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11-04-2008 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by peteyy
There is Grand Waldo hotel right next to the Spa. Ask them to keep your suitcase for you while you go to that spa.
Thanks for the reply. I'd prefer to be in the mainland peninsula. Stayed in Taipa last time and found it to be very inconvenient. Had a hard time flagging a cab down when I played at GW. Had to walk to the hotel and wait. Getting there is fine, not so much leaving.
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11-05-2008 , 07:12 AM
I found a pretty good deal at the best western Taipa through rates to go, 13th to 16 nov (3 nights) for 1900 hkd, since we're 2 in the room sharing, its not too expensive.
OK, it's on Taipa, but it's not that far from mainland.
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11-05-2008 , 11:16 PM
Wynn poker room supposedly openning today - look forward to checking that out tomorrow night .
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11-06-2008 , 08:47 PM
25/50 and 50/100 games at Starworld have the lowest rake, capped at 150. Lisboa and Wynn have there's capped at 200 for any game higher than 10/20. Starworld also offers a special hotel room rate for players which is $945HKD/wkdays and $1200/wknds. very nice room for that price.

Just checked out the Wynn yesterday and thought everything was good except the dealers were too slow. But then again all the casinos were like that in the beginning. Another bad thing was that it was all the way in the corner of the casino, had to walk a very long time.
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11-06-2008 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PrimogenitoX
Any idea what the cap will be and what the biggest regular or semi regular game will be? Also the 100/200HKD game...this is no limit? If so, what is buyin cap? Thanks in advance!
The 100/200 game is NL and usually only played at Starworld. I've never actually seen it played in other casinos. I can always count on Starworld to have the big games everyday. They usually play 10k min and 50k max buy-in but can be changed upon players request.

Grand Lisboa only goes as high as 25/50 or sometimes 50/100. Grand Waldo just has no games at all. and the Wynn yesterday only had a 25/50 and Starworld had the 100/200 game running.
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11-06-2008 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gltda
Well, I can only talk from my own experience recently. I was the only person in the room who wanted to play 10/20, so the manager Brian (who is a very likable and personable chap btw) called over 5 other ppl - 2 of the hosting staff, danny and Ken(?) who are also staff/management of the room - and another player who was obviously getting some sort of prop action. previously they had just been sitting there waiting for something to happen - not in the way ppl wait for a new game to start.
That made 6 players who obviously had something going with the staff versus myself - solo and no buddies to three-bet my speculation raises. Very hard to win. You try it and see.

I am not intimating that Starworld/Galaxy staff play in the room as that's illegal under Macau law - just the Asian poker facts team. The AsianPoker team must have something worked out with the government (( btw AsianPokerFacts is awfully similar to AsianPokerLogic - is there any connection there?? PM me, I'm very interested due to the extremely-hyper-pro-starworld nature of your comments)).
But the stories I hear from the players who play there lead me to believe that collusion takes place between the props&managers which results in a unfair (-EV) game for a visiting player.



As for the banned player, I can only say what I heard which is: the main manager brian was BBeat on one pot, bluffed on the next, then had 2nd best flush on the third. The player then asked the dealer to hurry up while changing cards -who hasn't? - and was banned when the dealer complained of harassment.


regarding my comments about pokerstars - Last week I played in the 100k guaranteed and the dealer gave me one ace then flipped an ace while dealing the second card, then took it away and replaced it with an offsuit 3. This turned a sure winner - and cash payout- into a positive loser.
The blinds were high and this dealer (definitely experienced as I've played with her over the course of months) made no apology for the mistake, and IMO didn't even realise the gravity of the situation. One hand later, we had to wait about 5 minutes for the pit supervisor to approach to determine that there was no small blind - when everyone except the supervisor knew that in this case, there should be no small blind.
Make no mistake; I enjoy Pokerstars room, but I'd think that having been open for so long, there'd be some improvement in the staff. Unfortunately not true.

Grand Lisboa still has some useless staff. But on a visit by visit basis, I'd still have to rate them highest. At least there's a game 24 hours, mostly 4 or 5 from my experience. A few of the floor managers seem to make up the rules as they go along but the dealers are fastest and don't need a lot of intervention. Also, I still stand by my previous statements that the grand lisboa dealers are the quickest, most attractive and friendly out of every casino. Maybe it's just for handsome foriegners though - ugly locals might have a different opinion. Although there seems to be more male dealers recently; affirmative action maybe?? The biggest problem with grand Lisboa is that they don't seem to have any permanent staff in the room (except for an aussie and a kiwi who are always there) so no consistency is reached. Also no hosting staff, so you have to fetch your own chips can't see why they'd take the chance that you'd leave.

