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08-09-2013 , 09:54 PM
Theres a new little blurb on bravo about 3 new tournements starting soon with no details other than active cash game players will be able to register 1 hr before everyone else.
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08-10-2013 , 08:20 AM
The new tourneys are listed on the bravo app. Mon. now $100 Wed. bounty and Thurs winner take all
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08-10-2013 , 11:30 AM
lolol who in the world thought that running a weekly winner take all tourney was a good idea? Oh well.
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08-10-2013 , 01:39 PM
yeah I would think you would try at least the survivor format with the top ten percent of the field getting paid, and then maybe try a winner-take-all to see if there's any interest in these formats
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08-10-2013 , 05:46 PM
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lolol who in the world thought that running a weekly winner take all tourney was a good idea? Oh well.
Should have went with a shootout or how about some sit and go's. Cant see many players giving up cash games for WTA tourney.
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08-10-2013 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Beet Farmer
Should have went with a shootout or how about some sit and go's. Cant see many players giving up cash games for WTA tourney.
The first week they may get a few, but none after that. Doing a rebuy, or a play on a rebuy where the floor has little involvement (triple chance, where dealer has all add-ons/rebuys in their trays) would be much much better. Throw a guarantee on them and they'll run. Also bummed that they got rid of the Tuesday one, I can't play Mondays and the WSOPc CIN entry looked awesome
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08-11-2013 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Teph
The first week they may get a few, but none after that. Doing a rebuy, or a play on a rebuy where the floor has little involvement (triple chance, where dealer has all add-ons/rebuys in their trays) would be much much better. Throw a guarantee on them and they'll run. Also bummed that they got rid of the Tuesday one, I can't play Mondays and the WSOPc CIN entry looked awesome
Fear not.....looks like they just added the tues tourney to bravo.
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08-14-2013 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PrinceHenry
All the circuit stop schedules are pretty similar. Mostly 350 - 550 NL. The main events are always 1650 and run Fri. - Mon at the start of the second week. They will have one or two PLO tournies (most likely) since that is the only other game that really runs outside of NLH in Cleveland. Usually the stops have one or two nonholdem events.
This is mostly accurate, but does vary from stop to stop. The Main Event's starting flight days do vary. The choice of Non-NLHE events vary depending on interest and local player community.

IMO, there is enough of a community that a PLO8 MTT could run. The cash games seem to get off periodically.
Also, there are a number of PLO8 MTT players that would travel to play an event, especially if it's near a weekend (Fri-Mon).


IMO, the best format to run and appease a diverse group of tournament players:
A. NLHE Multi-Day/Re-Entry at 12:00PM on (Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon) - allows for bigger prize pools.
B. Non-NLHE (like PLO8 or PLO) at 5:00PM.

This was best seen w/ NLHE multi-flight reentry and PLO8/HORSE in 2012-2013 WSOP-C West Palm Beach Schedule
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08-15-2013 , 12:43 PM
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This is mostly accurate, but does vary from stop to stop. The Main Event's starting flight days do vary. The choice of Non-NLHE events vary depending on interest and local player community.

IMO, there is enough of a community that a PLO8 MTT could run. The cash games seem to get off periodically.
Also, there are a number of PLO8 MTT players that would travel to play an event, especially if it's near a weekend (Fri-Mon).


IMO, the best format to run and appease a diverse group of tournament players:
A. NLHE Multi-Day/Re-Entry at 12:00PM on (Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon) - allows for bigger prize pools.
B. Non-NLHE (like PLO8 or PLO) at 5:00PM.

This was best seen w/ NLHE multi-flight reentry and PLO8/HORSE in 2012-2013 WSOP-C West Palm Beach Schedule

Of course any event they run is going to get 80 or 90 runners just because there will be people who travel the circuit to play for points. But it would be pretty silly to run a PLO8 and not run a PLO considering their relative popularity in Cleveland (they could run both and that would not be silly.)

But yeah mixing in some 5pm events or morning afternoon flights is a good idea.
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08-15-2013 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PrinceHenry
Of course any event they run is going to get 80 or 90 runners just because there will be people who travel the circuit to play for points. But it would be pretty silly to run a PLO8 and not run a PLO considering their relative popularity in Cleveland (they could run both and that would not be silly.)

