Parking will be the major suck.... should be easy to get in the casino though.

Originally posted in the Cinci JACK forum...whoops. I guess I have the same questions as Berge. Will be in Cleveland in a couple of weeks and will probably try to make it over to JACK for the first time. Any idea how the parking etc will be impacted by the Convention coming to town (where is the best place to park) ...also wait list etc. Any idea if the room is planning for a big week. Thanks in advance for any insight.

What's the parking situation down there today?

I tried going about midnight last night and couldn't drive my car anywhere near the casino. All the roads are blocked off, barricaded, police everywhere. Apparently Tower City is where you need to park starting 6pm Saturday (today). I'm not even sure how one would get there though. I ended up giving up and heading home. Waiting to hear how to do this or where to go, if I want to play this week... other than taxi/Uber drop me off somewhere within a 15 min walk.

This literally was the biggest deterrent for me NOT coming to this casino. Live halfway between Cleveland and Toledo, and would go to Toledo simply for the chairs.

In Cleveland, the new chairs/chips/setup is nice IMO. I'm just a casual, once-a-month player.

Bravo is showing 0 active games... not sure about the rest of the casino... but I think they picked the wrong week to convert from Caesars to Jack...

Yeah it's near impossible to get anywhere near the place.

?? They converted over in May

easiest way to park is to enter tower city through the flats.

They validate your parking too?

The casino was validating parking in tower city over the weekend, i know that cause i was there. I am not a 100 percent sure they are during the week but i would bet that they are.

How would one get to Tower City parking? Most of those roads are closed and I don't know my way around downtown too well.

you enter tower city off of canal road. When i went i took west 25th, to columbus, to canal. It was real easy but like i said that was over the week end.

Anyone know if the garage will be open Friday?

I really enjoyed playing there during the RNC. I shut the room down one night up a winner then donked it off in the pits trying to get some lobbyist strange. Good times were had by none at that point but hopefully I have some decent comps.

Been playing in the 2/5 feeder for 7 hours. We get down to 4 handed and the floor decides they won't give us a reduced rake while we wait to get to the main game. I hope this place eventually gets some real completion so I never have to step foot in here again.

Closest competition it will ever get will be in another state.

I can't believe that we don't have poker rooms at all the racinos. The Florida model (from what I can tell) seems like it really works. For those uninitiated, it seems like horse and dog tracks down there are able to legally have card rooms. The rooms run traditional poker games and some random table games that are poker in nature.

It seems like a lot of the hurdles of opening a new room would be avoided by opening one at a location where gambling is already happening. There wouldn't be an NIMBY situations. The facilities and infrastructure are designed with safety features and personnel already (one hopes). And finally, gambling regulators would not have increased administrative costs of regulating additional sites.

I like going to clubs but I think a poker room at Northfield or Scioto Downs would provide an air of legitimacy and safety that are missing from the club experience and probably cause my habits to change quickly. The volume of racinos and their proximities to casinos would provide some much needed competition in the somewhat insular markets.

The state constitution will not allow the racinos to have poker rooms or table games. The state constitution is the reason the race tracks are called racinos and have VLTs instead of slots. They had to use a technicality to get around the constitution to even have racinos.

That's unreal. You should have said alright cool then you get zero rake and left the game.

They don't care, have seen them threaten to fill the table / re-use the dealer for a full 1/3 game instead... they'd prefer that.

Does anybody know the manager's email? Someone should drop him an email and let him know this thread exists. I feel like better communication would help a lot. I'm still confused as to why they're not making an effort to run 2/5 more and why they seem to be stingy with the promo money (why is there over 200k in the fund but the only promo is once a week for 6 hours?).

That would be nice.

Also, they use our promo money to juice their profits by gaining more traffic at an abnormal time of the week. To top it off, many people can't play those hours. Why should they subsidize those who can? (I was able to play btw, so it's not bias talking.)

Moreover, one of the floors said in response to someone yesterday "We're giving away $500 free dollars, you can follow our rules" when someone objected to some rule regarding the promo. Wtf? We contributed every last dollar to that fund. Their attitude is just so awful.

Yeah there are just so many things wrong with that statement lol.

Where the promo succeeds:

- Brings people in
- It's exciting

Where the promo fails:

- Requires you to commit all or some of your stack to win your own money (it is OUR money after all), and as a result...
- Inherently is more advantageous to limit players since the risk to win is significantly lower compared to NL and PLO
- Incentivizes min buyins which is really bad for the game
- During the work day, which is a problem because more money is contributed to the promo fund in the evening when there are more games running, and those evening players are unable to win it back. This wouldn't be an issue if there were evening promos.

The 50k freeroll is even worse. Tournament players should not be able to win promo money, period. It's distasteful and wrong to use money contributed by cash players to increase tournament traffic.

Promos should:

- Be won by the players that contributed it
- Not directly require risking more money to win it
- Increase cash game traffic

None of the current promos fit that common sense criteria.

Every casino, uses the promo fund to drive traffic at times when they would not have it anyway. At least that is what the smart ones do...it's not for your benefit, they are giving you back your own money.

Yes, people should be more outraged that promo fund dollars go to tournament players who don't contribute to the fund...and the ridiculous rake on the tournaments....