Seriously, I am hoping that Wynn's can put together an excellent room where we can play some good action higher limit tables in a private environment where there are actually players. Unfortunately, i heard through casino grapevine that their initial 3month operating budget has been reduced to 1million patacas ~~ 100k USD. It looks like they might be the lowest entry point of all

But I reamain hopeful.

I don't really care about your negative responses to my comments. Please realise I have run poker rooms in the past and have definitely played more poker than you. currently ""a company I am involved with"" are waiting for mngmnt approval to open Macau's greatest poker room yet, which (if it meets expectations) will be analagous to Bobby's room. I won't be able to play but I might get to manage it.
For a person that whines so much and can't even tell the difference between regular players and actual props, I doubt you have ran a poker room in the past. Would be better to hear you say that you got overplayed by bunch of local fishes, which there are a lot of that would raise every hand. And I doubt the hosts at starworld would ever play poker. I have spoken to all of them and they have no clue of the game, they are only there for appearance and to chip run.

Hope to see what "poker room" your going to help manage. Unless it's MGM, I doubt it's going to be any good. But from what i hear, MGM had plans with Mansion but is changed now and unsure for the future.
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11-06-2008 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by donk3y
For a person that whines so much and can't even tell the difference between regular players and actual props, I doubt you have ran a poker room in the past. Would be better to hear you say that you got overplayed by bunch of local fishes, which there are a lot of that would raise every hand. And I doubt the hosts at starworld would ever play poker. I have spoken to all of them and they have no clue of the game, they are only there for appearance and to chip run.

Hope to see what "poker room" your going to help manage. Unless it's MGM, I doubt it's going to be any good. But from what i hear, MGM had plans with Mansion but is changed now and unsure for the future.
Thank you "Starworld Employee of the Month"
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11-07-2008 , 03:18 AM
Hey anybody out there that can give us an update on the newly opened Wynn poker room that was supposed to open yesterday? Saw the previous post about the dealers being slow, etc. but would like more information. Where in the casino is it located? In the old part or the new part? What are they spreading and what is the rake? How many people are playing and how many tables....you know, the usual stuff
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11-08-2008 , 08:12 PM
Is it possible to get a Visa to stay in Macau for greater than 30 days? I know you can go to HK and then return the same day but I was told they only allow you an additional 20 days with this method. What if you want to stay in Macau for 6 months+ and not get a job?
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11-09-2008 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by allurit
Is it possible to get a Visa to stay in Macau for greater than 30 days? I know you can go to HK and then return the same day but I was told they only allow you an additional 20 days with this method. What if you want to stay in Macau for 6 months+ and not get a job?
No way that I know of. The trip to Hong Kong and return should give you another 30 days. This is the first time that I have heard that it is only good for an additional 20 days. Also, you may want to think about getting a China visa and hopping over to China, it is only 30 minutes to the border and about an hour to clear customs. This is also an alternative to going to Hong Kong.
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11-10-2008 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by allurit
Is it possible to get a Visa to stay in Macau for greater than 30 days? I know you can go to HK and then return the same day but I was told they only allow you an additional 20 days with this method. What if you want to stay in Macau for 6 months+ and not get a job?
The Customs guys are a little unpredictable, but normally you should only get 20 days when you return to Macau without going home first. If you are lucky and get 30 days a second time, chances are you will only get 10 days if you try to do it again.
It is possible to apply for an extension through the Immigration office but you will need a good reason.
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11-12-2008 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Quorthon
The Customs guys are a little unpredictable, but normally you should only get 20 days when you return to Macau without going home first. If you are lucky and get 30 days a second time, chances are you will only get 10 days if you try to do it again.
It is possible to apply for an extension through the Immigration office but you will need a good reason.
Just a quick update, if you hold a EU passport you get 6 months.
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11-12-2008 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Quorthon
Just a quick update, if you hold a EU passport you get 6 months.
I have a French passport, and last time I went there (june) from china (entered at the Zhuhai border), I got 3 months.
I'll be entering macau tomorrow again, I'll come back to tell you how long I get this time.
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11-13-2008 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jude9x9
I have a French passport, and last time I went there (june) from china (entered at the Zhuhai border), I got 3 months.
I'll be entering macau tomorrow again, I'll come back to tell you how long I get this time.
I'm interested to know too (and I'm French)
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11-14-2008 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Harri59
I'm interested to know too (and I'm French)
i was there 3 weeks ago and got 90 days to .
Came from china , im from norway.
Il be going back in 3 weeks time , cant wait
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11-14-2008 , 04:38 AM
Currently in Macau atm, will be playing at Grand Lisboa tonight. Anyone going to hit the tables tonight?
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11-14-2008 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by donk3y
I have to agree with asianpokerfacts. GLTDA is out of line by saying such bs about Starworld. I'm a regular there and know the staff very well. There are only 2 props there and the managers sometimes sit down and play to help the game when it's 4 or 5 handed at the player's request.