But yeah mixing in some 5pm events or morning afternoon flights is a good idea.
The number of cash games that run does not necessarily correlate directly with the number of runners you'll get for a particular type of tournament.

Despite there being very few PLO8 cash games anywhere in the country, even in Vegas during the Series (partially because it was overtaken by Big O), there have a decent number of runners for most of the PLO8 MTTs, including at WSOP-c sites where there are practically no PLO8 cash games ever. I was actually surprised that some of the smaller PLO MTTs in Vegas got fewer runners than their PLO8 equivalent MTTs, despite PLO cash games being hugely more popular than PLO8 cash games...

That being said, I definitely think they should have both a PLO and a PLO8 MTT as part of the circuit schedule (which, btw, isn't for a long time...).

(P.S. That previous post about a monthly PLO8 MTT was a rumor- PLO and PLO8 MTTs are both no longer part of the weekly/monthly tournaments at the Shoe.)
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08-15-2013 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerella
The number of cash games that run does not necessarily correlate directly with the number of runners you'll get for a particular type of tournament.

Despite there being very few PLO8 cash games anywhere in the country, even in Vegas during the Series (partially because it was overtaken by Big O), there have a decent number of runners for most of the PLO8 MTTs, including at WSOP-c sites where there are practically no PLO8 cash games ever. I was actually surprised that some of the smaller PLO MTTs in Vegas got fewer runners than their PLO8 equivalent MTTs, despite PLO cash games being hugely more popular than PLO8 cash games...

That being said, I definitely think they should have both a PLO and a PLO8 MTT as part of the circuit schedule (which, btw, isn't for a long time...).

(P.S. That previous post about a monthly PLO8 MTT was a rumor- PLO and PLO8 MTTs are both no longer part of the weekly/monthly tournaments at the Shoe.)
Yeah i don't really care about a tournament schedule let alone one that 8 months away or whatever.

Just pointing out that the first tournament game they should offer after NLH is PLO considering they have alot of good customers who play (downstairs and poker room customers). If they have room for a 3rd game its PLO8.

Speaking of doing things logically i figured they would offer more chips at the new tourneys and get rid of the penalties on exposed cards (and one of the floor guys still thinks they give out penalties for accidently exposing your cards at the WSOP - he has obviously never been to the WSOP). (They could give more chips in the tourneys and not make them take longer - just shorten the levels a tad - which is a bigger factor on how long tournies take). Just pointing things out. And you will see the winner take all tourney will be a big flop - maybe not today but by in a few weeks it will be.

But whatever, room should operate more logically and listen more to the players (many of whom know more poker than the floor people - just a fact some of the players have just been around it way longer).
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08-18-2013 , 08:45 AM
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Yeah i don't really care about a tournament schedule let alone one that 8 months away or whatever.

Just pointing out that the first tournament game they should offer after NLH is PLO considering they have alot of good customers who play (downstairs and poker room customers). If they have room for a 3rd game its PLO8.

Speaking of doing things logically i figured they would offer more chips at the new tourneys and get rid of the penalties on exposed cards (and one of the floor guys still thinks they give out penalties for accidently exposing your cards at the WSOP - he has obviously never been to the WSOP). (They could give more chips in the tourneys and not make them take longer - just shorten the levels a tad - which is a bigger factor on how long tournies take). Just pointing things out. And you will see the winner take all tourney will be a big flop - maybe not today but by in a few weeks it will be.

But whatever, room should operate more logically and listen more to the players (many of whom know more poker than the floor people - just a fact some of the players have just been around it way longer).
This possibly the worst tournament idea ever. Having to wait over a month to get new tournaments approved by the board is bad enough. Then having this tournament be the one you're trying to get approved is even worse.
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08-19-2013 , 07:02 PM
Anyone play in last weeks "Button Tournament"? Wondering how many they got? How the Bubble Boy getting the seat in Cincy went down as well. And also...if you get a seat can you sell it? or get cash if you can't make it? My understanding is they are using the promotion fund to give out the seat so if you can't use it, is the money just profit for the Shoe???
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08-19-2013 , 07:54 PM
I'll find out tomorrow. Only 113 played in $100 tournament today
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08-19-2013 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Beet Farmer
Anyone play in last weeks "Button Tournament"? Wondering how many they got? How the Bubble Boy getting the seat in Cincy went down as well. And also...if you get a seat can you sell it? or get cash if you can't make it? My understanding is they are using the promotion fund to give out the seat so if you can't use it, is the money just profit for the Shoe???
Down here at the "Shoe" in Cincinnati, the seats they are giving away are, "non-transferable and exclusively redeemable to play the Horseshoe Cincinnati WSOPC Main Event, No Cash Option". This is from their website.
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08-19-2013 , 10:00 PM
Played in the Button tourney last week. It's far more interesting than I though, because as long as the guy two spots on your left isn't constantly winning, you're never in the BB.

