Ahhh OK, that would make sense actually. Also slots players are usually pretty degen so they'll find the machines no what far flung corner of the Casino they're in.

Haven't done the maths myself but sounds like a bit of an underestimate. Very true though about how difficult it makes it for the Recs to spew money back to the Casino floor after leaving the Poker room.

Empire poker room is still living off the bbj money that went missing years ago imo.

id say each table makes around £100 a hour

Getting pretty specific here, but here's a question for anyone here who lives sort of Zone 4-5ish and Friday/Saturday nights i.e has a full time job and plays semi-recreationally. If you end up playing in central, say Hippo/Empire, do you normally end up playing through the night and waiting for first Train/Tube, or just grab an Uber/Cab whenever your tired? If so, how much you looking at paying?

Considering moving out a bit, currently just outside Zone 1, and my drunken weekend grinds are definitely playing a part in my decision haha

if the patent carries beyond the usa then this is exactly right. the company charges per shuffle and has it set a very specific rate... however they definitely have it set so that the casino makes more money by getting out more hands. this is true even for low stakes blackjack. this is why most rooms (in the usa) use the shufflers in raked cash games, but not in tournaments. these machines are better for everyone (shuffler maker, casino, players) imo.

https://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cm...ht-tube-lb.jpg

24h tube map on Fridays and Saturdays from 12th Sep.

Both dealers and players have been saying that The Empire will soon get a revamp for the last five years!!

Some of the older female dealers at The Empire are painfully slow and have probably cost the casino thousands over the years. I think a few have moved on though.

You don't get "tough" or "soft" venues; only "tough" or "soft" tables. Table selection is key. As to the Spanish players, there's clearly a small contingent of regular Spanish players who buy-in for the max and play solid BUT there are also a small selection (usually those who buy-in for less) who are not as good. The Empire and Hippo have games running all the time (except Christmas) not just from midday - it's just that it starts to get busier from that time.

I meet the criteria above and play on a Friday and Saturday night while hopping around between three venues (Hippo/Empire/Vic). Here's my routine:

1) Start to play from around 9 or 10PM.
2) Stay on table if it's good or...
3) Change table when/if the table dynamic is bad or if image is shot.
4) Stay on table if it's good or...
5) Change venue.
6) Rinse and repeat number 2 to 4 (add 5 if it's still early).
7) Go home when tired.

So, yeh, just go home when tired. You should never let trains/tubes/buses/ work commitments dictate when you should leave a poker table anyway, especially on a Friday and Saturday night - and especially if the clueless drunk/fish is still hanging around.

As to the cost: ~£1.50.

I played for about 250 months last year in London and managed to make a OK hourly rate. Spunked it all away travelling now. Going to return soon and give it a shot for a longer period.

Wondering if there are any study groups in London or regular sweat sessions, or alternately, is anybody up for starting a sweat session/study group?

Sorry, I meant 250 hours! ha

Never heard about this what happened?

Liveaments skype group?

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I think it was the first ever BBJ at The Empire in 2010.

After all the sums had been added up (Payouts, daily promotions, admin fee and seed money for the next bbj) it turns out that £85000 was missing that the Empire just withheld for no reason. There has never been any official statement from The Empire as to where that money went as far as I know.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...33/index3.html

http://www.thehendonmob.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38025

Thanks for that!

Any news on the Vic loyalty bonus rake tournament? Is it that you still only have to play 1 hand a day or have they changed this? and how many points in the month would you say you need to get to be in the top 100 also the next one is 5 weeks long so this will need more points and can i play any stake from 1-1<

^in a 5 week month you'll need about 100 to guarantee a place, in a 4 week month about 85.

I went for it one month and just played one orbit a number of times (although it felt a bit dirty to be honest).

Any stakes count - the tournament is full of 1/1 and 1/2 donks & nits

I see that only 150 people enter and 30 get paid what's min cash like I saw that 1st was like 18k couldn't see any other prizes

Yeah, top 100 get into the tourney for free, and then the next 50 have an option to buy in for £150.

I think min pay out is usually about £450

How easy is this tournament compared to super stack?

^not played superstack but the freeroll is a mixed bag of recs - donks and fish from the lower stake games, plus the good players from those games, and the tough ones from the higher stakes

Apart from the Vic and sometimes Aspers, does anyone know where they have 2/5 games in London? I know Hippo and empire have deepstack 1/2, but want to take shots at 2/5.

Also what are the players like at 2/5 (at the vic and other casinos)?

Cheers

Hi guys, quick question about the Vic.

Is it possible to buy chips with euros at the cashier?

^Yes. They'll give you a bad rate, but if you win/break even/show up with £ you can buy them back at the same price.

Hippo occasionally has a £2/£5 game running, I wouldn't count on it though on a random day. Empire has £1/£3 deepstack regularly too.

Its mainly the Vic that has regular games going.

Think Aspers has 1/3 Deep as well from what I recall? Not 100% certain though.

If you wanted to skip 2/5, you could always go jump into Palm Beach 5/10 games

How often does 5/10 run at Palm Beach and are there any higher games that run often there?

Aspers got rid of all the deeps tack games a few months ago. Used to have 1.2 deepstack

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