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01-15-2009 , 04:26 AM
wow..... that sounds very nasty
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01-15-2009 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BoDiddleyMacau
Man, word travels fast with you guys...I just found out about it! See what happens on my day off!! I'm surprised, because it's really a quiet room compared to alot of rooms in The States.

Looks like two guys started going at it, and someone decided to use the distraction to help himself to other players stacks. No tables were broken, no one else was involved. Security and surveillance handled it well, and everyone's chip stack was reconciled. The 3 involved were taken away by police. Next hand please.
Haha, don't people know that a casino is the last place you want to try to steal money at. you got cameras covering and double covering every square inch!
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01-15-2009 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by EquityTakeOut
Haha, don't people know that a casino is the last place you want to try to steal money at. you got cameras covering and double covering every square inch!
Yeah that's the first thing I said when I was told about it. You'd probably have a better chance stealing the cherry from a fat chick's sunday than stealing in a casino. Oh well - I heard he got deported - Bo confirm?
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01-15-2009 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Squibz
Yeah that's the first thing I said when I was told about it. You'd probably have a better chance stealing the cherry from a fat chick's sunday than stealing in a casino. Oh well - I heard he got deported - Bo confirm?
No idea...wouldn't surprise me though.
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01-15-2009 , 11:23 AM
Outrageous.

Never heard of any fisticuffs at Starworld or the other joints.
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01-15-2009 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BoDiddleyMacau
Man, word travels fast with you guys...I just found out about it! See what happens on my day off!! I'm surprised, because it's really a quiet room compared to alot of rooms in The States.

Looks like two guys started going at it, and someone decided to use the distraction to help himself to other players stacks. No tables were broken, no one else was involved. Security and surveillance handled it well, and everyone's chip stack was reconciled. The 3 involved were taken away by police. Next hand please.
Bo, get the surveillance and youtube it!! let's make some money bro~ lol
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01-15-2009 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Quorthon
Outrageous.

Never heard of any fisticuffs at Starworld or the other joints.
That's cause nobody would wanna mess with a guy like me watching over the room. What what~

Our new learn to play table and cash table on the main casino floor has been attracting some sick fishes. Come check out Starworld this weekend, gonna have some sick cash games especially with the tournament on Saturday. Sick layover tournament, 100k guaranteed, $550 buy-in, sick.
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01-15-2009 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FishD
That's cause nobody would wanna mess with a guy like me watching over the room. What what~

Our new learn to play table and cash table on the main casino floor has been attracting some sick fishes. Come check out Starworld this weekend, gonna have some sick cash games especially with the tournament on Saturday. Sick layover tournament, 100k guaranteed, $550 buy-in, sick.
Will Chinese New Year be filled with sick fishes? I hope so
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01-16-2009 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by peteyy
Is there big difference with player skills between casinos (Grand Waldo, Grand Lisboa, Wynn, Starworld) or can i expect all of those casinos to have plenty of fishes?
WALDO: rarely any action there, unless it's tourney night.

WYNN: has the most action, but is also home to almost all the regular players. if you're looking for fish it takes a bit of luck to get at a good table. depending on the time you might wait a while to get a seat too.

GRAND LISBOA: was dead for a while but picking up again of late. they rarely have anything besides 10/20 but the action can be OK sometimes. depends on the night. a lot of times the players seem to raise nothing and call anything, which sounds like fun but really isn't because you have no freaking clue what they're playing with.

STAR WORLD: definitely has some big fish with deep pockets but beware: you'll take turns fishing with some pretty keen house players.
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01-16-2009 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Squibz
Will Chinese New Year be filled with sick fishes? I hope so
Definitely sick fishes
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01-16-2009 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nsacres
WALDO: rarely any action there, unless it's tourney night.

WYNN: has the most action, but is also home to almost all the regular players. if you're looking for fish it takes a bit of luck to get at a good table. depending on the time you might wait a while to get a seat too.