Tourney got around 100 players.

Also, a dead stack got blinded down pretty hard (I was two to the right ) before it was bought. This guy bought it right before the break, and was pissed to see his stack at only 3k (starting stack was 5k with the add on). He talked to the floor, and apparently, the rule is that if you ask for a full stack, they have to give you one.
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08-20-2013 , 08:02 AM
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Down here at the "Shoe" in Cincinnati, the seats they are giving away are, "non-transferable and exclusively redeemable to play the Horseshoe Cincinnati WSOPC Main Event, No Cash Option". This is from their website.
The no cash option is very fishy. If they are in fact using the promotional fund to pay for theses seats, then whats the difference if the player gets cash or the entry? Leaves the door wide open for the promotional money to be deducted, then pocketed by the casino if the player can't make it.
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08-20-2013 , 11:32 AM
I am considering moving back to my home state of ohio, in the greater cleveland area, for a 1/2 grinder is there good action at all hours at this casino? how about 2/5 and 5/10 ?
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08-20-2013 , 11:42 AM
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I am considering moving back to my home state of ohio, in the greater cleveland area, for a 1/2 grinder is there good action at all hours at this casino? how about 2/5 and 5/10 ?
There are tons of 1/2 tables going pretty much all the time. Was just there last night (Monday night) and there were something like 14 1/2NL tables, 2 2/5NL tables, 1 1/2PLO table and a 2/5PLO table that broke up around 10pm.

Weekends at night they will fill all 30 tables with various games. 5/10 runs weekend nights from time to time but not regularly from what I've seen.
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08-20-2013 , 04:17 PM
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The no cash option is very fishy. If they are in fact using the promotional fund to pay for theses seats, then whats the difference if the player gets cash or the entry? Leaves the door wide open for the promotional money to be deducted, then pocketed by the casino if the player can't make it.
I would not say its fishy at all. If you don't want the seat don't play the tourney. It is added money from other players but its mostly a transfer from a bunch of cash players to tourney players so I don't think making them play the tourney is bad. Throwing in like 300 cash for travel might be nice though. But a big percentage of players might not play if the could take cash. Probably like 90 percent so if they are trying to help the cinci circuit than not allowing cash is not really that bad.
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08-22-2013 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PrinceHenry
I would not say its fishy at all. If you don't want the seat don't play the tourney. It is added money from other players but its mostly a transfer from a bunch of cash players to tourney players so I don't think making them play the tourney is bad. Throwing in like 300 cash for travel might be nice though. But a big percentage of players might not play if the could take cash. Probably like 90 percent so if they are trying to help the cinci circuit than not allowing cash is not really that bad.
They are going to do a promo from Sept 1-18 at cash games where a random table is selected and a high card is dealt 6 times a day and the high card gets a seat into the main event--and this is also non-transferable and no cash option is allowed.

So I agree with your tourney assessment, but it is weird that cash players in that promo that do not play tourneys can't transfer or get a cash option for the seat value.
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08-22-2013 , 12:14 PM
Yeah but if they gave you either 1650 cash or a 1650 seat almost everyone will take the cash because they can still use it on the tourney if they choose. The only criticism I have is that the travel cost of going to cinci on your own is going to be about 200 bucks just to play the tourney (and we all know there are some broke ****s out there). So kicking in some bad beat cash for travel costs would be reasonable (its not like cinci is around the corner from cleveland).
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08-22-2013 , 04:02 PM
The 7pm Wednesday bounty turnny ended at 6am! It would have went longer but i think they did some small deal. Working people cant play til 6am. They need to fix this.
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08-23-2013 , 09:26 AM
lol wat, how many runners were there?!
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08-26-2013 , 08:49 PM
Any word on how the bubble went for the $100 tourney?
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