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01-19-2019 , 08:09 PM
I heard there is a VIP seat for recs on every table. So they don't have to struggle with the waiting list.
As I see some confusion here this is probably not the case or just on higher stakes.

I also heard there are two big professional teams playing on every stake. One Belarus and the other Malaysian (?).

I just wanted to give it a try as there is a lack of regular 5/10+ games in SEA. Pretty swingy action everywhere.

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01-20-2019 , 07:08 AM
Used to have a unique system for actual VIP's over at Galaxy. As for other places it's implemented only on demand for higher limits like 300-600+ in a way where room manager actually calls up people and asks if they gonna create a table for a rec.

No large teams that i see at the moment, can note only few chinese-local regs, few russians, some slovenians,a bit taiwanese that can be described as a group of 4-5+. The rest duos or along those lines. Can be spotted pretty easily and avoided or exploited per situation. I am referring to cash games with the above. For tourneys is different.

People come and go quite a bit in the Macau scene, every other few months some new group appears to breakeven and never be seen again.
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01-21-2019 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nordling89
Used to have a unique system for actual VIP's over at Galaxy. As for other places it's implemented only on demand for higher limits like 300-600+ in a way where room manager actually calls up people and asks if they gonna create a table for a rec.

No large teams that i see at the moment, can note only few chinese-local regs, few russians, some slovenians,a bit taiwanese that can be described as a group of 4-5+. The rest duos or along those lines. Can be spotted pretty easily and avoided or exploited per situation. I am referring to cash games with the above. For tourneys is different.

People come and go quite a bit in the Macau scene, every other few months some new group appears to breakeven and never be seen again.
what about long term rentals? airbnb looks hard to find also? just find in the boarder that belongs to China?
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01-22-2019 , 12:32 AM
long term rentals u either do solo or have connections to flat share. as for living in zhuhai and making daily trips to macau will not be acceptable with foreign passport by immigration pretty quickly.
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01-22-2019 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Nordling89
long term rentals u either do solo or have connections to flat share. as for living in zhuhai and making daily trips to macau will not be acceptable with foreign passport by immigration pretty quickly.
where do i found the longer rental places? been searching alot but cant find anything so far.
one central cant find anything on their website either.
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01-22-2019 , 05:05 AM
property agencies, one central is an apartment complex not a hostel. a bit busy in venetian atm to reply more in detail. tell me what are your plans in terms of grinding live, will be able to give a more elaborate answer
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01-22-2019 , 09:02 PM
Are the cash games in Macau better/more prevalent on the weekend? Re: waiting lists, are they operated fairly or is it just a system to let certain people in to a game and keep others out?

I'm debating going out for a couple of weeks during the summer and visiting other nearby places but the real reason is that I could get a job in Shenzhen/Guangzhou or HK if I wanted and I'm seriously considering it. I currently live in London and obv play live in my spare time (weekends mainly) for extra income, wondering how feasible that would be living in Shenzhen or Guangzhou and grinding in Macau on the weekends?

I'm well aware that poker is illegal on the mainland (and obv aware of PM) but do you think there will be underground options in any of these cities? Not asking for any specific recommendations as this is a year out but would be interested to know if there was a bigger underground scene in one city over another (I can literally go to any major city I choose; Shanghai or Beijing maybe because proximity to Macau probably restricts the need for underground options?).

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01-23-2019 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Good Money
Are the cash games in Macau better/more prevalent on the weekend? Re: waiting lists, are they operated fairly or is it just a system to let certain people in to a game and keep others out?

I'm debating going out for a couple of weeks during the summer and visiting other nearby places but the real reason is that I could get a job in Shenzhen/Guangzhou or HK if I wanted and I'm seriously considering it. I currently live in London and obv play live in my spare time (weekends mainly) for extra income, wondering how feasible that would be living in Shenzhen or Guangzhou and grinding in Macau on the weekends?

I'm well aware that poker is illegal on the mainland (and obv aware of PM) but do you think there will be underground options in any of these cities? Not asking for any specific recommendations as this is a year out but would be interested to know if there was a bigger underground scene in one city over another (I can literally go to any major city I choose; Shanghai or Beijing maybe because proximity to Macau probably restricts the need for underground options?).
Weekends in general a bit better, though significantly harder to get a seat and better to arrive sometime before noon and play for 12hrs straight or so. Waiting lists operated fairly, though there could be some preferences in seat change for certain ppl but rarely happens.

If living in China and grinding only on weekends should have no problems really. If asked by immigration just tell that love to gamble and go sauna or some sh*t.