GRAND LISBOA: was dead for a while but picking up again of late. they rarely have anything besides 10/20 but the action can be OK sometimes. depends on the night. a lot of times the players seem to raise nothing and call anything, which sounds like fun but really isn't because you have no freaking clue what they're playing with.

STAR WORLD: definitely has some big fish with deep pockets but beware: you'll take turns fishing with some pretty keen house players.
I would like to clarify something so that noone gets the wrong idea. I'm sorry but I don't really like the word "house player". Especially since we do not use them. The meaning of a house player is someone who plays with the casino money, which is not true in our case. We use prop players who use their own money and get paid according to the time they put in. So please do not get confused and think that they can buy-in with unlimited cash flow. They play with their own cash and whatever they win or lose, is all on them. Most poker rooms all over the world use prop players, without them it is very hard to keep games going.
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01-16-2009 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FishD
I would like to clarify something so that noone gets the wrong idea. I'm sorry but I don't really like the word "house player". Especially since we do not use them. The meaning of a house player is someone who plays with the casino money, which is not true in our case. We use prop players who use their own money and get paid according to the time they put in. So please do not get confused and think that they can buy-in with unlimited cash flow. They play with their own cash and whatever they win or lose, is all on them. Most poker rooms all over the world use prop players, without them it is very hard to keep games going.
What do the prop players look like compared to the big fishes? It would be helpful if they wore a badge or something saying that they are tough players.
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01-16-2009 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by garcia1000
What do the prop players look like compared to the big fishes? It would be helpful if they wore a badge or something saying that they are tough players.
Or a uniform.
I've been out of Macau for a while but am returning soon.
Do any of the other poker rooms use prop players?
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01-16-2009 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gltda
Or a uniform.
I've been out of Macau for a while but am returning soon.
Do any of the other poker rooms use prop players?
Don't know about Lisboa, but not at Wynn.
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01-16-2009 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by garcia1000
What do the prop players look like compared to the big fishes? It would be helpful if they wore a badge or something saying that they are tough players.
Wouldn't be too worried about prop players. Just because they're props doesn't necessary make them pros or invincible. Not sure why people are so scared of them.
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01-16-2009 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ProfessorPain
wynn has strangely screwed up poker in macau while seemingly increasing the player field to epic proportions...

every night wynn's 8 tables are 14-15 players deep on the waiting list and there are dozens of people hanging around. most players used to live in the west and are super absurd tight passive nits.

i come back 5 hours later and my name has moved 3 places

the thing is, although starwold is close to wynn, wynn cleverly put their poker room on the opposite side, so its a fairly long walk.

poker is like a community game in macau. most of the players are just terrible nits. they dont fire continuation bets but whoever has grinded up their 7 buy-in bankroll is a "pro" so they sit around with their friends on the tables for 14 hours straight drinking free milk tea and discussing "i no get aa long time now" - ah yeah its 20 hands an hour because you tank 4 minutes on a turn 3/4 bet.... also, there are a few Chinese players who are slightly better than the rest and play leader of the pack. they are essentially making money off the other players and sort of keeping them in line. the question i have is how can the wait list be 15 deep and nobody will start another game at starworld when starworld is just as nice of a room with very strong management. i guess nobody wants to miss an observed hand if they walk to wynn and the leader of the pack type players (this is for the bigger games) probably dont want other games going as they realize it will be money lost that they could have been in line to win, not that they are really winning very much as its seriously 20 hands an hour 9 handed and none of them could come close to beating a nl200 game online long term.

i had so many comical experiences playing but the best is the consistent 1/5th to 1/8th size bets when they have the nuts.

when they games go short handed, thats when you can make some money as its more hands and you can just run them over and force them into bad decisions. if the 100/200 ran 6 handed i could beat it for 200 usd an hour i think but 9 handed, man, its not worth breathing in cigerette fumes for.

