer wouldn't have time to take back the empty seat marker.

Who in their right mind would play at that table with 4 obvious friends who are jacking up the stakes with such a high possibility of collusion?
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09-23-2009 , 06:37 AM
I have an idea. They can straddle to raise the stake and only pay 100 capped rake instead of 200.
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09-23-2009 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 21RedOdd
This happened a few days ago and made me wonder....

I joined a 10/20 table on Seat 1 at GL with 4 European guys on Seat 2 to 5. Despite the small stake, each of them had a stack of $8 to 12K (not sure how they got there). After posting BB for my 1st hand, Seat 2 straddle for $40, Seat 3 re-straddle by posting $60, and Seat 4 re-re-straddle for $80. From the reaction of the other players (3 Chinese and an American), this has been going on for a while and they seems to accept it. While I was asking the dealer if Seat 3 and 4 should post $80 and $160 instead for their respective straddle, the European guys claimed that straddle is no difference from posting a "raise-in-the-dark", so they were right to post $60 and $80 since each is a min raise of the previous "bet/raise". I explained that the difference is straddle gets an option to raise if it was limped to him but for a raise-in-the-dark, he does not get that option. However, the Dealer agreed with them and with the rest nodding in apparent agreement, I decided to go along with it.

Can someone clarify if I interpreted the rule correctly or is it a case of house rule? If it is the latter, is it applied consistently at other Macau poker rooms too? Given the deep stack they had, there is also the advantage of practically changing a 10/20 table into a $60/80 table and forcing the rest into playing super tight. Is it +ev or -ev to play at this table?
You will probably get a more technically correct answer if you post this in the B&M forum.

My first instinct would be to leave that table immediately because they are in effect making it a higher limit table while you are still handicapped by the max. buy-in. If you are a good short stacker this could be OK but judging by their stack sizes they are destroying all comers and quite possibly playing from a combined roll as a team.
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09-23-2009 , 08:05 AM
Random question for the casino employees (and the savvy, I guess) here:

Would any room ever consider time charge instead of rake?
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09-23-2009 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 21RedOdd
I explained that the difference is straddle gets an option to raise if it was limped to him but for a raise-in-the-dark, he does not get that option. However, the Dealer agreed with them and with the rest nodding in apparent agreement, I decided to go along with it.
So did these guys all get an option, or did only the original straddle ($40) get an option? Like Squibz said, you never know what's going to happen there, and trying to explain how things "should be" will just frustrate you.

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Originally Posted by 21RedOdd
If it is the latter, is it applied consistently at other Macau poker rooms too?
No, The Wynn only allows one straddle. Anything after that is just a blind raise and does not get an option. The "blind raise" must be double the straddle, as a straddle should be viewed as a third blind (since it gets last option).
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09-23-2009 , 08:44 AM
Nitpicking here Bo, but is the second blind raise after the blind raise to the straddle double the blind raise, or just a minraise?
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09-23-2009 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Squibz
Nitpicking here Bo, but is the second blind raise after the blind raise to the straddle double the blind raise, or just a minraise?
Squibz let's clarify.

A=Straddle
B=Straddle +1
C=Straddle+2
D=Straddle+3

So lets say 100/200

A straddles for 400
B Blind raises to 800
C can then blind raise for 1200 to all-in

Is this the answer you were looking for?
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09-23-2009 , 10:45 AM
^^^This is right.

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Originally Posted by Squibz
Nitpicking here Bo, but is the second blind raise after the blind raise to the straddle double the blind raise, or just a minraise?
I think you just wanted to write something that I had to read six times to understand?!

The first blind raise is double the straddle. The second and third blind raises can be min raises because, after all, it's just a normal raise (without looking).
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09-24-2009 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 21RedOdd
This happened a few days ago and made me wonder....

I joined a 10/20 table on Seat 1 at GL with 4 European guys on Seat 2 to 5. Despite the small stake, each of them had a stack of $8 to 12K (not sure how they got there). After posting BB for my 1st hand, Seat 2 straddle for $40, Seat 3 re-straddle by posting $60, and Seat 4 re-re-straddle for $80. From the reaction of the other players (3 Chinese and an American), this has been going on for a while and they seems to accept it. While I was asking the dealer if Seat 3 and 4 should post $80 and $160 instead for their respective straddle, the European guys claimed that straddle is no difference from posting a "raise-in-the-dark", so they were right to post $60 and $80 since each is a min raise of the previous "bet/raise". I explained that the difference is straddle gets an option to raise if it was limped to him but for a raise-in-the-dark, he does not get that option. However, the Dealer agreed with them and with the rest nodding in apparent agreement, I decided to go along with it.

Can someone clarify if I interpreted the rule correctly or is it a case of house rule? If it is the latter, is it applied consistently at other Macau poker rooms too? Given the deep stack they had, there is also the advantage of practically changing a 10/20 table into a $60/80 table and forcing the rest into playing super tight. Is it +ev or -ev to play at this table?
To clarifly: Single straddle is standard practice at GL. I have not seen any cases of multiple straddles being allowed although blind raises in the dark do occur from time to time.
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