As for underground games I've played once in some Westernized home game years ago back when you could find such games easily through Wechat groups. How a random person can get into similar games these days I'm not sure.
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01-24-2019 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nordling89
property agencies, one central is an apartment complex not a hostel. a bit busy in venetian atm to reply more in detail. tell me what are your plans in terms of grinding live, will be able to give a more elaborate answer
Looking for at least a 3 month stay in Macau after the WSOP so from aug and forward. will be playing 50/100 from start with plans for 100/200 also.
Monthly rent 1300-2000$ range is possible to find for 1 bed long term?
thanks for good information Nordling
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01-25-2019 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Macau2018
Looking for at least a 3 month stay in Macau after the WSOP so from aug and forward. will be playing 50/100 from start with plans for 100/200 also.
Monthly rent 1300-2000$ range is possible to find for 1 bed long term?
thanks for good information Nordling
for that kinda money you can rent your own pretty decent place actually) Will ask around who got a room these days.
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01-26-2019 , 03:16 AM
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OK then i agree with you as i don't know the new guys since i didn't bother to go to Red Dragon Jeju.

do you think it was sucess or not? I thought there was going to be a HUGE overlay because the GTD was quite high and the event was announce with like 2 weeks notice in the middle of the winter (i mean it's like 0c° right now in Jeju) but things turned out to be ok!

You're talking about demand for 25/50 cash games. I hear you. Back then i played a lot of 25/50 at Wynn and StarWorld. Those games were plagued by nitty old chinese. Games were super boring only 50/100 offered descent action.

Anyway as good old Adam Smith demand needs to meet supply and vice versa. and the problem is that pretty much all casino tried poker and quickly gave up. Grand Lisboa, old Lisboa later for a short lived joint venture with PKC, Galaxy, StarWorld, CoD, Grand Waldo ... pretty much everyone tried poker and gave up except MGM.

I'm not sure how you can package things and convince a casino to allocate some of its table cap to low stakes table of a game that is by itself earning little compared to other table games

Macau is hard for poker thats a reality. Let's hope the new owners manage at least to secure a stable tour in asia like EPT is in Europe. I'd sign up for an APPT in NagaWorld PP, another one in RW Sentosa SG, the return of APPT cebu in addition to APPT Manila, and an APPT in Vietnam (you'll probably agree with me that the poker boom in Vietnam was one of the few good news for Asian players in 2018).

I heard all the ''high stake'' like 5-10usd + game are rig, i would personnaly not play in vietnam.
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01-28-2019 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Macau2018
Looking for at least a 3 month stay in Macau after the WSOP so from aug and forward. will be playing 50/100 from start with plans for 100/200 also.
Monthly rent 1300-2000$ range is possible to find for 1 bed long term?
thanks for good information Nordling
Few rooms available in Taipa currently but will have to msg me in summer to confirm. Perhaps even can live in my room in fish mansion lol. Pretty depressed with my live run at the moment even though still winning. Probably will be grinding weekends occasionally only.

Either card dead or every single hand goes something like this :

Hero UTG 100bb raises 3bb AJcc
MP2 80bb calls 3bb
BTN 140bb calls 3bb

Flop Jd9d5h Pot 11.5bb

Hero checks
MP2 bets 5bb
BTN calls 5bb
Hero calls 5bb

Turn Jd9d5h2h Pot 26.5bb

Hero bets 17bb
MP2 raises 40bb
BTN goes all in

Hero folds, MP2 snap folds, BTN shows QsQd

Got a lot more "gems" just from yesterday session. Yet against each other stacking off with random holdings on cooldown. *facepalm*
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01-28-2019 , 05:50 AM
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I heard all the ''high stake'' like 5-10usd + game are rig, i would personnaly not play in vietnam.
People are too greedy this days, so won't be surprised. Most poker ventures and games are run by not the nicest and most educated people in general. Have played my fair share of rigged private games also with people i could call good poker friends.

There's one particular person who asked me something I would never forget in one of those games: "You think your style can win?" After not being able to stack me with AA on AKKxx board when i had AK. Now he regularly plays in Triton tournaments and other high rollers without much results after selling off some of his father properties he inherited. Karma

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01-28-2019 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nordling89
Weekends in general a bit better, though significantly harder to get a seat and better to arrive sometime before noon and play for 12hrs straight or so. Waiting lists operated fairly, though there could be some preferences in seat change for certain ppl but rarely happens.

If living in China and grinding only on weekends should have no problems really. If asked by immigration just tell that love to gamble and go sauna or some sh*t.

