Any news about Omaha cash games?
I think there is one PLO Event at APT... Do they have license for PLO cash games after the APT?

Hi,
I'm planning on visiting Macao 14 to 28 in august.
I read that the gambling legal age there was 18, is it still the same now ?
(I heard something about they wanted to increase it to 21)

I'll be heading back to Macau for the APPT and the APT. Last news was that the APT guys all got asked to leave Macau cos their working with no work permits. Dragged off by immigration in the middle of a tournament no less. Leaving Starworld running no poker games at all, just empty tables. Is this gonna happen during the APT?

Also, from what i hear, Wynn's and Pokerstars have not got any kind of license for omaha. I'd be surprised if APT had managed this. I can remember the original schedule had chinese poker and omaha, but now there's only very generic information on the website and the tournaments have names that could be anything. Wait and see, i guess, and arrange something else to do if they get shut down.

Just got back from a week's trip to Macau.

Played 10/25 and 10/20 and games are awesome. Some people here have claimed that games are dead during the weekdays/afternoons. I didn't see that, since the regs are so awful too, atleast in those games.

After 4pm I usually found multiple tables at Lisboa. Here is an example of a hand I played on a weekday afternoon.

5 limpers I check in the bb with 34s. Flop A108 2 spades, I lead for 100, 2 callers. Turn is a 3, I lead again for 250, 1 caller. River is another 3, I lead for 500, the guy thinks and goes all-in for 600, I insta-call he shows 22.

It's tough to even have a losing session unless you get massively coolered.

Last week I was playing Wynn 10/25 when some rich Chinese dude sat at our table. He was the first person I'd ever actually seen using one of those ridiculous Vertu phones. He sat down and tried to buy in for $40k (max buy-in is $3k). I made a side-bet with a guy on the rail that he'd go all-in within 3 hands.

Sure enough, he straddled his first hand and when a guy in MP made a raise he Vertu-phone-dude insta-shoved. MP had AA and Vertu had Q9 off. The awesome thing was Vertu flopped a straight, but AA runner-runnered a full house. Would have been awesome if Vertu won the hand.

These dudes used to be 2 to a table when Wynn first opened up. Wish we could see more of that because even if you can't get a piece of the action it's a lot of fun to watch.

Yeah, I have decided to play 10/25 istead of 25/50 next time I am there. 25/50 is full of grinders and douchebags. 10/25 is much better with losers and douchebags.

Weekend TR:

Arrived Fri night for a house party bbq at a friend's place, we went to Cubic (apparently hottest club in Macao currently) and partied til like 5. They have these Russian (?) models who parade out your champagne bottle (Dragon-I style with the firecracker sparkler) and come to your table and make a big scene. Got a bit redundant after the 5th time.

Woke up late on Sat and after a long lunch with some friends, I left them to head to play some poker. I showed up at the Wynn around 4pm and had to wait about an hour to get on 1 of 3 10/25 tables (waiting list was like 7 when I got there).

2 obvious fish at my table, 1 monster stack (guy had to have like +35k..ridiculous as the rest of the table combined wasn't even close to this guy...he had it all when I sat down so not sure how he won it) 2 to my left, 1 shorty who was only shoving pre-flop immediately on my left. Not the best table position but not much you can do when there's a waiting list.

The fish just couldn't fold any pair and reloaded like 4x in the 3hrs I played. The monster stack was quite competent and we rarely played against each other except for one hand where I raised AK and he called with KJ and flop came KJx. I cbet, he raises slightly and I call. Turn is a 5 and I check to him and he bets out, I ask him if he's really that strong and he asks me what I have..I kid "AA" as I call. River is a 5 and we check it down and I ask him why he didn't value bet the river and he says he believed me when I said I had Aces. LOL. I think I lost the minimum that hand.

I sat in with 2k and cashed out 8.8k. No special hands other than my initial double up where I raised ATcc in mp and got 3 callers. QTx with 2 clubs, I cbet and get raised by one of the blinds. I tank shove and hit my nut flush on river and don't get to see his cards.

While on waiting list, I watched a bit of 100/200 and this one Caucasian girl seemed to rake huge pots each time I watched. Seriously, I was moving from table to table and 4 times I'd watch her and she raked in huge pots. One hand she straddles UTG. Button raises and she 3bets. flop is Kxx, she bets and the button shoves AA only to see her table KK. Obviously I was her lucky charm, she should have given me her suite #

Didn't play as much as I wanted to as we had reservations as some local chinese restaurant famous for their shark's fin and other dishes. Left just before 9 for dinner. Afterwards, met some friends who were dining elsewhere and then went to a new karaoke called Wind for a friend's bday.

Brag: won 3 buyins in a short session
Beat: Missed the 2:30am ferry and had to wait til 4am
Beat: Sitting in luxury section of ferry, one guy was snoring so loudly the entire section was staring or laughing. Some guy even threw a magazine at the guy who was startled obviously but fell asleep again only to start snoring again.

Margaud, important question: was the Caucasian 100/200 girl hot?

Brunette, not smoking hot, really cool, serious demeanor at the table.

I'd hit it

Depending on the game you want to play, it veries. If you want to play 10-25 or 25/50 come in the late afternoon/early evening...approximately 4-5 or so. If you're looking to play 100-200, you can get in a game pretty fast until 9-10, then there could be a longer wait.


Still 18.

