More than likely, yes... That's why they hit it more often. Maybe it just seemed as if it was being hit more in limit. Maybe it was a weird run of variance combined with the insatiable affinity for people wanting to play ATC....

I'd like to see the numbers personally on 1/2NL v. 3/6LHE on HPR.... You also have to factor in that every other NL table has one or two guys who WSOP Tank for a $50 river bet into a $200 pot..... That is -HPR....

LOL, one question, if it as you say, why did the limit BBJ grow faster and be hit less often than the NL BBJ?

just needed to scroll a few posts up to see some discussion on it. a very dumb move. garland is the only guy who wants this game basically. this place doesn't need 3 levels for plo. the 1/2 with $5 and $10 straddles and then the 2/5 with $10/$20 straddles is all it needs

some floors will take you off in 30 mins unless you tell them you won't be there for a while then they will give you an hourish.

FFS. I called and talked to some people at the room and can't get an answer on what actually goes to the prizepool for Denny Crum Events

I wanted to know how much of the BI goes to the house, they just kept repeated that the $20 add on goes to the house, HSI withholds 1350 (which is for the 2 seats given away obviously not for the house which the guy thought it was), and 10% goes to charity.

This is a big deal to know IMO. Does anyone know what % of prizepool is withheld, or if the numbered event BI's should be broken down like 220=200 to prize pool, 20 to house. 250=????? 150=?? 675=??

If it's 20 to the house for the 220, then with charity and everything, you are paying the house an extra equal to 1/3 of what goes to the prize pool.




Edit: They also only have 145k prizepool guaranteed, which if you adjust for the seats being withheld is actually 134.2k guaranteed. Neither number is the "over 150k guaranteed" they advertise, unless you choose to include the wsop seat or other "free" seats... Typical HSI. This is why I have been going elsewhere to play.

tourneys aren't that great at horseshoe but they aren't great anywhere anymore really. so much juice. these denny crum events are virtually unplayable. assume its a standard tourney so a $220 is probably $190+30. now take 3% out of prizepool for dealers/staff and take another 10% out of prizepool. oh yeah $20 addon to dealers as well. so something like $167+ $73. i think i did that right, whatever it is, it is disgusting.

Yeah, that is what I'm trying to figure out. I thought they usually listed when they withheld a percent for dealers/staff. They used to list things as BI+registration fee, but when they don't it is so annoying. I might be better off just asking the cage what the registration fee is.

Wow, never looked at it like that. Insane, not hat I'm going to play the Denny Crum events. But the normal weekly schedule still has HSI's hands all over the prize pool.

If you find out what % or any other relevant info let us know.

I don't think it really matters, honestly... If I wanted to get a 1/2 NL 6-Max table going with players ready to play, they'd spread it.

They can spread what the players want. If no one wants to play, it won't go. Who cares if they have 16 different levels?

Personally, I like playing PLO, but I'm way too underrolled to play a sicko $1k buy-in with people that have much deeper pockets than I. For me, it's about getting a game going that isn't deep and sick... maybe I'm just sick of grinding out the 1/2 NL....

Limit didnt grow faster. The no limit game grew to I believe about $140,000 and then got hit after the split up of two different pots and the limit pot was nowhere near that. I think the limit was at around $80,000 at that time.

The more I talk with the room about the DC tournament, the more I think the room is pretty uninformed.

First few tries over the weekend got no answers (see above post) and was told to call monday when the room manager would be there. I call today, and again no room manager and the person on the phone has no clue about what the registration fee is. They assured me the manager will be there tuesday afternoon, so I guess I will try once again then.

Kind of ***** if no one can figure out what the actual fees of entering a tournament are.

How many...

1/2 NL
2/5 NL

tables run on Thursday nights?

Also what are the buy-ins for each?

bunches of 1/2 nl, i don't know the min for sure but I think $40 max $300

1 2/5 nl will be running most likely... once again not positive on the min but I think $200 max $1000

I wish there were at least 2 2/5 tables but a 1k max sounds great. How is the 2/5 game on thursday nights?

If there is only 1 table i would assume its mostly regs?

It's because there sky high during the Crum classic, and they know if they tell you the rake, you will not play, so they are going to dodge this question as much as they can.

I'm not sure about the min/max for 2/5 but for 1/2 it is 100-300

I'll call within the next few days as well although I'm sure I'll get the same type of response. I was planning on going down for a few days for some events. But if the rake is close to the estimates I don't think that would be very +ev

what's the min/max for 2/5 no limit? thanks for you're help.

does anyone ever scroll up in this thread? max is $1000, min is probably $200. can call the poker room as well.

the 2/5 game is mostly regs i guess. hell about everyone in the room most of the time is a reg, doesn't mean they are good or anything.

here is the break down of fees divided by the amt going to prize pool:
220 - 37.931%
250 - 34.9325%
150 - 50.3095%
675 - 31.1196%

Not very good. Especially since this fails to take into account the money taken away for the 2 seats in each event.

Thank you for this, I will not be playing. This is crazy and I hope no one else plays in this dumb rake.

1-800-660-9744 is the horseshoe poker room phone #, hit 5 right away to speak to someone at the desk

Ditto. I will be going somewhere else for a 4-5 day trip to play instead. This insane rake with the already bad hotel rates and stinginess on food comps would make these tournaments absurdly expensive to play.

Right now running is 1 1 2 PLO which just started. 5 1 2 nl and 1 3 6 limit. Pretty dead.

Just got back from a 4 day trip at HSI, didn't play anywhere near as much poker as I wanted to, but there was a 10/20 O8, stud8, stud game running on sunday or monday I forget, but I would lean towards sunday. I wanted to play sooo bad but I would have been way under-rolled for that game, only brought 1k for 4 days , so dumb.

I never saw a plo game run, which was weird, but I saw Matt S on the interest list (who is Matt24 on 2+2?) and his was the only name every time I was at the poker room. I wanted to say hi, as I've never met anyone from 2+2 irl, and it would be nice to talk about the local games/dealers/ect. I was really happy with how the dealers were this time, I really only saw a few small mistakes. Good trip overall though.