Well it seems that my hope that limit hold em--at any stakes--would be found at Horseshoe Indianapolis is dead. Been watching on Bravo and so far not only have I not seen any limit hold em games go, I have not even seen an interest list for one.
Very disappointing.

Any photos of the new room?

Stopped in for the first time Friday, action was great. I have to say, the room was ran pretty awful though. There was a 40+ person wait list and they still couldn't keep tables full, the main floor guy kicked a player out of his seat while he was going to get money out of his truck and was gone for no more than 8 minutes because he just broke a table (one of the dumbest decisions I've ever witnessed) and 3/4th of the dealers barely had a clue.

The room is also way too small they vastly underestimated how big this room will be if they run it correctly. No idea how they plan to run tournaments on the weekend it's going to be a **** show. No button straddle was a big complaint from everyone at my tables as well. 5/10 overall.

Edit: For the love of God, open the cage in the room it's very uncomfortable dealing with thousands of dollars in a big line of people checking in with piles of money just sitting there. (also very dangerous and dumb for the room to do that in general)

Hope they get it together, this will be the biggest room in the midwest by far if they do. Probably need to add about 5-10 tables.

I totally agree MirracleMaker, here's my Review Thread from Horseshoe Indy that I posted yesterday. Let me know if all that happened to us sounds familiar to you LOL


Respectfully...
This is a Brand New Poker Room & this Review is from our visit on Saturday, Feb 19th. We've been to every serious Poker Room in a 3-4hr radius of here over the last 2 decades. Let me give you a little background locally first. The Indy/East Central Indiana area had their Poker Boom 20 years ago so this is a VERY experienced area overall. There are dozens of Charity Poker Games that range from Highly Experienced & better ran than a lot of Casino Poker to games that more resemble a Home Poker Game with little knowledge of Rules or Etiquette. Unfortunately at this early point of the Poker Rooms existence it is somewhere in between a decent Casino Poker Room & at times a barely playable Home Game. I/we played a handful of hours on this Saturday night with no expectations & an experienced open mind along with just wanting to get out & play Poker a few hours...
Heres what ensued...

After walking into the Casino we realized again that this is a very PRO Smoking Casino with more smokers gathered together than I'd seen since the mid 80's. I am writing this Review battling one of those headaches you get after being around heavy smoke for a few hours. No biggie I'm fine thanks for asking. Of course Casinos put the Poker Room at the farthest point from the front door so you can Quarter/Dollar yourself to death on the way to the Poker Room unless you're very disciplined. Now that's fine but this Casino has every Ticket Redemption/Player Card machine pointed to the main aisle which causes a line in the middle of where everyone is walking on a busy Saturday night. After making it to the Poker Room with only a couple extra bruises I realize the Poker Room opening is being guarded by a 40'x40' Bar for drinks. Seems fine but then after walking around it to get in the Poker Room I realize it is really too darn close to the room. The area is tight to get in & out of the Poker Room at times & I can only imagine when they get a WSOP Circuit Event here it will be a total mess. NOW after all that, the Poker Room is really nice with appealing colors & etc. The initial Hello to Leo & the list process was easy thanks to BravoPokerLive. Unfortunately this is where the appeal ended. Upon sitting down on 1/2PLO which was the 2nd biggest game running my wife had to brush away a ton of Turkey, bread & food crumbs to be able to set her chips down without them being in that trash. MOST Casinos don't allow players to eat at the table & that should def be the same here. It didn't take long to realize that the dealers were so inexperienced that even the most common Poker Rules were not burned in their brains from experience. Most of the Dealers acknowledged that they have NEVER played Hold'em let alone Omaha before��! There were a few local experienced good dealers that are good there but they were even talking to players at the table about how bad the other dealers were lol. Most were very nice & trying their best which unfortunately isn't good enough with so many Poker choices & the other really great Dealers in Indy/East Central Indiana areas. Experienced players are having to teach the dealers themselves while playing & stopping them from mistakes & misdeals constantly. They have a lot of 1/3NL Hold'em action going & I'm sure those had to run smoother than PL Omaha. They're talking about doing Tournaments soon but at this point I think that would be a really bad idea.
Heres what should've been done... Horseshoe should've flown in a dozen or two dozen very experienced dealers that are wanting to get away from their properties that are slow right now. Mix in those "Real" Dealers from other Properties to show these "Green" Dealers the ropes & how it is really done. That would've been a smoother transition with the bad Dealers learning a lot watching the Pro Dealers in action. I've been to new Poker Rooms before & I've never had ALL this happen to us in my life let alone in just this small 4hr session. You'd think with the Bar guarding the Poker Room that maybe a waitress would come by & get drink orders. Nope we had 1 waitress come by my table in 4+hrs. If you have to go & get your own drink, do not tip for zero customer service...
TIPS = (To Insure Proper Service)
So if you visit here in the next few months "Keep your Expectations Low & You'll Never be Disappointed"
I'm sure this room will get better with more experience & overall Poker Room knowledge & Room etiquette.
Here's some examples of what happened to us & other players. At least the ones I can remember.

