Will be at Hammond starting Monday the 15th. Down to play some 50-100 mix every day that I’m not still in a tournament. Lmk time and days if anyone setting up games is able to. Thanks.

Trying to get a 30-60 or 50-100 mix going later if anyway is interested. Have a list going.

Nice little visit on Sunday. Busted Seniors about 20 from the money and then promptly better than min-cashed via a short 2-5 stint and 2 hours of 1-2 PLO. I'm not sure why I even bother with tournaments, but I did feel pretty good during Sunday's one .. just need to play more I guess.

WATCH the Dealers during PLO. There was a spot where there was about 65 in the pot and a Player slid out 150 (stack plus 2 greens on top) from the BB on the Flop. The Dealer was actually counting it down and other Players were getting ready to fold. Yes, that is how weak the 1-2 play is at times here ... Players not spotting/knowing that this was not a legal play. GL

Not one post about the circuit

I played about 25 hours - all weekends - and thought games were better than normal. Lots of new faces but nothing too notable.

Wait lists weren’t impacted at all IMO.

First time at Hammond for the circuit. Thought it was a good stop with the exception of one thing...confusion among the TDs. On the Hammond website, it says that all events are re entry unless otherwise stated on the structure sheets. Not a single structure sheet stated that an event was freezeout. When I arrived for the horse tournament, was told that it was a freezeout tournament. While very irritated by this because this was never stated online, and in fact, I called the poker room before arriving in Hammond and was told everything was re entry. Furthermore, was told during the horse tournament that O8 would be re entry by the TD running the horse tournament. Show up Thursday for O8, and a different TD says that O8 is also freezeout. While I prefer re entry, I am fine with whatever structure they want, as long as things are clearly posted and consistent with different TDs. Making it up as they go, and being told different things by different people is not acceptable. I will not return to Hammond because of this.

The WSOPC tournaments are run by the WSOP not by Horseshoe Hammond.

If I’m not mistaken, multiple TDs who I spoke to were local to Hammond. I know that many of them travel with the circuit, but I believe multiple ones were local to Hammond. Also, structure sheets are created by local TD, and approved by WSOP. The structure sheet issue is only a Hammond issue. I have not experienced this at any other stop.

Also was told by the Hammond poker room that all events were re entry

I see a few who were locals, but if you travel the circuit , probably you are right.

Not claiming right or wrong here, but two cents ...
1) I was also told by 'poker room' that 'most' tournaments would be re-entry, but the poker room is downstairs and the tournaments were upstairs. One would hope that everyone is briefed properly. And to have 'most' in the mix certainly can't help.

2) Confusion 'up stairs' day to day is not a good look and WSOPc and Horseshoe need to figure out how to shore up the leaks. My impression is that the WSOPc schedule of events is pretty cookie cutter to keep continuity from site to site for it's regulars and to keep the integrity of the POY race.

3) Can't imagine that structures change from venue to venue either. It could be as simple as exchanging the site logo when 'creating' a PDF structure sheet provided by WSOPc.

There were issues at Poto when they got rolling last year as well, but I would expect more from Horseshoe-Hammond since they have hosted before and also have run their CPC for years.

Sorry you had a rough time, and I'm certainly not trying to defend, but if you play poker you've run across 'issues' plenty of times before. I'm probably a bit more forgiving than most, but if the cash action is good and the tournament fields are soft I'm not letting Floors or facilities keep me off the felt. GL

What's been with the excessive space cadets and excessive tanking in cash games lately?

People think they’re on TV anytime they have a decision to make...tank for no reason at all other than they want everyone to know they’re thinking REALLYYY HARD about their decision

I witnessed a rather controversial ruling at a 2/5 table. I’m on the button in a hand with 2 other players. Flop is 5c6c7h. I fold but Player A and Player B both get it in on flop (~$750 pot). Turn is Jc, River is 9c. Player B he flops a straight 48 off with no clubs. Player A looks disgusted said he had (57) two pairs and tables it.

Pot gets pushed to Player B. Dealer quickly flips and collects cards. I say wait, Player A had a club for the flush. Player A is silent but in deep thought whether he had a club. Dealer looks confused and disagrees, and tries to recover the cards but isn’t able to reproduce board and doesn’t take much time in trying. The other players at the table weren’t paying attention. Dealer calls floor for a decision/review. Floor says they won’t be able to assist in reviewing the hand because the cards have already been placed in shuffler. Player A is irate and asks the other floor people. Player B is suddenly tired, racks up and walks out of the poker room. Some time later, another floor person comes and says cameras are 40 feet high and isn’t able discern the suits of the cards.

Cameras are NOT able to tell suits when one person is guaranteed to be pissed over ~$1k but they CAN tell the suits for the stupid promo for the board in the corner???

Sounds legit...

DAFS, how certain are you that the guy had a club?

Terrible by dealers and even worse from floor...

I’m certain he had a club. The only sliver of doubt would be whether the turn was a Js or Jc

Which floor was it?

Couple of interesting spots to talk about in the 2/5 spot ...

1) The easy answer is that the initial Floor is correct. Once the next hand starts, which is typically when the button on the shuffler is pushed, the previous hand is over and no 'rulings' can change the initial result. The obvious 'open door' here is when did either Player A or the Dealer actually call the Floor.

2) The Dealer should not have moved on from this discussion once OP presented it ... again, depending on when Player A got involved. If OP brought up this point and, as stated by OP, the Dealer took the time to determine that the cards were unidentifiable then Dealer should've called the Floor over without any further movement of the cards.

3) 40 feet? Can't tell suits? But they can tell when a Player/Dealer palms a single chip off of somebody's stack or out of a pot? Do we really need any discussion on that?

Tough spot for Player A ... could be a little CYA on the Dealer's part by not wanting to get in trouble for messing up a Showdown. Poor secondary excuses by Floors as well.

I've seen this spot at Motor City Casino not too far away from Hammond. They pulled the chips off the table and went to the tape and then properly awarded the pot based on the tape .. well done IMO. BUT in this case the next hand had not officially started.

I've also seen/read about this spot on this site.
A) If Player B cashes out and leaves there is very little recourse, even when Player B returns 'later'. Security/Surveillance would have a limited ability to ask the Player to remain in the casino/room.

B) Due to the next hand starting Floor's have very little 'power' other than to suggest to Player B that he give up the chips to Player A or be asked to leave for the day/week/month. GL

The first floor persons name starts with a J. 2nd one starts with M

off topic a tad.. did this room recently get a new floor guy that goes by Bill? Word in my room was he was leaving here to work up at the Shoe.

Why do they have some much of these situations happening way too often?

IMO from afar ... high Dealer turnover, lack of clear and consistent communication from Managers to Floors from shift to shift as to how to handle similar spots which leads to Dealer confusion when their shifts intermingle with Floor shifts.

I had one PLO Dealer who most certainly shouldn't have been in our rotation. I think he was a fine person, just not ready for prime time. GL

Reason for high turnover rate is multiple reasons one is the room is a free for all let players get away with way too much and former dealers feel like no sense of being back up and have no voice in any say so and 2nd reason is nobody likes the unicorn and have heard nothing but bad things about him and how he runs the room

Btw I was playing at that table and the guy did have a flush

Happy to announce Raymomd tied the record of times trying to give Omaha players 2 cards in a down, tying former dealers Glenn and Dwayne by doing it 3 times..

Lmao