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09-17-2013 , 02:54 PM
Only way this matters to the poker room is if the bridge connects to the 3rd floor where the room is. That would be nice and annoying at the same time.
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09-19-2013 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cap217
Only way this matters to the poker room is if the bridge connects to the 3rd floor where the room is. That would be nice and annoying at the same time.
It looks like it will connect on the 2nd floor. I'm not sure where they'll ultimately drop people off at, but it sort of seems like it would be by the food court, not too far from the poker escalator. I'm sure they'll be redoing floor plans slightly to accommodate the new entrance. Not sure if it will have any major effect on poker, coming in on the 2nd floor instead of the 1st.

The bridge in general should help out the casino's overall traffic though. Rising tide should raise the poker boat a bit.
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09-19-2013 , 08:21 PM
Enough with the bridge to the casino who cares. More importantly I hear a 1/2 round by round game has been running. Anyone know how often it goes?
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09-20-2013 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ClevelandMike
Enough with the bridge to the casino who cares. More importantly I hear a 1/2 round by round game has been running. Anyone know how often it goes?
We played sunday and it was super good. It ran a few days later but wasnt good. Buy in is 100-400 which is nice and i thought the nl round was looser than plo.

I did suggest to the floor that we run a 1/3 eound by round 200-500 and maybe it would combine action and be good.
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09-21-2013 , 10:44 AM
To add to the complaints about this room, I have never seen floors so unwilling to reduce the rake shorthanded. We were playing four handed but they refused to reduce the rake because three other seats "had stacks in front of them," which they considered seven handed. I guess that's what happens when there is no competition.

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09-21-2013 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zaah1
To add to the complaints about this room, I have never seen floors so unwilling to reduce the rake shorthanded. We were playing four handed but they refused to reduce the rake because three other seats "had stacks in front of them," which they considered seven handed. I guess that's what happens when there is no competition.

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Meh I get where they are coming from with that. If that happens they should be paging people to return or picking up stacks.

Every time I've played there short they always drop the rake. Usually 4 people at the table they do $2 plus $1
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09-21-2013 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gtpitch
Meh I get where they are coming from with that. If that happens they should be paging people to return or picking up stacks.

Every time I've played there short they always drop the rake. Usually 4 people at the table they do $2 plus $1
Yeah, well there was no list at the time. Two of the players sitting out just didn't want to play shorthanded, though I'm not sure a rake reduction would have changed that. It's also hard for me to get excited about their standard rake reduction from 6+1 to 4+1 when it gets to six-handed, but I suppose Ive been spoiled playing in other states where 4+1 is standard (and casino taxes are lower).
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09-21-2013 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cap217
We played sunday and it was super good. It ran a few days later but wasnt good. Buy in is 100-400 which is nice and i thought the nl round was looser than plo.

I did suggest to the floor that we run a 1/3 eound by round 200-500 and maybe it would combine action and be good.
Round by round tends not to work because alot of the action players prefer playing straight PLO so they either won't play or walk around during the hold'em rounds.

But if people want to play it they should spread the game. Just don't think it will be real popular.

As for making it 1/3 i don't think they are approved for it right now but they could change it in time most likely.

I generally don't play PLO but most of the people who play 2/5 PLO won't play round by round just because the PLO is more action.
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09-21-2013 , 10:18 PM
I personally hate that the round by round seems to be killing the straight PLO game...
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09-22-2013 , 08:55 AM
I would think the round by round would get more of the nl players who didn't want to deal with the variance of straight plo but give them some exposure to the Omaha action.
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09-22-2013 , 01:45 PM
I dont have an opinion about the game and what it does to the plo game yet. I hope that rbr gets some new players introduced to plo. And i hope in the long run its good for plo. In the short term it may hurt the plo action but only time will tell.
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09-24-2013 , 11:58 PM
First Sat. in Oct. starts a new round by round $100 tournament with rebuys. I think they said it will run every wk. at 11a.m. Wonder how much interest
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09-25-2013 , 05:13 PM
new aces cracked promo also starts Sunday and runs only on Sundays. I believe they're paying $100
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10-12-2013 , 10:14 PM
Just found out that they no longer allow 7star companions to jump ahead of regular players in lines. Triv apparently complained about not being able to get in a 2/5 PLO game as there were so many companions jumping him in line.

I think that's fair. People buy companion cards just to cut in line for the games and that seems wrong.
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10-13-2013 , 10:37 AM
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Just found out that they no longer allow 7star companions to jump ahead of regular players in lines. Triv apparently complained about not being able to get in a 2/5 PLO game as there were so many companions jumping him in line.

I think that's fair. People buy companion cards just to cut in line for the games and that seems wrong.
7 stars dont usually play poker so for harrahs to allow this made sense. But in cleveland we have a high number of seven star players who also play poker. Then they give their companion card to their friends and it makes it hard to get into games. Even at 1/2 plo, if the 2/5 isnt running it gets congested with a few 7s.

I thought it was harrahs policy though.



And the bad beat hit the other day. It was a guy who never played poker in a casino before. 10 min into his first session ever. Crazy.
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10-14-2013 , 12:03 AM
So is it just me that is pissed that the shoe has almost 600k in the promotional fund and the bad beat has given over 300k to out of town players in bad beat jackpots and the current bad beats of only 20 & 13k? We just continue to give them that extra dollar evry hand.....

