There is no poker room in Starworld.

Some mod delete those posts please, it's shilling

Hey I stumbled across this article:http://www.gutshotmagazine.com/poker...-play-options/

It states that City of dreams offers limits as low as 10/20 HKD can anyone confirm that?

Dead link but the lowest games you will find in Macau are 20/50, 25/50. It doesnt make sense for operators to open 10/20. Can't even cover dealer costs at those stakes.

Rolling up the stakes and making a run. I'll buy you dinner in Macau for your quick answer.

Played mid-stakes professionally for four years while in college, quit to teach English for life experience. Been in Taiwan for the last five years, great times but tired of being poor.

I will be flying into Macau from this Friday to Sunday to play 25/50 and 50/100 HKD. I've read the last ten pages of this thread but still not even sure where I should go.

Does Venitian has the most games running? But an allegedly unbeatable rake? I'm pretty confused but any advice on which room I should go to would be greatly appreciated. If I can't buy you a meal in Macau then I'll buy you dinner and show you around if you ever visit Taipei.

Any information would be greatly appreciated,

Matt

The Poker Pro tables used to go that low. But I don't know if they are still there.

never ever seen one used in the 2 years i have been going to COD.

If there is any tournament series running then go to play cash where that is (mainly cod). Last time i was there Galaxy had pretty soft low stakes games, not sure if they still run or if the rake is still capped at 150, otherwise Wynn.

never played last few years without tournament on my suggestion would be
start coati strip
Wynn Palace now has a poker room
so try in this order I think
Wynn Palace
Galaxy
Hard rock
Venetion ( this last cause of the rake )
They are all near eachother

Matt,

came back from Taiwan and Macau.

Play at the Wynn. Rake is capped at 25/50 and 50/100 at about half of what's at the venetian. Venetian is a tad more fishy but not enough to warrant paying 500 hkd on rake. I think the wynn is half that, at 200 or 250.

Honestly if you are rolling up and leaving, i suggest buying a one way ticket to las vegas. you'll have a better odds of survival there.

I'm rolling in from Tue-Sun to play in a bunch of the Poker Cup 26 events and some cash.

Anyone know what the casino exchange rates are at the moment? Trying to decide if I want to change cash here in Singapore here first.

Should I be concerned about walking around outside with a lot of cash?

I booked a low end boutique hotel about a 10 min walk away.

Same goes for leaving cash in the room?

Anything really weird I should be aware about in Macau tourney structure vs US etc? Any weird rules?

Thanks guys

walking around with a lot of cash is safe, you will probably have less on you than most people around you haha. you can deposit cash in the casino very easily, you need to get membership card to play in tournaments anyway.

string betting is not allowed in macau like it is in USA (count out chips behind betting line and always slide all out 1 motion). the mtt's will be a slightly faster stucture and people will play tighter in general.

forgot to add that you should change money at china bank or with poker players (walk up to high stakes table in wynn and ask if anyone wants usd) china bank has pretty low rate.

So is it pretty much a consensus that Macau's dealers are the worst dealers in the world? In terms of skill and attitude? Even after playing here for all this time, I am still surprised daily by just how mean and incompetent the dealers are. It's almost as if they've been trained to be as rude as possible to the guests and to make their experience as terrible as possible. I saw a dealer almost make an obviously new player cry today, she was screaming at the guy as if she were screaming at a disobedient animal. And the floor people are of course as apathetic as usual to all this.

And of course, the skills. They are just terrible as a whole. Constantly making mistakes not because of genuine slip ups, but because they just don't give a crap. The number of times I see dealers mistakenly ship the pot to the wrong guy and then just shrug and act annoyed when corrected is unbelievable. They just genuinely do not give a **** about doing their job to even a minimal standard of competence. These dealers wouldn't last a day in even the worst run poker room in America, yet over here, it's almost as if the guests are here to serve them.

$4 rake at Aria instead of $25 - $64 rake in Macau.

Food vouchers, free rooms, and other comps in Vegas vs absolutely nothing in Macau.

Competent and professional dealers and floors vs the absolute ****show in Macau.

Polite and outgoing American culture vs the stick up everybody's butt culture in Macau and much of Southern China.

Clean air in America vs smog in China.

If only Vegas had bigger games running regularly, it'd be a no brainer choice.

Yeah, if only ...

"Polite and outgoing american culture" lol

I'm not sure why you're laughing, are you implying Americans aren't polite and outgoing? On the shallow end, Americans at the very least politely greet each other, say please and thank yous, and will say sorry or excuse me if they bump into you or something. This is hard to expect from your average Macaunese or Chinese. On a more meaningful level, Americans will help you if you need help even if you don't ask for it. If you have car trouble on the side of the road, it's not at all unusual to have someone stop and ask if you need help. If you stop someone on the road asking for directions they will generally help you and be happy to do so. In Macau, people will actually snap at you for even trying to engage them in any way, much less ask for help.

And Americans are some of the most outgoing people in the world, it's very easy to communicate with them. In Macau, it seems like every other person is on the verge of a shouting match. In the poker rooms, the floor or the dealer some times just REFUSE to explain simple rules to new players. I'm talking about Cantonese speaking players. They just refuse to explain why something is done and instead just shout commands at the guests and get aggravated and annoyed if you ask for clarifications. Like the system of asking you to give your smaller denomination chips as rake at the end of hands, they would rather start screaming $15!!! at the guests who don't understand why they have to give more chips for a pot they won rather than explain why. If this system were adopted in America, most dealers would at the very least politely explain that they want to keep the smaller chips in the rack to avoid extra fills or something.

Two things in Macau which I think lead to the level of service received in poker rooms and casinos in general:

1) Dealers dont care because their jobs are secure (Macau residents only) Demand greater than supply
2) No tips allowed so no incentive to provide better service

I think Jack has a typo in his post and meant to say "Canadians" or "Australians" instead.

Pricks from the countries you mentioned are boring as ****. Not to mention that both of them are culturally influenced by Americans

If by "culturally influenced" you mean that they despise the American way of life, I'd agree. And the prick ratio in both countries is far lower compared to the USA as well.

No way! Look at Jaime Staples!

This is your comeback? That's really weak.

Out of curiosity, have you been to all of these three countries for more than just a few days?

No, I just lost my interests in continuing the exchange of words.

I spent a year as an exchange scholar at Toronto. I am barred from entering Australia for a year due to a **** up by its immigration.

No, I meant Americans compared to Macaunese.

This isn't a dick measuring contest of English speaking nations, nobody said Americans were more or less polite and outgoing than Canadians/Australians. I don't know why you insist on bringing the conversation into that direction.

My message was about the general attitude of natives in Macau and the workers in the casinos. I compared them to Americans because America is the birth place and still the capitol of casino poker.

Have you experienced the dealers during the WSOP? Sure there are many excellent dealers there, but many are also dragged straight from the dealer school or pit games into the less expensive tournaments during the summer and show the same tendency that you described for Macau.