And yes a player did get banned but was due to threatening the dealer. Never were they banned for winning the staff's money. That's just ridiculous. I've been to all of the poker rooms in Macau and find that Starworld has the friendliest staff and also service. They also have bigger games than others so I like it there more. Also their 25/50 and 50/100 games are only 150HKD max rake. All the other poker rooms rake 200 max for the same games.

I hope nobody takes GLTDA seriously, go to Starworld yourself and experience it. Grand Lisboa is not bad either, but usually only have small 10/20 games. I am looking forward to seeing how the Wynn room is going to be.

While I'm (generally) happy with Starworld, I wouldn't be so quick to write off collusion, as I've seen it happen there. Luckily in both cases the players weren't all that great so I didn't say anything, but there were instances of players who were obviously friends sitting beside each other and exposing cards to one another (holding the cards sideways and about 5 inches from the table, angled toward buddy X while buddy X was still in the hand). I recall someone said something about it and although the dealer made a comment, nothing was really done, and the buddies continued to sit beside each other and expose hole cards to each other. Another questionable hand involved these two guys making a 3-bet / 4-bet on someone's raise (into a pretty big pot), and then checking down after the other guy folded; one guy showed bottom pair, the other showed ace high.

Managers at Starworld most definitely *do* play, and if that's illegal by Macau law, they should (and most definitely do) know better. Also LOL @ "there's only two prop players at Starworld".

For the most part though I'm optimistic about Starworld and poker in Macau in general, it's going though some growing pains right now, which is to be expected.
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11-14-2008 , 09:27 PM
I was in Macau earlier this year and there was no poker going on at all. Thank god that its happening albeit the rake seems rather steep in any currency compared to the max $6 rake in CA and Vegas.

I will chk out the Lisboa regardless though and see what happens. Where is the best action now as some time has passed? Staying in a sauna at old Lisboa is not a bad chioce really. Nice place to sleep, **** , and shower for $188 and a nice hot oil massage for total of $388.00. Throw in 600 patacas and get it all.

PC out
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11-14-2008 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Squibz
Managers at Starworld most definitely *do* play, and if that's illegal by Macau law, they should (and most definitely do) know better. Also LOL @ "there's only two prop players at Starworld".
I think you'll find that those Managers are employed by the APT, not StarWorld.
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11-15-2008 , 07:49 AM
Any one played the SnG at Grand Waldo before?? is the game soft?
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11-16-2008 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TimTamAddict
Any one played the SnG at Grand Waldo before?? is the game soft?
Like almost any live SnG on the planet, yes, it's soft.
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11-17-2008 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Harri59
I'm interested to know too (and I'm French)
I got 3 months.
For those who don't know the macau-China border is closed from midnight to 7AM. We got at the border at 1AM and had to get drunk in Zhuhai all night before entering Macau.

Good weekend pokerwise though, I made 8600 playing 10/20 at the Grand Lisboa.

Play was pretty weak except for the occasional better than average northern european. There was always at least one table going on, even in the wee hours of the early morning, and sometimes up to 6 tables with one or 2 tables of 25/50, did not see more.
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11-17-2008 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jsplit
Currently in Macau atm, will be playing at Grand Lisboa tonight. Anyone going to hit the tables tonight?
I guess we played together, which one were you? I'm Simon, one of the French guys. Played from 2PM to 8AM on Friday night, 2PM to 7PM on Sat and 2AM to noon on Sun.
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11-18-2008 , 07:28 PM
Well, I finally experienced poker in Macau. It was a lovely time indeed. 1st night at the Grand Lisboa to get my feet wet at 10-20 NLH and walked plus 6900HKD. Play was soft and frankly players were kinda inexperienced there.

2nd morning went to the Wynn since no action at Lisboa or Starwood and produced a 16k HKD win as players were also pretty much bad. Downside is the smoking at the Wynn was atrociously bad.

Needless to say that I will be going back asap maybe in Feb of next year.
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