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10-14-2013 , 07:13 AM
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So is it just me that is pissed that the shoe has almost 600k in the promotional fund and the bad beat has given over 300k to out of town players in bad beat jackpots and the current bad beats of only 20 & 13k? We just continue to give them that extra dollar evry hand.....
No its not just you the promotions are so terrible its really a joke you go to other casino and they have way better giveaways for the players and not just high hands for $200 and silly splash pots they should visit a casino in florida
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10-14-2013 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Raidion
Just found out that they no longer allow 7star companions to jump ahead of regular players in lines. Triv apparently complained about not being able to get in a 2/5 PLO game as there were so many companions jumping him in line.

I think that's fair. People buy companion cards just to cut in line for the games and that seems wrong.
I dont see how thats going to keep working its in Harrahs policy ...how can a sub property just make up which rules they will follow its suppose to be universal for all properties it clearly states "Seven Stars Companion Card entitles its bearer to all Seven Stars priority service benefits"
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10-14-2013 , 06:08 PM
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No its not just you the promotions are so terrible its really a joke you go to other casino and they have way better giveaways for the players and not just high hands for $200 and silly splash pots they should visit a casino in florida
What bugs me about the whole bad beat jackpot is they do not promote it. I would rather not have one at all, but if I have to pay a buck every time I scoop a pot at least publicize the darn thing to bring in new players. It didn't hit in almost 6 months which is rare and it should have been huge if they continued to put money into it on a regular basis like they did at first. I am guessing 350K to 450K??? This should be put on billboards and heavily advertised. People flip out over a free toaster so a chance at life changing money would be a huge draw. Non poker players will come to play and most grinders would much rather get that kind of action vs high hand or aces cracked promotions.
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10-15-2013 , 11:46 AM
With the reserve being so big, I would imagine that the jackpot is back up to ~200k right away. I'll mention the idea of advertising to Karen because I feel like that really should bring in rec players.

This room will need some help soon because when the Hard Rock opens up at the end of the year they are going to lose recreational players to the excitement of a new casino even if it doesn't have poker. Hard Rock poker rooms seem to be run very well and while I'm not excited about a diluted player pool, I am excited to see what the competition brings. Will the new Hardrock have a poker room?
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10-15-2013 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Raidion
With the reserve being so big, I would imagine that the jackpot is back up to ~200k right away. I'll mention the idea of advertising to Karen because I feel like that really should bring in rec players.

This room will need some help soon because when the Hard Rock opens up at the end of the year they are going to lose recreational players to the excitement of a new casino even if it doesn't have poker. Hard Rock poker rooms seem to be run very well and while I'm not excited about a diluted player pool, I am excited to see what the competition brings. Will the new Hardrock have a poker room?
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10-15-2013 , 08:32 PM
So does anyone have tournament player amounts and results and prize info for the wednesday $200 bounty? Or all of the tournaments for that matter.
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10-15-2013 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Raidion
With the reserve being so big, I would imagine that the jackpot is back up to ~200k right away. I'll mention the idea of advertising to Karen because I feel like that really should bring in rec players.

This room will need some help soon because when the Hard Rock opens up at the end of the year they are going to lose recreational players to the excitement of a new casino even if it doesn't have poker. Hard Rock poker rooms seem to be run very well and while I'm not excited about a diluted player pool, I am excited to see what the competition brings. Will the new Hardrock have a poker room?
There are certain places like Borgata in Atlantic City where all of the 1 dollar drop goes to the bad beat fund. If this were the case in cleveland the bad beat would have probably gotten close to 500k which is basically unheard of for a bad beat where the minimum requirement is quad 2s (some places will juice their bad beats by making the minimum quad 9s or something.) Im pretty sure people would have come from out of town to play if the bad beat got that high.

As for use of the promotional fund money one of the worst things they do with the money is the added tournament money. For example, alot of people quit the 2/5 NL every week to play the winner take all tourney only because of the added money and the casino will make way less money off a person playing a tournament than a cash game. So they are actually losing money with the way they use the promotional fund. (The added money is kind of a big reason people play the tournaments so getting rid of it all at once would sort of not be a positive thing but gradually phasing it out might be a good idea.)

In addition, yeah they should spice up the promotions once in awhile. Offering the same 200 high hand every day sort of gets stale.

Just having a good manager with strong knowledge of how poker rooms operate and how to generate more revenue would probably increase the poker room's profit quite a bit.

Another example, is the must move on the 2/5 NL. Ive never met a player who likes it and there are quite a few who don't grinders and casual players alike. So why not just get rid of it?

New management is just as bad or worse than old management/no management.
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10-15-2013 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cap217
7 stars dont usually play poker so for harrahs to allow this made sense. But in cleveland we have a high number of seven star players who also play poker. Then they give their companion card to their friends and it makes it hard to get into games. Even at 1/2 plo, if the 2/5 isnt running it gets congested with a few 7s.

I thought it was harrahs policy though.



And the bad beat hit the other day. It was a guy who never played poker in a casino before. 10 min into his first session ever. Crazy.
You don't have a companion card to give out to anyone. You select one companion. 7* should be allowed all those freedoms. They're the big spenders. And why wouldn't you want one in the game?
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10-15-2013 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ezzzzz04
I dont see how thats going to keep working its in Harrahs policy ...how can a sub property just make up which rules they will follow its suppose to be universal for all properties it clearly states "Seven Stars Companion Card entitles its bearer to all Seven Stars priority service benefits"
If one 7* talks to the host it will be over. Would they rather piss off a 7* or a poker player? Easy choice
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