As for underground games I've played once in some Westernized home game years ago back when you could find such games easily through Wechat groups. How a random person can get into similar games these days I'm not sure.
Many thanks for the informative reply
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02-10-2019 , 10:30 AM
Hi everybody!
I would like to ask the members of the forum, in particular those who have been to Macau after the close of Pokerstars LIVE there.
I would very much like to visit Macau in March and take part in the game. I am not a high roller, rather a low-limit or medium player. Can anyone advise where to look for the game?
Are there any daily tournaments in Macau? Or now you can find only cash game?
More interesting tournaments, if the cash is only low limit
PS I apologize for my English, but this is a google translator. I hope you understand me
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02-10-2019 , 11:49 AM
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Hi everybody!
I would like to ask the members of the forum, in particular those who have been to Macau after the close of Pokerstars LIVE there.
I would very much like to visit Macau in March and take part in the game. I am not a high roller, rather a low-limit or medium player. Can anyone advise where to look for the game?
Are there any daily tournaments in Macau? Or now you can find only cash game?
More interesting tournaments, if the cash is only low limit
PS I apologize for my English, but this is a google translator. I hope you understand me
No daily tournaments. Cash 650 USD min buy in. If visiting in March you are a bit lucky though as there're some affordable tournaments you can participate in over at Venetian.

https://www.pokerking-club.com/zh-ha...YIa1ACYk7xkQc8
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02-10-2019 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nordling89
No daily tournaments. Cash 650 USD min buy in. If visiting in March you are a bit lucky though as there're some affordable tournaments you can participate in over at Venetian.

https://www.pokerking-club.com/zh-ha...YIa1ACYk7xkQc8
Thanks for your reply!
I'm sad. Unfortunately I am flying out of Macau on March 13
It is not a cheap game with a minimum buy-in of 650 USD, how do you think where can you find a cheaper game? I read that it is possible to find a game cheaper in Grandlisboa, but I do not understand which game is there = (
Apparently my dream to play one night in Macau is not yet feasible
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02-10-2019 , 01:56 PM
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Thanks for your reply!
I'm sad. Unfortunately I am flying out of Macau on March 13
It is not a cheap game with a minimum buy-in of 650 USD, how do you think where can you find a cheaper game? I read that it is possible to find a game cheaper in Grandlisboa, but I do not understand which game is there = (
Apparently my dream to play one night in Macau is not yet feasible
If you wanna play heads up at the airport can do 1/2 cent)) Grand Lisboa haven't had poker for years. Have a look into other Asian countries like Philippines, Cambodia etc.
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02-10-2019 , 03:15 PM
In short, forget about it. What you are referring to is probably the electronic tables, but they are long gone too along with other rooms. AFAIK there was never a live table below 25/50 (HKD).
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02-10-2019 , 03:18 PM
Yeah what Nordling said. Manila is probably the best fully legal place for small stakes in the region
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02-10-2019 , 03:40 PM
heh. thanks for reply guys!
Choice Taiwan or PH )
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02-10-2019 , 03:50 PM
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In short, forget about it. What you are referring to is probably the electronic tables, but they are long gone too along with other rooms. AFAIK there was never a live table below 25/50 (HKD).
10/25 back in the day was quite juicy with some arab kings dropping 5k bb+. sadly not the case anymore.

Taiwan is not exactly legal same as China. They have more of a tournament scene that can compare to Japan for example. PH is an ok option, I personally hate the country but for someone going on vacation and wanna grind a bit is a viable option.
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02-11-2019 , 05:18 AM
Been reading the last few pages of this thread and man Macau just changes so fast.

I last visited in April 18 and the venetian had 8-10 tables going with 2 tables of 25/50 and a bunch of others with a ****ing HUGE wait time, but the game was so juicy. Just ******ed tourists making the most obvious plays and giving off every Caro tell in the book.
Wynn also had maybe 10ish tables but I was getting a seat really fast on the 25/50 i believe.

does 25/50 still even exist? I've moved up in the stakes and will probably play 100/200 or 50/100 but my friends are not there yet.

Also - last time I came was during the week. For wait times - are weekends worse (more people) or better (more open tables?)
eg: on a Friday/Saturday night in Macau what would the wait time be for a 50/100 or 100/200 table at the Venetian at like 10pm at night?

I'm guessing theres still no Omaha or mixed games HAHA
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02-11-2019 , 07:27 AM
What is the rake for the stakes spread in the casinos here in Macau atm?
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02-11-2019 , 07:45 AM
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What is the rake for the stakes spread in the casinos here in Macau atm?
Venetian 50/100 & 100/200 5% capped at 500

Wynn 50/100 5% capped at 200
100/200 5% capped at 250?

The rest don't play often, so don't remember.
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