Here's a cross section as of this minute - Sat. March 7 at 11:12 pm.

80 players playing on 8 tables. 16 are not Chinese. Of the 16, approximately 10 are caucasian...either Eurpoean, Australian, or American. The remaining 6 are likely Canadian or Australian with Chinese/Asian background.

This does not take into account the 40+ players currently on the lists.

During the week, I would say that there are fewer foreigners...less than 10%.

No Korean?

well, I didn't take a poll, but there are probably a few inlcuded in the 16.

I agree. Do these things show up in RevPAR or ADR? I think at least in RevPAR right?

Thanks!

I definitely have to go there.

RevPAR is a way better benchmark for measuring what a hotel is making. RevPAR=total revenue/capacity (total available rooms) whereas ADR equals total revenue/rooms sold.

RevPAR is the real measurement, as your ADR could be very high but you still didn't make an money. Lets say the hotel had 1000 rooms and they sold 10 rooms for a total of $5k. Wow, your ADR was $500! Sounds good, but the hotel didn't make any money, the RevPAR was only $5 ($5k/1000) and occupancy was only 1%.

Now if, you sold 70 rooms for a total of $7000, your ADR looks shabby at $100(comparitively) but your RevPAR is up to $7 per room, which means the hotel made more money. Not to mention the ancillary revenue generated by filling the rooms.

Comp rooms would only affect RevPAR if the room could have been sold, thus increasing total revenue. If the hotel was running less than 100% occupancay, a comp room would not affect RevPAR as it is a function of total available rooms, which is fixed.

RevPAR, coupled with occupancy, are the most important figures when looking at the "health" of a hotel.

That was a great explanation. Thanks for the information!

You probably group all the Asian looking guys as Chinese but they can be Korean/Japanese/Taiwanese/Chinese etc.

They look similar and you can't tell the difference until they speak.

I would say on average there are 1-2 Korean, 3 Chinese, 2 Hong Kong or other Asian and the rest foreigners in a FR table.

Just got back from macau.

Went to the Wynn first on Sat right before 7pm and there was already a 32 person waiting list for 10/25. and 16 for the 25/50.

We went to Starworld instead and they had 3 tables going upstairs and 1 downstairs.
The first table I was at was mixed with calling stations and solid players. The table soon got broken up and I ended up at a table full of sharks..... With no hands to play with for 2hrs, I finally decide to move to another table with 2 couples who's just messing around and keep re-buying in for the minimum of 400. So, after 12hrs of playing I end up a just a little bit.

Went back today and got a game going at 2pm. The game turned out to be pretty loose and soft.

Also, the ppl running the room are really great guys, Eugene and Jason.

When you say 25/50 is this US$ or HK$ or what currency is this?

Everything is HK. Divide by 8 (roughly) for US.

Starworld was doing 7.5HK to 1 USD.

I forgot to mention that all the games at Starworld were 10/20 with a 5% rake at 100 max. They tried to get a 20/40 game going, but not enough ppl wanted to.

Also, the rest room is NEXT TO the cashier. Ppl kept running all over the place to find it.

Here's a house rule that you may not know about at Starworld:

A hand is NOT folded until the dealer takes it away from you. You can fold your hand, but retrieve before the dealer takes it away and it's still good.

If it's at showdown, it should be live until it hits the muck. There is no advantage/reason that he shouldn't be able to retrieve his non-mucked cards if he mistakingly misread his or his opponents hand.

The player yelling "He folded, he folded" is trying to win on an imaginary techniquality.

so true and something I've seen gone wrong at every poker room in Macau. Actually, at any point if a player throws his cards and pulls them back before they reach the muck they must remain live.
Not such a big deal with hold'em, but I've seen really experienced players misread Omaha hands.
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lol...that's what happens when you don't get to speak English all day.

Unless another player has acted subsequent to the throw.

The hand went to showdown and the cards did hit the muck. Apparently it was at the edge of the muck (touching at least 1 of the muck cards) and you could still see what 2 cards were his.

The person who ended up losing because of this rule, I didn't hear him once raise his voice. It was mostly all the other players at the table who thought it wasn't right. I don't think it was right either.

Whens the Macau Poker Cup, isnt it soon?

From their website...

I think it is obvious what this means, although it hasn't been announced yet they will be moving to Grand Lisboa.

Check http://www.pokerstarsmacau.com for more details.

Several of the dealers at the Wynn basically confirmed this lol. It is sort of like an open secret but it is impolite to write it here or something, I dunno

Yes it is! Macau Poker Cup runs from March 19-22.

I asked the dealer twice if the cards hit the muck and was informed they had not. The player trying to retrieve them was a very new player and had obviously misread the other players cards so I ruled his hand live.

I said it before, Starworld is shady imo and I wont ever play there again...

ok so the Macau Poker Cup runs from March 19-22 ?
that's the PokerStars sponsored event right?

but i heard that the grand waldo is basically getting ready to close down... so where will this Macau Poker Cup be held? i heard Lisboa but again nothing ever gets confirmed until the last possible second in Macau...


and when is the next tournaments at StarWorld being held?
i heard there will be some soon?

i doubt they can be that tough since that fake johnny chan dude won BOTH tourneys last time?? How is that even possible? I thought he was a big donk????

does wynn have 100/200 games during the weekdays now?

what are games like during weekdays now at the wynn?

the poker stars tournament is moving to grand lisboa? is the poker stars room also moving to grand lisboa?