Yeh, had the choice of 3 tables that night and chose the wrong one! I was at the table right next to it once again - not that that means diddly squat. Guy who won was indeed an unknown who was on the flight home the next day or something.

Any road... 'twas 66 Vs JK on a 6J6JJ board and the payout was £82k. Jackpot pool was still displayed as £10k tonight.

Hey guys,

i am going to Play the 888 Live Event in London this Weekend and i couldn`t find any Information whether they offer CG tables at the Casino. Anybody more clever than me? Wanted to play maybe Saturday evening.

call them. also you should call in an hour or so before you head to the casino to get on waiting lists.

Yes, they will....

Hey everyone, I'm going to be in London for a long weekend at the beginning of May 5-8or9 and want know where I can find some Low to Mid stakes PLO.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

You will find some PLO games running at the Vic and occasionally at the Empire.

PLO is very popular at the Vic. They have several games running most days
£1-2 ,2-5 and as big as 10-25 running on a regular basis.

It has been confirmed: when it comes to live poker Aspers is indeed THE ARMPIT OF THE WORLD.

I'm playing 1/2 and I'm on the button looking at 99 and I raise pre. I get the call from the small blind and we're heads up. The flop comes 9 10 2 and I make a small raise after villain bets. He calls. The turn is another 10 and the villan tanks. While he's tanking, without saying a word, I tilt my head to get a look at how much he is playing as he's covered his chips with his hand.

I look straight ahead again (he's on my immediate left) and there is a short pause. I hear him say "115" loud and clear as does the rest of the table. I instantly put my stack over the line which has him well covered. Villain then tells dealer something like he was telling me how much he had and the dealer believes him and says action is still on him. I call for a ruling as it's obvious I've made it clear I have a good hand.

The dealer explains the situation and now the villain claims "I said I have 115!" which was NOT what he said. Floor rules in villain's favour. Action resumes; he checks I go all-in he folds QQ face up.

So there it is: you can now go to Aspers, announce a number OOP, see the reaction your opponent makes and if he puts you all in and you have a dodgy hand all you have to do is say that you were telling your opponent how much you had. There's even the added bonus that he'll fold the best hand!! And there's me thinking that if it's on you and you say a number - that is the amount you intend to bet.

- The strange thing is - I was the one made to feel like I was angle shooting.

I don't think I want to play in that sh 1t-hole ever again.

I wasn't there and I don't know you (so don't take this like I could be attacking your character), but I can imagine a series of events in which that is the correct ruling.

Did he have 115?

I am from london and keep hearing horrible things about this place. Never played there and never will. However, wherever I play I am especially cautios with these kinds of things and try to be very robotic about how I go about things whilst Im in a hand. If the guy says 115, no need to snap shove ur chips in. Take a second, look at the dealer, make sure his chips are in the pot, then go for it. Im not saying the guy was right, you obviously got angle shoot, but you also made it too easy for him to angle shoot you.

Do they have audio at Aspers ?

I tried to be as clear as possible and leave nothing out with my explanation. The floor went on about "fair play and the good spirit of the game" and all that but unless you want to share those "series of events" of which you speak, this comment doesn't really help.


Yes, yes he did. Perhaps a little bit more.


In retrospect, perhaps I should have had clarification but snap shoving with the second nuts on that board after you hear a number announced from your opponent would/should be the automatic response of anyone in that spot who doesn't want to slow-roll their oppponent.


I think they do but there was no question that he said "115" with zero table-talk beforehand.


Whichever way you cut it I'm done with that dreary pit of a poker room designed only to squeeze as much money from players as possible. In fact, I p1ss on it from a great height.

Well, I think the only thing that needs to change for this to not particularly obvious is the way in which he says "115", which is really difficult to judge.

Imagine you're the dealer, and you see that player A is really clearly trying to see how much player B has, and player B says a number (which coincidentally is the size of his stack), it's not unreasonable to think that he is trying to help B out by giving his stack size. I'm not saying that player B couldn't have made it more obvious or that he definitely isn't angle shooting, but from a third perspective, it really isn't obvious that you're not angle shooting either. I understand that the way that things happened seem obvious to you, but you've got a third party (the dealer), who has to relay the message to a fourth party (the floor), and if you gave me all of the above information, I may well rule similarly.

It's worth noting that, as day'n'night suggests, you're partly to blame by not waiting for clarification of the bet. We get ourselves so worked up about slowrolling, but nobody in the world is going to care that you've taken a few seconds to ascertain whether it was a bet or not. Whether this was an honest mistake or an angle, you protect yourself by clarifying with the dealer.

Good point, well made. It's just the fact that there was a reasonable enough time-lapse between me looking at his stack and his announcement that made me assume he was making a bet rather than telling us how much he had. But you're right; the lesson from this is to definitely get clarification if unsure.

I'm still not going anywhere near Aspers any time soon.

I think this is a reasonable position.

Has it's good and bad points like all places. But, def at the bottom of my list of places to play.

Hmmm, gonna be in London after May 20 for about 6 nights. I only played at a poker club called The International which I believe is now gone. I'm going to stay at a hotel in Kensington and The Vic seemed to be the best combination of proximity and friendliness (found enough horror stories about The Hippo and Empire, especially "racist and rude" doormen). But now I see that the Vic may not be the best/only choice after all?

To be clear I'm looking for 1-1 and 1-2 only, nothing higher. Might also play some tournies. I guess I'm asking about the best combination of atmosphere, friendliness, safety (in terms of getting back to the hotel at 3am) and fish. So which is it gonna be?

Thanks in advance!

London hotels are very expensive and so is renting, can anyone give a summary of nearby towns/very outer suburbs that are close enough to travel into London for 3-4 sessions a week, and pleasant enough to stay in? Towns with good character, good summer vibe etc. Direct train/bus into Central London would be a plus.

Thanks

The Vic is going to be your closest option. London is like all major cities, not the safest place to be walking around in the early hours but, you should be fine anywhere with a bit of common sense.

Could anyone give me any information about being a prop in London (if they exist)? Or stories/myths/tales about being one. Thanks twoplustwo nerds.

Thanks for the info on PLO games. It looks like the Vic is my best/only option.

Now for a follow up. I have no way to take out much money while in London so I'm going to bring EUR and/or USD, where can I exchange it and get F'ed the least?

Thomas Exchange is your best bet

The cashier at the Vic is the best for exchange. They hold your currency as well, so if you want to change back you can.

Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for.

I'll look into the cashier as well but in my experience a casino is going to give a poor rate and high commission .