The Professor has analyed the situation to the T. I cant agree with him more of all his observations. It does get quite smokie at the Wynn. I like GL better cause of higher ceilings. Action was good at Wynn as I won 18k hkd when I was there last. You can truly play power poker there but you still need cards occassionally to back up the play.

PC
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01-16-2009 , 07:58 PM
Been playing at the Wynn for a couple weeks now. Games are much harder compared to a few months ago. Wynn has definitely won the poker share market.

Games are still beatable but need much more time

Hopefully the upcoming MGM room will bring in nice new players. (Question is when will they open?)
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01-16-2009 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by theclock
Been playing at the Wynn for a couple weeks now. Games are much harder compared to a few months ago. Wynn has definitely won the poker share market.

Games are still beatable but need much more time

Hopefully the upcoming MGM room will bring in nice new players. (Question is when will they open?)
Not sure where people are hearing about the MGM opening up a room. Can someone with some real intel like to let us know?
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01-17-2009 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FishD
I would like to clarify something so that noone gets the wrong idea. I'm sorry but I don't really like the word "house player". Especially since we do not use them. The meaning of a house player is someone who plays with the casino money, which is not true in our case. We use prop players who use their own money and get paid according to the time they put in. So please do not get confused and think that they can buy-in with unlimited cash flow. They play with their own cash and whatever they win or lose, is all on them. Most poker rooms all over the world use prop players, without them it is very hard to keep games going.
This is true, I've never been under the impression that you guys are bankrolled.

But unlike the normal players at Wynn or GL, prop players recognize fish when they see them and definitely set their sights. If I'm playing at GL or Wynn and happen to sit with one or two fish, oftentimes the rest of the table doesn't even realize it. But at Starworld, everyone just goes after the fish.
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01-17-2009 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FishD
Not sure where people are hearing about the MGM opening up a room. Can someone with some real intel like to let us know?
You are probably right, they might not open a room. I just heard that from other locals when I was playing.
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01-17-2009 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by paul6168
The Professor has analyed the situation to the T. I cant agree with him more of all his observations. It does get quite smokie at the Wynn. I like GL better cause of higher ceilings. Action was good at Wynn as I won 18k hkd when I was there last. You can truly play power poker there but you still need cards occassionally to back up the play.

PC
Power poker is the only way to play in Macau because Chinese players will go after a draw almost no matter what. If you put someone on a straight or flush draw, just make it really expensive for them because they're going to call 9 times out of 10. That said, you will sometimes lose unlikely hands on the river and one or two bad hands can break your bankroll.
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01-17-2009 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nsacres
Power poker is the only way to play in Macau because Chinese players will go after a draw almost no matter what. If you put someone on a straight or flush draw, just make it really expensive for them because they're going to call 9 times out of 10. That said, you will sometimes lose unlikely hands on the river and one or two bad hands can break your bankroll.
If one or two bad hands can break your bankroll, then you're not rolled properly for the stakes that you play..
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01-17-2009 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FishD
Wouldn't be too worried about prop players. Just because they're props doesn't necessary make them pros or invincible. Not sure why people are so scared of them.
It's sort of like playing on a site where some people have rakeback and you don't I guess. When the rake is as gigantic as it is in Macau, it puts you at a definite disadvantage in my opinion. You wont catch me playing shorthanded with prop players (there probably aren't too many situations where playing shorthanded with a huge rake is a good idea, but prop players who are willing to play super loose despite the rake make it even less of a good idea).
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01-17-2009 , 02:48 PM
How are the games at Wynn lately?

Hows the 100-200 game? Shoul dbe playing in it next week.

Is Starworld running 100-200 games lately?
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01-17-2009 , 04:53 PM
We had a 100/200 game a few times a week now. We're running a very good 100/200 game as we speak.

The tournament today was a huge success! We had over 65 players and reached over the HK $100K Guarantee!! Hope to have another good tournament very soon.
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