1. The Floor let a well known local player who's been kicked out of every local Poker Room to be loud, disruptive & verbally abuse the dealers & players for hours at the poker table to the left of the front desk. Why do you think all the other places don't allow him to play?

2. Local "Legendary" Player turned Dealer calls misdeal while trying to back up the cards after having half the cards out just because his friend he showed Bias towards was walking back 20ft away & wanted in that hand. Wasting what seemed like an eternity redealing a hand that was already out.

3. Dealers are not always understanding how to properly calculate a pot size bet in Omaha. They don't seem to know the difference between 1/2 PLO & 5/5 PLO on what players are able to bet/raise. Not all players like to have to keep track of the action like they're dealing as well.

4. Dealers are not announcing the Straddle at all so the players are having to announce it to the table to keep the action straight.

5. Dealers do not understand or are misunderstanding the "1 Chip Rule" or even that anything a player says during the hand is "Binding"

6. Dealers are not keeping track of the button, one dealer moved it backwards during the hand totally messing up the action & betting turns then another dealer moving it twice & with action already happening it could not be fixed. This happens occasionally even at good games but it was every dealer that came in all night except 2.

7. Dealers not knowing how to let a player properly "Buy the Button" instead of waiting 2 hands to play. It's simple they pay both blinds & the small is dead in the middle. Button moves to them next & yeah that player to their left gets out of paying his BB occasionally.

8. Dealers not knowing or policing the buyin ranges for each different game. This goes with the experience of just being able to glance at a players chip stack & knowing what's there.

9. Dealers picking & choosing when to keep players off their phone while they're in a current hand. Another simple one that's based on kinda recent Mike Postle cheating scandal. If you're in the Hand you can't be on the phone period! You can't text your Bro, you can't play an App poker game & you can't text your dude Brad across the table what Hand you have.

10. Dealers not "Clearing the Board" before moving onto giving change or dealing with a chip runner, house, etc. So most of the time after the hand the playing area is a mess with the Dealer having to separate cards & chips for them just to push normal size pots.

11. Dealers messing with Bravo on their table instead of dealing the hand out & then fixing the small issue on Bravo of a player not being signed in. Slows the game down considerably & is not efficient at all.

MAJOR FLOOR ISSUE
Follow with me here...Somehow the 2nd PLO table breaks with 5 waiting on the list! THEN the Floor guy Leo says the 2 players that were actively playing on that table for hours that somehow broke had to go to THE BOTTOM of the list! These players on this table that's played for hours should've been put ahead of the players that just got on the list! Leo then got rude after he realized he was being questioned & said they'd have to take it up with the manager.
SO he ruled that if you're in a game that somehow the floor can't keep full even though there's 5 on the list... Then if all but 2 players leave the table because the floor didn't keep it full then the Floor will put the players that are left at the BOTTOM of the list...Pretty unbelievable!

POKER ROOM CASH CAGE
You can buy chips here BUT they will let a handful of people stand in line waiting to Cash Out but then guess what...
You CAN'T Cash Out here, you can only buy chips... How about a SIGN or someone actively letting people know they can't Cash Out there. It doesn't take much to recognize or realize when a player is standing there with racks of chips that they're wanting to cash out. If you make it to the Cash Cage with Racks & don't know you can't Cash Out there what will happen instead is they will just chip you up so you don't have to carry as many. Just close the Cage until you are able to do all the duties of a Cash Cage.

BONUS [HAND UPDATE] from
2/5NL Hold'em "ACTION"on
Monday 2/21/22:
There's a $10 Straddle & a player Verbally announces RAISE & throws in 1 Black Chip with 2 callers & then things get weird... Next player questions what the Raise was & BOTH the Dealer & Floor (Ester) RULED that the Verbal $100 One Chip Raise is a MIN RAISE to $20!?!?

Thank you & we all await your future Poker Room that's more on top of its game!

Are masks required in the Shelbyville casino/at the table? Do you have to show some type of Caesars Card? Are there UTG straddles and/or BTN straddles? How long do we have to wait on the waitlists for 2/5+ nl? How often does 5/10nl run? Is there food/alcohol service? Can we take meal breaks without getting picked up?