She's about 5'7", hair down to her mid-back. Looks to have large (real) hooters and an OK ass. Slightly above average face. Doesn't dress very sexy. Dentally, things seemed to be in order. I'm certain she brushes daily. I didn't see her smoking cigarettes which is pretty gross for chicks to do. I'm assuming she's American, she seems pretty typical decent looking American chick. Good looking but stands out mainly because it's Macau (Vegas 2 = Macau 109838).

Overall, I'd give her a 7/10. I won't go into detail on her shortcomings because maybe she (or her boyfriend) reads the forum and would get offended.

I think girls who are good at poker are pretty hot! Dear hot girl: If you read this, PM me, I am a pretty cool guy, doesn't afraid of anything

Now I'll make sure she reads it!

SO whoes better looking? the Wynn player or the girl who won the Red Dragon?

So easy: Ms Red Dragon
Celina Lin

How do the games compare to vegas at comparable stakes?

Excellent topic. Just read through the entire thing. Interesting to see how much the place has evolved over the years.


Anyway, Im heading out to Hong Kong in a few months, and am going to Macau for 1/2 days. Ive never been in a casino before, so I imagine its going to be quite intimidating. Can someone give a detailed guide on where in the Lisboa and Wynn the poker tables are, ie, directions, what floor, etc. Theres been tales in this thread of clueless staff not guiding people in the right direction, so I think it might be usefull for someone here to write the details. Cheers.

Wynn staffs are more professional. You can just follow the signs or ask the staffs. The poker room at Grand Lisboa is on the top floor.

No affiliation, just passing this on as I got an sms from my buddy...

New Poker room opening in Macao this Sunday Aug 2 at 9:30pm.

Lan Kwai Fong Hotel right next to the Waldo.

Celebs will be there for opening, Jet Li and Jacky Chan.

Got this too. This could mean there will be less Macau grinders at the Wynn/Lisboa tables during this period.

I got this invitation also. Wonder how they got my email address. I'm thinking it's from HKPH as they have my info. Unfortunately, I won't be in Macau. Would've been interesting to see how the hype plus "New" room would be. Hopefully more rooms = more players. The game growing in Asia would be sweet, I'd move there for a couple months of the year if that were the case.

First, make sure you're in Macau. Pro Tip: if you're in Hong Kong, you'll need to get a ferry.
Then get in a taxi. Tell the taxi driver "Grand Lisboa". >90% will know immediately. If you are not understood, just repeat "Lisboa" about 5 times and they'll get it. Or you can try using chinese "Sun Poor King", if they don't get your chinese just say it louder and louder (it's how the locals do it).

You should get dropped off at the Grand Lisboa - it's the huge building that looks like this:

From here, go inside and go in the main casino entrance. You'll see two escalators. Take the right hand side. As you are riding up, marvel at the 580000 Swarovski crystals hanging from the ceiling (these things are everywhere in Grand Lisboa - you should see the cleaning crew getting to them) or stop for a look at Stanley Ho's 218 carat diamond.

Ride up three flights of escalators. The first floor is main casino floor 100+ baccarat tables, some roulette and blackjack. If you want to see some degen gambling action, this is where to take a walk. The second floor has a chinese noodle restaurant (good for a quick meal) and a deli-style 'Crystal Lounge' which apparently has very good sandwiches (I haven't tried it myself). Third floor is what you're looking for so go up one more flight.

As you come to the top of the third escalator, the poker room is directly in front of you. It should be pretty obvious as you get off the escalator. Tournament tables are straight ahead, with the Pokerstars counter right in front of you. On the left hand side is the poker room cage, where you can change Hong Kong Dollars into chips (none of that Macau money thanks, we only run with HKD here). No chip runners, so if you think you'll need a few buy-ins get them now and save some time.

Over on the right hand side are the cash games. Depending what day and time you arrive, you should see between two and twelve tables of poker action. No Limit and Limit provided, although Limit is not as popular so you might be in for quite a wait to get a game together. Stakes range between $HK10/20 ($3000 max buy-in) and 100/200 (no buy-in cap).

Have a chat with the brush or the managers; the poker room staff is pretty conversant in English generally, and can usually help with any questions. There's always someone about who can talk english so don't worry too much. If you see me wandering about (glasses, hair etc), say hi.

The rest of this floor has about another 100 baccarat tables, a blackjack pit, roulette and craps table, a bar and a racing book. Upstairs is a couple of very nice restaurants, in particular The Kitchen which is a lush steak restaurant. A little pricey but they fly in the world's best meat from Australia, Japan and US. I don't know if the Norwegian Salmon comes from Norway but it's pretty tasty and the Aussie Wagyu beef is amazing stuff.

So is Starworld running any games anymore?

Also i would like to know how chip buying works at Grand Lisboa and Wynn? I just buy any amount i want from poker rooms cage, and the go to table and flip the chips on the table?

And how rebuy works? Lets say i buy in for 2000HKD for 10/20 game.. i lose 1000HKD and im left for 1000HKD. Can i just reach my pocket and put another 1000HKD chip on the table, or do i need to inform dealer or someone else?

Sorry if these questions seem stupid, but i havent played that much live poker so i would like to know how things work before joining the games.

A tip for you.
Just go there, make all those mistakes at the table. Next thing you know, those grinders will call you down light thinking you a new fish.

More details...

8 tables from 10/25 up to 10k/20k
5% rake capped at 200
time points for playing which can be used for foot, room and lucky draws