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Has anyone else noticed how most players have not adjusted at all to stack sizes or pre flop raise sizes at 1-3 thus far? Most tables I have been at are playing bigger because of this.

What are the sizes you're seeing? I've played there where the standard open at 200nl was between 10-12. Peoples sizing there really confuses the hell out of me.

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11-17-2015 , 10:07 PM

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As2s3s4s5s

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Originally Posted by BoostedB

What are the sizes you're seeing? I've played there where the standard open at 200nl was between 10-12. Peoples sizing there really confuses the hell out of me.

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11-17-2015 , 10:18 PM

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cannabusto

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I understand how no one adjusts. But how does that result in more money being on the table? Or do you just mean the games are playing deeper?

When I say deeper, I mean to say that if the standard raise is still 10-12, then it is a deeper game when stack sizes are around 150BBs rather than 100. But I don't see how the lack of adjustment causes more money to be in play.

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11-17-2015 , 11:10 PM

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TR3V

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The only difference I noticed in the short time I played was the preflop raises... in 1/2 they were in the $6-$12 range, with a lot of $10 raises. Now the pre flop raises I see are more like $10 - $18 with a lot of $12 and $13 pre flop raises.

After the flop, I wouldn't know it wasn't a 1/2 game... random amounts, all in short stacks, bingo players calling any two cards....

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11-18-2015 , 07:49 PM

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BadBeatsComing

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Anybody playing in the 5k gtd tonight?

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11-18-2015 , 09:00 PM

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BoostedB

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Originally Posted by BadBeatsComing

Anybody playing in the 5k gtd tonight?

I thought they got rid of all the weekly guarantees. I'll come by next Wed. for it. Are you there? If so how is the turnout?

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11-18-2015 , 10:32 PM

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As2s3s4s5s

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It's Wednesday night and there is no LHE running or $2/$5 NLHE running. $2/$5 NLHE is going to run much less Monday - Thursday with a $1,000 cap.

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11-18-2015 , 10:37 PM

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CFalls

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Have they run those $80 weekend tournaments yet? Anyone have any idea of turnout? I haven't played but don't think I'd mind them much as it's the only way I can get a bunch of my random friends to play. I guess it's mentality of "Oh, it's under $100 whatever. But if it's a $150 it's way too steep."

Then again if they get 20 people, I'd rather stay home and play online.

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11-18-2015 , 11:10 PM

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BadBeatsComing

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Originally Posted by BoostedB

I thought they got rid of all the weekly guarantees. I'll come by next Wed. for it. Are you there? If so how is the turnout?

Busted in 23rd.

$25 bounties, paying 2k to first.

Most of the tourney schedule was changed, Wednesday tournies remained the same.

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11-18-2015 , 11:18 PM

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BoostedB

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Originally Posted by BadBeatsComing

Busted in 23rd.

$25 bounties, paying 2k to first.

Most of the tourney schedule was changed, Wednesday tournies remained the same.

So is the structure the old one with antes?

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11-18-2015 , 11:35 PM

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BadBeatsComing

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Originally Posted by BoostedB

So is the structure the old one with antes?

Yes.

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11-19-2015 , 01:00 AM

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coinflipper

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anything planned tourney wise for black friday or that saturday/sunday?

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11-19-2015 , 07:11 PM

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CFalls

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Originally Posted by coinflipper

anything planned tourney wise for black friday or that saturday/sunday?

Doubt it they would be promoting the hell out of it. They need at least 30 days to get OGC approval on anything so they can't throw something together last second.

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11-20-2015 , 10:02 AM

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ythelongface

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Originally Posted by BoostedB

I'm pretty new to live poker in general, is this typically how a live card room is run or is Cleveland just really bad?

Not typical. This room is just badly run.

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11-20-2015 , 08:37 PM

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BoostedB

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Originally Posted by ythelongface

Not typical. This room is just badly run.

I figured this to be the case.

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11-20-2015 , 08:56 PM

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Beet Farmer

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Friday night tourney got 30 tonight.....basically a sit and go.

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11-20-2015 , 09:27 PM

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BoostedB

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Originally Posted by Beet Farmer

Friday night tourney got 30 tonight.....basically a sit and go.

Thursday was the same I checked in before the cavs game they almost didn't have 10 to start it. Late reg helped I guess

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11-21-2015 , 04:58 PM

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FoldJJ

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Bravo app shows 37 players for today's $80 buy in. $2220 prize pool. That's a $60 payout per player. Hell of a rake when you add in the $10 dealer add on. Already down to 5 players. I think I'll pass.

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11-21-2015 , 06:33 PM

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skydancing8

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Originally Posted by FoldJJ

I'm curious to see what tonight's turnout will be.

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11-21-2015 , 09:19 PM

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As2s3s4s5s

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Friday night at 8 PM and there is one $2/$5 NLHE with no list.

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11-22-2015 , 12:34 PM

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cannabusto

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Low traffic or was everyone playing 1/3?

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11-22-2015 , 01:11 PM

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jumper425

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Originally Posted by As2s3s4s5s

Friday night at 8 PM and there is one $2/$5 NLHE with no list.

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I think you meant Saturday night. I played Friday night and there were 2 tables running til past 1am. Most of the players coming to the table were not aware of the new buyins, and when told, none of them chipped up from their $500 to 1k.

With 1/3, it's going to be tough to keep a 2/5 table going during the week.

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11-22-2015 , 01:32 PM

#2523

Hendonslob

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The 2/5 is basically dead in Cleveland, it is just not a good game or a fun game anymore and I don't see it coming back. PLO took most of the action, just a fact. I don't think the player pool in Cleveland can support a good 2/5 game and a good PLO game.

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11-22-2015 , 02:27 PM

#2524

PLOYOLOCO

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any of the PLO regs on here?

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11-22-2015 , 10:02 PM

#2525

jumper425

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[QUOTE=Hendonslob;48714957]The 2/5 is basically dead in Cleveland, it is just not a good game or a fun game anymore and I don't see it coming back. PLO took most of the action, just a fact. I don't think the player pool in Cleveland can support a good 2/5 game and a good PLO game.[/QUOTE

I'm curious what is your definition of a "good 2/5 game"?

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