And in general, are all these casinos planning on operating 24/7 now that covid is hopefully normalizing? Or was that the state of affairs before COVID? It's been years for me.

I looked on Bravo one weekend night and there was more demand than there were tables (20).

Hey DifferentName,
Thankfully masks aren't required to participate at this Casino or Poker Room. Although I would recommend finding an alternative way to breath in clean Oxygen at this Heavy Smokers Casino. You do not have to check in the Poker Room with a Ceasers Card. Although they will prefer it to get you on a list you DO NOT have to use one as they could just type in your name as well. Right now only UTG Straddles are allowed & they should stick to that so the whole Straddle situation doesn't confuse the Dealers even more. There is a certain weekday they run 5/10NL but it's generally only 1 table with maybe a few waiting. When we went last Saturday night at 9pm there was only one 2/5NL table running with a few waiting. This Room is primarily a 1/3NL Hold'em Room with a only a couple/few tables in the Room running anything else.
There is Food & Alcohol available but unfortunately you will have to go find it for yourself. In 5hrs we had ONE waitress come by the Poker Room for drinks. I believe there's better drink service in the Mohave Desert...
Yes you can take EXTRA long Meal Breaks or go to the Parking Garage to partake in other more appealing smoke. The Dealers DO NOT Police players being gone for too long whatsoever! They're only there 30min & most are so inexperienced that they are using all of their brain power to deal cards & there's none left for the other things they need to keep track of. This Poker Room is saying they are going to go to 24hrs soon. They should've been 24hrs from the start on Fridays & Saturdays only. Now after a month being open they went to 7 days a week & finally talking 24hrs. The Casino is & has been 24hrs but once you're done with Poker just run full sprint out the front door lol.
I was impressed by the Action looking at Bravo myself although it was obvious there was tons of small NL Hold'em. I'm not sure what games you play if it's the games you are asking about then you will be disappointed by those larger game choices. Also something I touched on in my Review. The Floor was not running the Bravo properly. There were open seats on nearly every table yet they weren't filling them even with a list. I'm not sure if that was by design to make it look busier than it really is or what. One example was that my wife's PLO table busted with 5 waiting on the list & 3 players still at the table?! That's pretty obvious right there either Floor was either a bad multitasker or it's by design. Oh yeah also in my Review...That PLO table they broke, the same Floor wanted to put those current players back on list but BEHIND the others that recently got on the list?!
We were hoping it was better than what it was because Cincy Hard Rock has always been our spot but Indy is closer.
They will get better because there's not much else they could get worse at! If you happen to go then best of luck & let us all know how it went for you.

Can someone provide a method to locate the charity poker action in Indiana? I've (somewhat) tried to search the Gaming website for approved locations or licenses and failed. There may be some limitations on advertising games but I'd think that there would be an avenue in locating approved locations, dates, times .. et .. since the government is involved.

(Maybe they want to keep everything a secret so the outside sharks stay away)

I see there was an 'headline' issue in one Indy room in 2018 but I didn't dive into the article to see what the result or cause ended up being.

I'll stand by my 'starved' comment when over 200 people have interest in playing poker on a weekend night. Perhaps the locals aren't sure how to locate the charities either. Big hitters and OMCs can always find a game.

Hopefully the room can work out the kinks, I know I'd be 'on point' if all the issues described above were happening around me as I tried to play. If the Floors and Dealers are stand-off-ish it will not go well. Ignorance can be tolerated short term, but if there's no learning or adjusting going on and no appreciation of the patrons coming in, then the room will have a long term battle for survival after the opening shimmer wears off. GL

https://www.facebook.com/IndianapolisPokerGames

^ This is the correct answer. They update frequently and are quite accurate.

It's been a month .. anything better. TBH I've not looked at Bravo to see what been going on.

From Bravo HI will start a $25K BBJ, Bounty Board and some $100 HH on March 28th. The use of the word 'Legendary' is a Horseshoe thing for sure. GL

I went to Horseshoe Indy on a Friday night. The room is nice and new. The seats were comfortable. The dealers were ok, probably still learning, but I've seen a lot worse (no doubt the Omaha players probably have a different take on this assessment). There was a lot of traffic in the room. Some PLO tables running and some 2-5, 5-10NL. The poker play in general didn't seem all that good, unfortunately neither did mine.

