You're half-right. High limit doesn't pay any promo money. Keeping track of hours is only for those paying the promo dollars.

Sorry I did not see this when you posted this earlier.

There is no fee or rake on the promotional dollar that is taken. 100% of it is issued back to the players in some sort of promotion.

They are swipped for registration but you are correct there is no comp or promo payouts or freeroll hours logged for tournaments.

For those of you who did not see, we had 166 people in the Sunday noon $200 tournament. First place was just over $7100 plus the $1500 seat.

The promo dollar deal is not too bad as there is no "rake"

Bad beat jackpot would likely have an administration fee

No it would not.

I'm sure Harraha's is keeping the interest they are making off of these one dollar drops. This money is deposited into an account somewhere, and I'd wager that account is an interest bearing account.... how much is that, good question....

won the tourney today holla

really lookin forward to the $1500 tourney

well done!

congrads

congrats on the win.....i went out about 30th or so.

the tourny had a decent turnout (129) with lots of bad players, and the $1500 dollar seat add-on is a nice bonus....but

and maybe it was just my table, but once the antes kicked in, the rate/amount of hands per level was attrocious. add in the clueless players and the constant dealer changes, and play almost ground to a halt. i recall one level where we were 12 minutes in and had played 5 hands. there were several occasions where we had made change amongst ourselves for the antes, and the dealers would look at the chips like it was pile of dog poop that they were afraid to touch. example: ante 75, three of us have put in two blacks and one green,(made change) dealer looks completely confused. on the dealer changes, they sign the table card, screw around with the cards or the shuffler, collect antes make change, remind the blinds to post, then start dealing. all the while tick tock, tick tock, goes the clock. at another point the blind level had changed for almost 4 minutes before an announcement was made by the staff. i saw a dealer tell a floor about this and all he did was shrug his shoulders, and then went and made the announcement.

i know it is only a $110 dollar tournament, but it could be run much better imo.

Well done! No better feeling than a live tourny victory, no matter what the buy-in.

when a dealer make an error they should improve on it but some of the stuff they have to do (like what you stated above) and us player do whin about alot. It's mostly the tour player that kill all the time calling or folding a hand.
I feel like C Brown, good griffe.

Lot's of truth here: After six months of OTJ training, there are still too many dealers who are clueless, and who mar the overall quality of the dealing staff, and after six months of OTJ, this is a problem that should be addressed.

As much as I complain about the Shoe, I love playing there, and consider it a good room over all, far superior to anything else in this area. But I can also say in all honesty, that in no other room have I ever played fewer hands per hour. (J, notice the bold print here)?

I assume the dealers main objective is to rake money for the house, and the still-clueless ones are doing a lousy job of doing so. How can they make money for the house, when they're (1) giving reports on how they did at Majestic last night, (2) staring into space when a player is unaware that it's their turn to act, (3) spending their entire down fixated on the box, and wondering whether it's $2 off or not, (4) burning and turning prematurely because they can't see much reason to pay attention to what they're doing, (5) celebrating and announcing to the world that it's "their Friday," and they will be off in 3 hrs and 12 minutes, (6) concentrating more on being "cool" than on getting hands out, and a whole lot of other bullchit that space doesn't allow here.

Leniency is fine; tolerance is kind, but the first thing on my mind, when I run the show, would be to advise a list of 7-10 dealers to shape up, or ship the *** out! I could make up that list in less than a minute. So could you, and the names would be the same. Is management the last to know??

[QUOTE=jacksquat;8848142] Congrats to you too. Nothing like finishing 30th or so in a live tournament, no matter what the buy-in (I'm being serious here; I don't play as well as Cosines).

I asked this before and I don't know if it ever got answered.

How much of the tournament entry fee in the $200 and $500 weekend tournaments does the casino take? I believe the $100 tournaments are an $80/$20 split.

I know there are some dealers that are better than others. In a perfect world they would all be great. We can't afford to let anyone go right now because we can not hire anyone else.

I would love to just sit at a table for 12 hours and make every dealer better. But when I watch them they seem to pay more attention, SO I try to do it (or have the supervisors do it) as much as possible.

I would love that when you or anyone else hears or sees anyone of the things you mentioned happen, to go to one of the supervisors or myself and tell me right away. They all have been told numerous times to NOT do what you have listed, but if you guys hear it please let us know. They won't get in trouble (which is why most don't say something because they don't want them getting in trouble, unless it is something major or out of line) but more of an earful and explaining to them not to do it again. If they continue to do something they were told not to then I go from there.

175+25
450+50

thanks

Congratulations Nate! Good luck with the big tournament

That is a gross exaggeration. If you are not getting as many hands per hour, as you believe you should get, it is probably due the numerous things "new / clueless" PLAYERS do, to hold up the game, including some who talk incessantly to every dealer, and believe they are entitled to know the dealer's life history.

"Clueless" dealers? You have players in that room, holding up games, who have zero perception of the term "hands per hour", and some who know and DON'T CARE, because they are in the joint, just for a little fun "outing". Some players bring the game to a complete halt, talking to the cocktail waitress, making inquiries of the dealer about tournaments, running back to the table from sniffing on a cancer stick, "Deal me in...". Then, the cards have to be backed up....."Did you look"......etc. etc. etc.

I want to go back to a topic from a week or so ago, because it's really getting out of hand. More dealers at 1/2NL and 2/5NL are commenting on the hands, how they would play them, commenting on the board, etc. This has happened repeatedly in my last couple of sessions. Monday night, dealers did this for the first five downs I was at a table. Jeremy said:

Jeremy, I really like most of the dealers personally, but it's one thing to be friendly and another to actually comment on the hands! I DO mind their talking if it interferes with the game and the one player to a hand rule, or talking after a hand about how they would have played it. Not cool.

There are some clueless dealers there...
Most of them are 100% legit, great dealers. But I can point you to a few that are just consistently ridiculously bad...

Sounds reasonable to me, and you're right; when you or another supervisor is hovering about, dealer performance improves.

What I suggest to you then, is to have cardboard cutout images of the various floor personel placed behind each dealer position. The dealers I'm referring to here would be fooled by this, we would get more hands dealt, the house would get more rake, the dealers would have more money to spend in 3hr, 12 minutes when their weekend begins, and we would all live happily ever after.

Now wasn't that easy. You have any other problems J, you just let me know. You're welcome.

With the exception of my complaints being a gross exaggeration, everything you say here is true; right on the mark. However, it's been my observation that good dealers know how to curtail a lot of this activity that you're talking about, while the bad dealers sit there staring into space and hoping their next table is better than this one.

The common sins amongst the worst deales in the room are those of inaction, rather than action. In some cases, it's because they just don't know how to handle these situations, and in other cases it's because they just don't care.

No doubt, many players are guilty of slowing up the game, but it is not their responibility to run the game and keep it moving. That responsibility would fall on the dealers, who are hired to do exactly that.

ty everyone

I grind turbo sng's and I think that gave me a nice edge at the final two and final table when the stack sizes compared to blinds were very small. Oh and I also ran like god.

It was pretty funny a lot of people thought I was terrible because I called a guys shove with T4 off while getting better than 2:1 lol