just to clarify, if there are still questions about the Tier Score and Reward Credits.
Yesterday, played 2/5 NL for 7 hours:

Tier score increase 122 = 17 an hour
Reward Credits increase 702 = 100 an hour

so if 1 Rewards credit = 1 cent, I was being comped a dollar an hour

Hopefully, the 5/10 NLHE and (at least) 2/5 PLO continue getting off fairly regularly on the weekends. IMO, it's still way too early to tell if 5/10 NLHE will be a regular occurrence b/c there's still too much "buzz" about the newness of the casino. If the 5/10 gets off regularly after July 4th weekend (about 6 weeks after the opening), then it might be sustainable.

wish they wouldnt spread so many 3-6 and 1-2 games and exhaust all of their dealers and tables. seems they easily have the interest to add a few more 2-5 plo and nl games.

also, cant figure out how there can be so many 3-6 lhe games and then no interest for anything higher.

broke nits?

I started a 20/40 list and it never ran. They called the table once but only 2 others showed up to play. I keep trying for a 20/40 though.

Also, they split the room for high-limits and 1/2 and 3/6. The dealers on the one side of the room are all good but the other dealers are horrible in every way. Takes them 5 min to count the rack when they sit down. And if you get stuck at a 1/2 PLO on the other side of the floor then you are in for a long day.

2/5 PLO has run every day. 5/10 not sure but it has been running the days I have played. Also, there is talk of getting 10/25 PLO once a week but there are a few issues with that game running weekly.

Also, in a week or 2 most of the higher limit players are headed to Vegas so those games are going to suffer. There are 3-5 2/5 PLO regs that are all going to be gone. And I assume most of the 5/10 NL players.

If they don't get a good mix of mid stakes LHE games, the rake will dry up any long term interest.

hmm, if i am around i will be in to start a 20-40 for sure. lhe used to be huge in cleveland and a rebirth would be great. havent seen the crazy guys who used to tilt off cash in those games.

i think i will be there around 5-6 today and will add my name to the interest list.

still, for any sustainability, I think the room need steps up to that level. with all the 3-6 games running, i think the guys running hot in those games would gladly support a few 5-10 games, and then at least a single 10-20. get that established and 20-40 wont be far off.

ofc, there is really no incentive for the casino to shift resources to higher stakes games as they rake the same at all levels. may as well keep it low, minimize how much the players take home, and minimize the intensity that comes with higher stakes.

Not sure what you mean by the last comment but if its about the split of dealers then its obvious what dealers deal on what side of the room and I also confirmed it with management. They said until the dealers get practice, the good ones will stay on the high-limit side.

For the long term health of the club, they are going to have to promote the games. A few years back the Venetian lowered the rake on the 8-16 LHE game from $4 to $3 (no bbjp) to attract/drive players to that game. At the very least Horseshoe would do better from a rake standpoint if they would just raise it up to 4-8.

the V 8/16 was 2/rake!

I'll stop by to say hi but not expecting a game.

I just mean that they have dealers for say 25 tables. it would be nice if rather than running another 1-2 or 3-6 game, they would hold off and wait for interest in a higher game to occur. it seems from the wait lists that they could easily get another few 2-5 plo or nl games going every night.

eta, i guess you mean that they simply dont have enough competent dealers to spread more high games and that would make some sense.

limit player here and would like a 4-8 like rivers.....w kill

50-100 PLO going on according to bravo.

I'd guess that's a mislabeled 5-10 PLO.

Pure speculation but more probable

Anybody confirm 50/100 PLO? Or is/was it just mislabeled?

50/100 game is running, was 4 handed then went to HU.

Paraphrased from my friend "1 Asian and 1 fat white guy"

really bad tonight. there is clear interest in starting more 2-5 and 5-10 nl or plo games but the floor just sits there with like 50 ppl combined on lists.

also, interest list for 5-10 lhe got up to like 15 ppl and then was just deleted? lol. like a half hour later someone started another list. if they have no interest in spreading the game they should just not even start a list.

Yeah this is super annoying.

FWIW, whoever said that taking the receipt from the garage would suffice as 24 hr parking validation, this is incorrect. I spoke with the day crew and they seemed to confirm when I asked, tonight however, I had to back out and get approval from the office. I would just avoid the potential PITA and just talk to the total rewards desk.

Also, confirmed 50/100 plo.

Lol, I was cashing out right behind the dude that walked out of there with a plastic bag full of 50k cash. Took them awhile to count the money, as you can imagine.

The 50/100 PLO was a 50k min buyin, so that explains the bag full of cash.

I saw the 50/100 PLO on Bravo, but noticed 5/10 PLO had a pretty good waiting list, so I thought the 50/100 was just a typo!

I played my first ever live session of PLO yesterday after hearing about how good the games were. There seems to be a lot of action junkies playing PLO in Cleveland the past couple of months and that's definitely carried over to the Horseshoe.

I want there last night. I will probably go tonight and start a 20/40 list as well as 5/10 limit and horse.

I will talk to Jeremy and Jake and see what the issue is with the list getting long and then deleted. I assume they dont have the staff/tables.