Made a 3 hour drive yesterday to check out the new room. Got there around 3 pm - 8 or 9 1-3 games going a 2-5 and a 1-2 plo - got seated at 1-3 in about 15 minutes and played for about an hour before being called to a new 1-2 plo. Very enjoyable experience. Room is off to the side behind a large bar area and away from most slots and the table games. Guys at the podium were well organized and kept the lists moving. The dealers all did a good job. Recommend but given the drive it is unlikely that I will be back anytime soon.

Has any limit HE game ran at all at this Casino yet?

Hi Folks, I am planning a trip from Toronto to Saint Louis. My usual route is to go through Ann Arbor and then south to Fort Wayne..Indianapolis..St Louis. Are there any legit poker rooms near Fort Wayne Indiana?

There used to be a very large charity room in FW where the poker was legit, but the paperwork in the back may not have been. I don't think anyone has picked up the ball since then. I have the damndest time trying to find charity poker in IN via a state government listing, but there's usually a local Facebook page .. if you can find that.

If you want to DM (or just tag) @lightnin_ on Twitter he is my Fort Wayne connection.

IMO you should plan to play at FireKeepers casino at I-94 and I-69, but that's not a direct route from Detroit or Port Huron into IN via Ann Arbor. If you wanted to reroute to 57 or 55 in IL then you can go across I-94 pretty much the whole way.

You should not be disappointed at FKeepers (1/3, 2/5 MS NL, PLO, 200k BBJ, Royal Bonus, tournaments) .. and if you still wanted to take I69 into Indy then that's available as it's only 2-3 exits from the casino.

There's always MGM in Detroit or Hollywood in Toledo as well. Not sure what your driving or how long you're willing to take, budget, et .. have fun. GL

I'm visiting family just north of Indy for a couple weeks, does this place have consistent PLO action outside of Fri/Sat? I'm looking for some place to play during the week.

If you review this thread there is information about a Facebook page regarding the charity poker scene in Indy. From what I remember it's mainly along the northern parts of 465, so it will be closer to you. Definitely some deep NL being played, but you will have to research how much PLO is played.

Missed my chance to play here last week as my schedule changed at the last minute coming back from TN .. too bad for me!

If you go to the Horseshoe Indy thread and then DM the one particular poster who did a review of the casino he sounds like he has a pulse of Indy poker and may be able to give you better details on the charity games. GL


PS edit .. I don't know how active they are .. but Blueprint Poker JM is the OP of the Horseshoe Indy review thread and IMO would be able to help you navigate poker in Marion County.

Knights of Columbus on 71st and Keystone used to have consistent 5/5 PLO on Mondays and Wednesdays. According to the facebook link above, that game is still going, and according to my buddy who lives up there, PLO is still big in Indy, so that game should suit you fine.

Hey all, just moved from out of state and curious to know more about these charity games from that facebook link, especially the cash games. I always stayed away from home games due to not knowing how legit the dealing, security, etc would be, but these games seem more established. Has anyone had any concerns about those?

Also does anyone know how the rake works for the charity cash games?

No concern. Many have been running for years and years and have off duty officers acting as security. They have hired dealers.

Rake that I've seen is similar to Horseshoe casnio down in Shelbyville. 10% up to 6, 1 & 1 for various promotions.
They have flush race and high hands and various things.

Thanks appreciate the info!

Indy is a great place to be .. never heard any negative comments .. and you have other poker options within 2-3 hours in pretty much every direction.

Charity poker is mainly along the 465 northern sections with the Horseshoe sitting SE.

Loved my time living on the west side .. GL

Looking at spending some time in Indy. Curious about action at the horseshoe. I'm an NL player, mostly 1/2 and 2/5. How many tables are there to choose from? Wondering about the player rewards as well, here in New Hampshire we have none.

I've not really tracked Indy lately, but it seems whenever I do they have 'a few' NL tables during the week and at least double that on weekends with some PLO mixed in there.

$1/hour comp .. Cesar Rewards Programs in effect.
Looks like PLO is taking a drop and eligible for HH Promos if a hand is made on the Flop
9am - 4am weekly, 24 hour weekends if games are running


At least when this room first opened there were Players coming in from 'all over' to take advantage of a very soft Indy low stakes Player Pool. There's been some talk of a weak staff at times, but that's basically all rooms.


Indy has LOTS of Charity games along the 465 northern 'loop'. You may want to scroll back in this thread to read about them. Very deep, very splashy 2/5 NL games on various days of the week at various locations. Do some research on these and you may find a better game than at the casino during the week. I believe there may be a Facebook page for Indy Charity Poker

The Bravo App will give you exact information about the casino room and their phone number to attempt to get more specific information.

It is disappointing that more information doesn't show up here .. but with group texts and other social media avenues the Indy crowd doesn't have a high prensene here. GL